The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???
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...and yet the dead in Christ are raised before Jesus comes to earth in 1 thes 4
What baloney version do you read that has no meeting in the air???
Psssst... That is what 1 thes 4 SAYS.
HELLO?????
IT SAYS RIGHT THERE THAT THEY RESURRECT. WELL BEFORE HIS COMING AND MEET JESUS IN THE AIR.
BUT YOU AND OTHERS SAY NO.
THEY RESURRECT WAY WAY AFTER, IN REV 20 , AFTER ARMAGEDON.
HOW BUSTED DO YOU NEED TO GET??????
I JUST DESTROYED YOU DEAL AND YOU ARE OBLIVIOUS
I would deny it too.
Just pretend you never said the first resurrection is in rev 20.
Carry on.
God has already told everyone the exact time of the LORD's RETURN = Revelation 6:9-11
And when the Lamb opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony they had upheld. 10And they cried out in a loud voice, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You avenge our blood and judge those who dwell upon the earth?”
Then each of them was given a white robe and told to rest a little while longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers, were killed, just as they had been killed.
When this is fulfilled and the Father says to the Son - GO = It's Resurrection Time.
And when the Lamb opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony they had upheld. 10And they cried out in a loud voice, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You avenge our blood and judge those who dwell upon the earth?”
Then each of them was given a white robe and told to rest a little while longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers, were killed, just as they had been killed.
When this is fulfilled and the Father says to the Son - GO = It's Resurrection Time.
I never call people liars.
That is not conducive to debate
But since you go to that level of dishonesty
I will definately call you a liar.
You and i both know how bad you will be massacred once we unpack the rapture verses.
" like manner" alone is such a blatant witness against your deal.
You can not and will not debate it.
You RUN FROM EVER PRETRIB RAPTURE PowerPoint.
GO AHEAD...SHOW US " LIKE MANNER" IN YOUR SUPERIOR DOCTRINE.
YOU CAN NOT AND WILL NOT.
RE READ IT.
the martyrs are UNDER THE ALTAR
NOT IN THE GENERAL POPULATION
WE SEE THE INNUMERABLE NUMBER IN THE GENERAL POPULATION
But postrib rapture workbook overlooks about 20 of those game changers.
OK i game with that - i have provided the clear Scripture which says pre-trib is a lie
Now you have to bring forth from Scripture alone - no opinions or comments attached.
If you prove me a liar - you win me over to repentance and restoration to the Truth.
Will you accept the CHALLENGE to repent if you cannot PROVE by SCRIPTURE ALONE - pre-trib rapture BEFORE HIS COMING.
i am going to work and cannot respond now - those who know the error of pre-trib can speak while i am gone
Hi! About to make a point:
How did you know it was not true? your common sense?
God Bless
How did you know it was not true? your common sense?
God Bless
Oh, nuts! I must have missed them again! Could you just quote one of them, so I can see for myself that Jesus takes raptured beievers to heaven? Oh, please?
When do you think you will be getting to that? I can't wait to see what you have.
Rev 20 has a SETTING, Mr dodge.
That setting is AFTER armageddon.
It is AFTER the return.
You think some cunning dodge frees you to reframe Gods word.
Nobody here has done what you are asserting with misplacing chapters.
That is more of your mental dance protecting your doctrine.
Nowhere do you ever acknowledge setting..
It is RIDICULOUSLY missing in every "Point"( i have yet to see you make any point) that you "make".
You will not go there.
And sadly we both know you can't
more accurate........word should have been (great) deceptions.
Sorry about that, I knew the word...just entered the wrong one.
More ridiculous generalization.
Mr dodge.
Are you willing to address " like manner"
Are you willing to go there.?
So simple.
What an opportunity for you.
You can show me what it means.
What is " like manner" meaning in acts 1?
Re read it.
That is saying AFTER the martyrs number is fulfilled.
Not at that same moment.
So, nope. You got that wrong as well.
1) we dont know how long after their number is fulfilled
2) even if it is instant, the timing of the last martyr is unknown.
Non issue. Rabbit trail.
What we are seeing is ...the new age religion group...trying to change Go's word and intent of meaning (end time prophecy). It will only get worse.
You are right on ...........we must stick with God's word. There is no PC when it comes to the real Bible....1611 KJV.
Amen
Lol
Dear lord.
That is the point mr dodge.
The Lord is IN THE AIR.BEFORE THE RESURRECTION
HELLO??????
You just proved your. Rev 20 deal is impossible.
Do you really think those on thrones are the 1st resurrection????
THEY are exclusively killed by the ac.
So your boggus deal has left out all those dead in christ that have died for 2000 years.
To further debunk your deal 1 thes 4 says " we which are alive and remain meet them in the air"
Rev 20 first resurrection??????
I just destroyed that notion.
But dodge it mr dodge.
Pretend you have traction.
Yes.
A babe in christ with a bible can destroy false doctrine.
They change the subject and dodge. That tells you right there they are not even honest with themselves.
It is in saul alenski's book " rules for radicals"
It says in their book that in a debate you dodge and go after them. Take the debate outside any substance and try to discredit them or their message.
That book, in the preface, is dedicated to lucifer.
We see that here.
None of them will honestly debate.
All the substance is with the pretribbers. We OPENLY invite them to scripturally unpack our verses.
If you want a good laugh, watch the unbelievable dance they do with the 10 virgin parable.
It is hilarious what they do with the components.