What did Jesus say about HIMSELF?

[InspiredByGod]

Again, elaboration is in order. You said: "Jesus shows God as someone else."

Jesus was God incarnate--Jesus said "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father. He said He was the way, the TRUTH and the life."

“You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth.
Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”--John 18:37

Jesus always spoke TRUTH--He revealed God to humanity by coming in the flesh. He was GOD. It would be impossible for Him to portray God as you said "as someone else."

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It has all been explained, using JESUS' words.
You choose NOT to listen.

 

[Magenta]

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T'will be getting to that!

If you keep denying that Jesus is God, you may not.

Simply because denying the Deity of Jesus Christ is the
number one theological ban-worthy offense on this site.

 

[InspiredByGod]

Jesus has been given the power~

John 17:2- since thou hast given him power over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom thou hast given him ...

 

[InspiredByGod]

John 17:5- and now, Father, glorify thou me in thy own presence with the glory which I had with thee before the world was made.

Again he testifies to his previous life!

 

[Gardenias]

John 13:3- Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he had come from God and was going to God...

No mention of a 'Holy GHOST", no mention of a 'Trinity' he was going back to...

Are you the former peachyking?
Your aggorance and attitude show the same characteristics.
If you are once banned, YOU can be banned again.

You speak like a student of Islam or some other cult in believing Jesus as an angel.

Inspired by God.....I think not!
Its off to the other box with you.

 

[Laura798]

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It has all been explained, using JESUS' words.
You choose NOT to listen.

Well, I think if you would not post in Morris Code, it might make it easier to understand your position.

 

[InspiredByGod]

If you keep denying that Jesus is God, you may not.

Simply because denying the Deity of Jesus Christ is the
number one theological ban-worthy offense on this site.

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So, I simply refer to the words of Christ himself, and I am "ban-worthy"?
I didn't know this or I wouldn't have joined this site!
A site that doesn't listen to the words of our... MY King, is NOT Christian in any sense of the word!

John 17:11- And now I am no more in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to thee. Holy Father, keep them in thy name, which thou hast given me, that they may be one, even as we are one.

Link that to "I and the Father are one."

 

[Mofastus]

OOOO! Buckshot!
I suppose that you won't take one at a time?

I gave you the respect of my time freely to attempt to share with you with a good hope for you in your faith, there are 31,103 verses, and the promised teaching of the holy Spirit when you're of full age in your faith. and I'm thinking now you're wondering why I stated 31,103 verses, which you didn't have a clue of what I wrote to begin with (I don't have a cannon that size). Nor a shotgun. You got me! I should've known better.

2 Timothy 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.


James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

James 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

James 1:7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

 

[Magenta]

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So, I simply refer to the words of Christ himself, and I am "ban-worthy"?
I didn't know this or I wouldn't have joined this site!
A site that doesn't listen to the words of our... MY King, is NOT Christian in any sense of the word!

John 17:11- And now I am no more in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to thee. Holy Father, keep them in thy name, which thou hast given me, that they may be one, even as we are one.

Link that to "I and the Father are one."

Hmmm, that is not what I said at all.

But at least now you know.

If you are not denying the Deity of Jesus Christ, you have no reason to falter in your purpose.

Although ascribing to those who affirm His Deity that we do not listen to Him?

Overkill, to say the least. And false.

PS~ do you call yourself a human being?

 

[DavidTree]

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So, I simply refer to the words of Christ himself, and I am "ban-worthy"?
I didn't know this or I wouldn't have joined this site!
A site that doesn't listen to the words of our... MY King, is NOT Christian in any sense of the word!

John 17:11- And now I am no more in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to thee. Holy Father, keep them in thy name, which thou hast given me, that they may be one, even as we are one.

Link that to "I and the Father are one."

Here is something that the Lord said way before He came to earth: "Let us make man in Our Image according to Our Likeness."

 

[InspiredByGod]

Are you the former peachyking?
Your aggorance and attitude show the same characteristics.
If you are once banned, YOU can be banned again.

You speak like a student of Islam or some other cult in believing Jesus as an angel.

Inspired by God.....I think not!
Its off to the other box with you.

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I have no connection.
I have been banned on every 'Christian' site so far for making known what Jesus said HIMSELF!
Let's see if that will be the case here!

John 17:20- I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word,
21- that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that Thou hast sent me.

Again!

 

[DavidTree]

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False premise.

Not at all. The Foundation of Scripture is Elohim Father Elohim Son Elohim Holy Spirit

 

[InspiredByGod]

John 17: 26- I made known to them thy name, and I will make it known, that the love with which thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

Rabbi Tarfon or Tarphon was a member of the third generation of the Mishnah sages, who lived in the period between
the destruction of the Second Temple (70 CE) and the fall of Betar (135 CE).
A passage recorded in the Hebrew Tosefta, Shabbat 13:5, quoting Tarfon referring to the early Christian writings~

Shabbat 13:5:The books of the Evangelists and the books of the minim they do not save from a fire [on the Sabbath].
They are allowed to burn up where they are, they and [even] the references to the Divine Name that are in them.

There is debate as to whether Tarfon's reference to the minim is to be taken as a reference to heretical Jews in general,
or to a particular group of them, for example Jewish gnostics or Jewish Christians according to preferred interpretations
of gilyonim and minim.

Note: The first Christians WERE Jews...
- http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10846-min

https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-say-about-himself.202424/page-7#post-4699954

 

[DavidTree]

John 17: 26- I made known to them thy name, and I will make it known, that the love with which thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

Rabbi Tarfon or Tarphon was a member of the third generation of the Mishnah sages, who lived in the period between
the destruction of the Second Temple (70 CE) and the fall of Betar (135 CE).
A passage recorded in the Hebrew Tosefta, Shabbat 13:5, quoting Tarfon referring to the early Christian writings~

Shabbat 13:5:The books of the Evangelists and the books of the minim they do not save from a fire [on the Sabbath].
They are allowed to burn up where they are, they and [even] the references to the Divine Name that are in them.

There is debate as to whether Tarfon's reference to the minim is to be taken as a reference to heretical Jews in general,
or to a particular group of them, for example Jewish gnostics or Jewish Christians according to preferred interpretations
of gilyonim and minim.

Note: The first Christians WERE Jews...
- http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10846-min

https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-say-about-himself.202424/page-7#post-4699954

The first Christians were Jews - AMEN

The first Christians were Adam and Eve who walked with Christ in the Garden.

But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, 7nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” 8That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. 9For this is the word of promise: “At this time I will come and Sarah shall have a son.”

 

[InspiredByGod]

Jesus came out and SAID he had a God~

John 20:17- Jesus said to her, “Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.” 18- Mary Mag′dalene went and said to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord”; and she told them that he had said these things to her.

Still think Thomas was referring to Christ as the God who SENT him?

 

[ResidentAlien]

58- Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
Speaking e-bonics ?
It SHOULD read~

58- Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I existed.”

Or else Jesus 'put a Foot in his Mouth'! ROYALLY.

You're wrong here bro. The Greek εἰμί (eimi) is in the present tense. You could say "I exist" but not "I existed."

But it's clear you're not that interested in truth but only in hearing yourself talk.

 

[InspiredByGod]

John 20:24- Now Thomas, one of the twelve, called the Twin, was not with them when Jesus came.
25- So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord.” But he said to them, “Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails, and place my finger in the mark of the nails, and place my hand in his side, I will not believe.”
26- Eight days later, his disciples were again in the house, and Thomas was with them. The doors were shut, but Jesus came and stood among them, and said, “Peace be with you.”
27- Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side; do not be faithless, but believing.”
28- Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
29- Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe.”

My Lord (which he was), and my God (who had resurrected him).

 

[InspiredByGod]

You're wrong here bro. The Greek εἰμί (eimi) is in the present tense. You could say "I exist" but not "I existed."

But it's clear you're not that interested in truth but only in hearing yourself talk.

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I am sorry that so many have that opinion. "Before Abraham I exist!" That makes as little sense as that Hebrew name God used only one time...

 

[DavidTree]

Jesus came out and SAID he had a God~

John 20:17- Jesus said to her, “Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.” 18- Mary Mag′dalene went and said to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord”; and she told them that he had said these things to her.

Still think Thomas was referring to Christ as the God who SENT him?

Yes, i do. Remember that once the LORD of Isaiah 43 came and took on human flesh - HE emptied Himself - Hebrews ch1 Php 2:7

When HE was on earth HE was fulfilling His Words and bringing to pass His Salvation as the SERVANT.

As the SERVANT, HE would be addressing the Father as His Father and His God.

 

[InspiredByGod]

But at least this is the ONLY site to let me finish the words of Christ in the Book of John!!!

Now I can be banned; or do you want to discuss the things said about him?