What is Hebrews 10:26 about? Can wilful sin be forgiven?
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Yes I agree
but who does god give eternal
Life to. Who did God say would never die? Did Jesus mean it. Or was he just saying it
I departed the faith for 5 years as a prodigal sin my
Life became so hellish I was ready to
Commit suicide I committed many sins while I was gone sexual sinned drunkenness. All kinds of things
God did what he promised he left the flock came and found me and led me back
I never stopped being the son. We have to be careful trampling on Gods promises
but who does god give eternal
Life to. Who did God say would never die? Did Jesus mean it. Or was he just saying it
I departed the faith for 5 years as a prodigal sin my
Life became so hellish I was ready to
Commit suicide I committed many sins while I was gone sexual sinned drunkenness. All kinds of things
God did what he promised he left the flock came and found me and led me back
I never stopped being the son. We have to be careful trampling on Gods promises
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Hebrews Made it clear we are a specific group
Hebrews 10:39 (NKJV): 39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.
We are not then.
Hebrew is about the law and gods people trying to return to the law. Sinning willfully is returning to that which can not save. Not personal sin of breaking a command
Hebrews 10:39 (NKJV): 39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.
We are not then.
Hebrew is about the law and gods people trying to return to the law. Sinning willfully is returning to that which can not save. Not personal sin of breaking a command
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I am not going to drop it
I could care less if your against OSAS we are discussing this word
you said willfulnsin can cause us to lose salvation
so I ask do you sin willfully. It by accident
don’t run from the question because your afraid to answer just answer
we are talking the word not OSAS or NOSAS
that’s why people can not have conversations because they want to put everyone in groups and are incapable of sincere conversating
Well that guys is OSAS so it’s a waste of time
the waste of time is assuming and refusing to have an open conversation
I could care less if your against OSAS we are discussing this word
you said willfulnsin can cause us to lose salvation
so I ask do you sin willfully. It by accident
don’t run from the question because your afraid to answer just answer
we are talking the word not OSAS or NOSAS
that’s why people can not have conversations because they want to put everyone in groups and are incapable of sincere conversating
Well that guys is OSAS so it’s a waste of time
the waste of time is assuming and refusing to have an open conversation
I like what you are saying here in ways. and yet....
from another thread:
https://christianchat.com/threads/i...re-than-our-beliefs-alone.202243/post-4696205
"Verse 18. - But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Growth is necessary for steadfastness; we cannot persevere unless we continually advance in faith (comp. 1 Peter 1:5-7; 1 Peter 2:2)."
i don't think it is just one wilful sin. if someone gets to the point where they harden their heart and fall away or deny the sacrifice of Jesus, then i believe that there is not forgiveness for this. if any is willing to repent, then they haven't hardended their heart completely and they of course can come back if they truly repent. hebrews 3 says the Holy Spirit says to not harden your hearts
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@ameizhere i think of David
Here is a man at home thinking of himself and not out on the field with his troops as he should have been
In his fleshly thinking he sees a woman who is beautiful taking a bath
He sends for her and ends up sleeping with her. Now some say this could be rape because no one disobeys the king but we are not told she resists
either way we know she is married so David has willfully committed a few sins here. The biggest being a sultry. Which according the law demanded David be stoned
but it does not stop here he finds out she gets pregnant. So David tried his best to get her husband to go against his morals and when he refuses he murders him. Another willful sin
What we see here is a man who is Gods child Commit the worse sins we can think of. Yet remember what God said many years earlier? David is a man after
My own heart. god said this KNOWING David would commit these sins many years in the future
David was punished for these sins. Although God did not enforce stoning like the law required
Jesus also bears the title sin of David even though David commuted this evil sins willfully and knowingly
This is how I believe avid treats all his children. He loves them. He chastens them (David did not go Unpunished ) and he completely saves them
David had eternal life. God did not remove that from him because Jesus would pay for hat sin like he paid for ours
Hebrews is not talking about that kind of sin it can’t be or god contradicts himself
Here is a man at home thinking of himself and not out on the field with his troops as he should have been
In his fleshly thinking he sees a woman who is beautiful taking a bath
He sends for her and ends up sleeping with her. Now some say this could be rape because no one disobeys the king but we are not told she resists
either way we know she is married so David has willfully committed a few sins here. The biggest being a sultry. Which according the law demanded David be stoned
but it does not stop here he finds out she gets pregnant. So David tried his best to get her husband to go against his morals and when he refuses he murders him. Another willful sin
What we see here is a man who is Gods child Commit the worse sins we can think of. Yet remember what God said many years earlier? David is a man after
My own heart. god said this KNOWING David would commit these sins many years in the future
David was punished for these sins. Although God did not enforce stoning like the law required
Jesus also bears the title sin of David even though David commuted this evil sins willfully and knowingly
This is how I believe avid treats all his children. He loves them. He chastens them (David did not go Unpunished ) and he completely saves them
David had eternal life. God did not remove that from him because Jesus would pay for hat sin like he paid for ours
Hebrews is not talking about that kind of sin it can’t be or god contradicts himself
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Your right. The sin of unbelief will
Never be forgiven
commuting a willful personal sin is nit blasphemy if the spirit if it was all of us would die
They never accepted Christ. Proven by the fact they later denied him
their faith was in the law. Not in Jesus. Like a dog they returned to there
Vomit. Because they were never born again in the first Place their faith had always been in the law and sacrifices not in Christ. And since they never truly experienced christ like all impostors they walk away as deeper unbelievers. That’s why they can nit be renewed to repentance. Because any chance they had if true repentance passed their hearts were truly hardened beyond repair now
when you taste something then determine it is not what you like. You will Never try it again
Never be forgiven
commuting a willful personal sin is nit blasphemy if the spirit if it was all of us would die
They never accepted Christ. Proven by the fact they later denied him
their faith was in the law. Not in Jesus. Like a dog they returned to there
Vomit. Because they were never born again in the first Place their faith had always been in the law and sacrifices not in Christ. And since they never truly experienced christ like all impostors they walk away as deeper unbelievers. That’s why they can nit be renewed to repentance. Because any chance they had if true repentance passed their hearts were truly hardened beyond repair now
when you taste something then determine it is not what you like. You will Never try it again
i agree with all you say but i just disagree that this means we are always saved. David chose to repent and God had mercy on Him. i backslid just one time and not habitually earlier this week for the first time in 5 months. i was devastated and God allowed me to feel sorrow and misery, i was weeping all day. however after that through fellowship He gave me hope that in His salvation it is possible for me to have mercy if i return to Him, which i did! 
and i thank Him that i did.
some people dont class david as saved before he sinned this way. not sure why - correct me anyone if i'm wrong but i think he was considered a righteous man? however, if he continued this way in sin, surely there would be no mercy
and i thank Him that i did.some people dont class david as saved before he sinned this way. not sure why - correct me anyone if i'm wrong but i think he was considered a righteous man? however, if he continued this way in sin, surely there would be no mercy