Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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eternally-gratefull

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Great! I can NEVER be unsaved if I'm wrong. Wish I could say the same for OSASers.
You have to be saved first my friend.

Many people think they are saved and are not.

Who is your faith in. CHrist saving you. or you being good enough and not screwing up to save yourself?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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5 Liberals running possibly the most watched show of the year on Fox didn't surprise you?
Nothing suprises me anymore.

I stopped watching foxnews and all news awhile ago. Non of them can be trusted
 

Duckybill

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You're saying I'm not saved? Typical OSAS!

We who don't swallow OSAS are not saved?

How judgmental!
That’s why I try to say “the person“rather than the word “you”.The word “you”can be taken personally and be seen In the singular rather than the plural.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You're saying I'm not saved? Typical OSAS!
I never said that. Typical nosas. Make accusations based not on fact.

I said a person has to be saved first.. General terms

We who don't swallow OSAS are not saved?
Is your faith in God or self?

If its in God. then why do you think God will fail?

How judgmental!
Look in the mirror bro. You judged me..

I also did not judge, I just asked a question. the fact you could not answer and instead came at me. shows where the issue lies my friend.
 

shittim

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Yes, I recall that, make it prescription only for vitamins, they are as evil as Dr. Phony Fauci.
 
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God prophesied that the world will end up in the hands of the antichrist.

Do you believe Christians can stop that?
Some believe the Final Pieces have not been placed because the SAVED are Praying to DELAY it more than to Welcome it!!

IF, that is True, then WE FAILED in 1973 Roe VS Wade [Abortion], we failed with Madeline Albright suggested we REMOVE Prayer, the Pledge, and the 10 Commandments from Schools and Court Houses, we Failed by Allowing False Doctrines to infiltrate the Church, we Failed by thinking we knew better than God and Promoted Homosexuals as Pastors and Evangelists, We Failed when we SAW Seeker Friendly Churches BOOMING, and on OUR WATCH in the Past 50 Years, we Failed in Allowing Satan to control of the United States, the Final 2 Pieces of Puzzle.

BUT, had WE come together for Abortion in 1973 and Removal of Prayer/10 Commandments in 1980's LIKE the Church is NOW over Covid Vaccinations in 2021, we would not even be facing Covid At ALL in Our Lifetimes!!
 
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The FDA is ran by the drug companies. That's one reason they get life threatening drugs approved easily.

Are you saying there are [NO] needs for Approved Life Saving Drugs?

And let's still be Realistic here, even with this Second Batch killing People 30% More than the First Batch at a Rate of [Less Than] 1%...
...the Success Rate of those getting the Second Batch and Surviving with little to none side effects, is still at 97% Overall. So Theoretically Speaking here, 97% is rather GOOD in fighting a Lab Airbourne Created Synthetic Version Weapon.

The First Batch was 99.4% it was that GOOOOOOOOOOD!!
The Second Batch, not so Good, but at 97% against a WEAPON is still a pretty AWESOME Success Rate!!
 

PennEd

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WAYNE ROOT: What I Just Told New York Times About the Complete Failure & Disaster of the Covid Vaccine


I am a media reporter with The New York Times. My colleague and I are working on a story about false or misleading vaccine misinformation in the audio space…You have said on Facebook that the vaccine “doesn’t work” and is “a complete failure.” Do you have any comment?

Sure, I have a comment. Every word I say is based on science and facts.

The VAERS reporting system is the only present scientific way of measuring deaths and injuries from any vaccine – including the Covid-19 vaccine. It’s not my system. It’s not based on politics. It has nothing to do with conservative or liberal opinions.

I wanted to share my response to the New York Times…

It is a science-based medical reporting system provided by the government and
the CDC.

It is the only way of keeping track of the deaths, crippling injuries and adverse reactions from any vaccine. It has been used for many decades.

No one in the medical community, or media has EVER in history ignored, or disparaged the VAERS Report before. Until now.

Here are the VAERS numbers: Over 17,000 Americans are reported dead directly from this vaccine – mostly from strokes, heart attacks and blood clots. Over 800,000 are reported injured, many of them hospitalized (over 83,000); many with life-threatening illness (over 18,000); many others permanently disabled (over 26,000).

This information is all publicly available and provided by the CDC. This cannot be called “misleading” by anyone in the media. The very definition of “misleading” would be to either disparage VAERS, or ignore it, and not report it daily to your readers.

The amount of deaths and significant injuries reported at VAERS is now dramatically higher than all vaccines in the past 30+ years combined. This has happened in only ten months.

That’s a fact. Facts cannot be “misleading.”

Several times in America’s recent history, the medical community has suspended or cancelled a vaccine program over a small number of deaths. The first rule of medicine is “physician do no harm.” At any sign of harm, a vaccine should and must be questioned, and/or suspended.

Never before have we even imagined a vaccine with over 17,000 deaths and over 800,000 adverse reactions.

Yet, the official VAERS numbers have been blacked out from the mainstream media and social media – including your New York Times. Anytime something is not discussed, or debated, or disparaged as “misleading” because it is different than the official government narrative, I’d call that the very definition of “intolerance” at best, and tyranny at worst.

Even more facts and SCIENCE…

Studies are in from many countries, but in particular UK and Israel, report the vaccine…

A) Is in fact failing miserably- a huge majority of recent cases, hospitalizations and deaths are double vaxxed. FACT.

B) Cases are slightly higher in countries with higher vaccination rates, and slightly lower in countries with lower vaccination rates.

These are factual, credible, scientific studies from multiple countries.

So yes, I question this vaccine, and yes, I am seriously worried about the proven deaths and injuries directly from this vaccine in the short term (as seen on the VAERS reporting system), and I’m especially worried about the long-term effects of this vaccine.

If the NY Times believe anything I’ve said is “misleading,” then you clearly don’t understand the definition of SCIENCE. I’m quoting only government, CDC and scientific studies from multiple countries.

More importantly, the very definition of “science” is asking questions and debate.

To not ask questions, especially in the face of so many Americans sick with Covid who are double vaxxed, and so many dead or injured directly from the vaccine as reported by VAERS, would make someone either naive, gullible, blind, deaf or very dumb.

I’m proud that my time at Columbia University taught me to think critically, ask questions, never accept as fact what any government agency, or any authority figure says, and always be a fearless debater.

By the way, I urge the New York Times to set up a debate on this topic. I’ll be thrilled to debate any “expert” about this particular Covid-19 vaccine and the facts reported by VAERS and studies around the world. Let’s do it.

P.S. After I sent this response, it was reported 77.7% of Covid deaths in Illinois last week were vaccinated. It was also reported Ireland has a massive Covid outbreak, despite the country being 91% vaccinated. And an exhaustive year-long study in the UK was released proving vaccinated people are just as likely to spread Covid as the unvaccinated.

The debate is over. The vaccine is a failure. The vaccine mandates must end now.

Wayne Allyn Root is known as “the Conservative Warrior.” Wayne’s new book, “The Great Patriot Protest & Boycott Book” is a #1 bestseller. . Wayne is host of the nationally-
syndicated “Wayne Allyn Root: Raw & Unfiltered” on USA Radio Network, daily from 6 PM to 9 PM EST and the “WAR RAW” podcast. Visit ROOTforAmerica.com, or listen live at http://usaradio.com/wayne-allyn-root/ or “on demand” 24/7 at iHeartRadio.com.
 
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Some believe the Final Pieces have not been placed because the SAVED are Praying to DELAY it more than to Welcome it!!

IF, that is True, then WE FAILED in 1973 Roe VS Wade [Abortion], we failed with Madeline Albright suggested we REMOVE Prayer, the Pledge, and the 10 Commandments from Schools and Court Houses, we Failed by Allowing False Doctrines to infiltrate the Church, we Failed by thinking we knew better than God and Promoted Homosexuals as Pastors and Evangelists, We Failed when we SAW Seeker Friendly Churches BOOMING, and on OUR WATCH in the Past 50 Years, we Failed in Allowing Satan to control of the United States, the Final 2 Pieces of Puzzle.

BUT, had WE come together for Abortion in 1973 and Removal of Prayer/10 Commandments in 1980's LIKE the Church is NOW over Covid Vaccinations in 2021, we would not even be facing Covid At ALL in Our Lifetimes!!
You said: "Some believe the Final Pieces have not been placed because the SAVED are Praying to DELAY it more than to Welcome it!!"

Roger That - i am and have been praying for more time as there are souls that need to come to Christ, including repentance for my own children who are in there 20's.
 

shittim

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WAYNE ROOT: What I Just Told New York Times About the Complete Failure & Disaster of the Covid Vaccine


I am a media reporter with The New York Times. My colleague and I are working on a story about false or misleading vaccine misinformation in the audio space…You have said on Facebook that the vaccine “doesn’t work” and is “a complete failure.” Do you have any comment?

Sure, I have a comment. Every word I say is based on science and facts.

The VAERS reporting system is the only present scientific way of measuring deaths and injuries from any vaccine – including the Covid-19 vaccine. It’s not my system. It’s not based on politics. It has nothing to do with conservative or liberal opinions.

I wanted to share my response to the New York Times…

It is a science-based medical reporting system provided by the government and
the CDC.

It is the only way of keeping track of the deaths, crippling injuries and adverse reactions from any vaccine. It has been used for many decades.

No one in the medical community, or media has EVER in history ignored, or disparaged the VAERS Report before. Until now.

Here are the VAERS numbers: Over 17,000 Americans are reported dead directly from this vaccine – mostly from strokes, heart attacks and blood clots. Over 800,000 are reported injured, many of them hospitalized (over 83,000); many with life-threatening illness (over 18,000); many others permanently disabled (over 26,000).

This information is all publicly available and provided by the CDC. This cannot be called “misleading” by anyone in the media. The very definition of “misleading” would be to either disparage VAERS, or ignore it, and not report it daily to your readers.

The amount of deaths and significant injuries reported at VAERS is now dramatically higher than all vaccines in the past 30+ years combined. This has happened in only ten months.

That’s a fact. Facts cannot be “misleading.”

Several times in America’s recent history, the medical community has suspended or cancelled a vaccine program over a small number of deaths. The first rule of medicine is “physician do no harm.” At any sign of harm, a vaccine should and must be questioned, and/or suspended.

Never before have we even imagined a vaccine with over 17,000 deaths and over 800,000 adverse reactions.

Yet, the official VAERS numbers have been blacked out from the mainstream media and social media – including your New York Times. Anytime something is not discussed, or debated, or disparaged as “misleading” because it is different than the official government narrative, I’d call that the very definition of “intolerance” at best, and tyranny at worst.

Even more facts and SCIENCE…

Studies are in from many countries, but in particular UK and Israel, report the vaccine…

A) Is in fact failing miserably- a huge majority of recent cases, hospitalizations and deaths are double vaxxed. FACT.

B) Cases are slightly higher in countries with higher vaccination rates, and slightly lower in countries with lower vaccination rates.

These are factual, credible, scientific studies from multiple countries.

So yes, I question this vaccine, and yes, I am seriously worried about the proven deaths and injuries directly from this vaccine in the short term (as seen on the VAERS reporting system), and I’m especially worried about the long-term effects of this vaccine.

If the NY Times believe anything I’ve said is “misleading,” then you clearly don’t understand the definition of SCIENCE. I’m quoting only government, CDC and scientific studies from multiple countries.

More importantly, the very definition of “science” is asking questions and debate.

To not ask questions, especially in the face of so many Americans sick with Covid who are double vaxxed, and so many dead or injured directly from the vaccine as reported by VAERS, would make someone either naive, gullible, blind, deaf or very dumb.

I’m proud that my time at Columbia University taught me to think critically, ask questions, never accept as fact what any government agency, or any authority figure says, and always be a fearless debater.

By the way, I urge the New York Times to set up a debate on this topic. I’ll be thrilled to debate any “expert” about this particular Covid-19 vaccine and the facts reported by VAERS and studies around the world. Let’s do it.

P.S. After I sent this response, it was reported 77.7% of Covid deaths in Illinois last week were vaccinated. It was also reported Ireland has a massive Covid outbreak, despite the country being 91% vaccinated. And an exhaustive year-long study in the UK was released proving vaccinated people are just as likely to spread Covid as the unvaccinated.

The debate is over. The vaccine is a failure. The vaccine mandates must end now.

Wayne Allyn Root is known as “the Conservative Warrior.” Wayne’s new book, “The Great Patriot Protest & Boycott Book” is a #1 bestseller. . Wayne is host of the nationally-
syndicated “Wayne Allyn Root: Raw & Unfiltered” on USA Radio Network, daily from 6 PM to 9 PM EST and the “WAR RAW” podcast. Visit ROOTforAmerica.com, or listen live at http://usaradio.com/wayne-allyn-root/ or “on demand” 24/7 at iHeartRadio.com.
Great article, thank you, I have shared it forward.
blessings
 
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Did you mean "until they are killed?" The purpose of the vaccines is to kill as many as possible, and to seriously injure the rest. What these mRNA vaccines will do to the DNA of people is something else. But one thing is now clear. They are destroying the immune systems of people. And the beauty of this nefarious plot is that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE can be held accountable for all the damage being done. Nuremberg 2 should have already happened but it did not materialize.
I watched a video in which medical folk were saying that after the first jab, you love 50% of your immune system; after the second, you lose another 25%. They went on to say that after the third, you only have about 10% left.
 

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you love 50% of your immune system
You meant you lose what you love.;)

Yes, the immune systems are being destroyed daily, and the pressure to inject everyone keeps growing by leaps and bounds. So where are the people who are supposed to protect and serve? Why have they not already arrested the criminals?
 

Gideon300

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Now we have no children dying of covid.
But dying of the " vaccine"
Where do you get your information? It is straight out lies. Liars are disqualified from God's kingdom. I don't say that you are deliberately lying, but you are accepting the rubbish spouted by those who are lying and know it.
 

Gideon300

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I watched a video in which medical folk were saying that after the first jab, you love 50% of your immune system; after the second, you lose another 25%. They went on to say that after the third, you only have about 10% left.
So now the hospitals are packed with people who have no immune system so they are subject to every illness going around? You know that's not true. God gave you a brain. Why don't you use it?
 
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