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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

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THE DAILY SACRIFICES END WHEN THE ABOMINATION TAKES PLACE.
Amen!

And Verse 11 explains this:

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up:

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EXPLAINS:
When the Abomination of Daily Sacrifice Ends, Desolation takes its Place!!

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It happen(s/ed) Simultaneously!

Had NOTHING to do with the Man of Sin or Antichrist!!
 
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Amen!

And Verse 11 explains this:

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up:

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EXPLAINS:
When the Abomination of Daily Sacrifice Ends, Desolation takes its Place!!

And,
It happen(s/ed) Simultaneously!

Had NOTHING to do with the Man of Sin or Antichrist!!
It has not happened yet my friend. It is a future occurace

It has everything to do with the man of sin and the sacrifice. He is the one who causes sacrifice and burnt offering to cease by placing an abomination in the holy place.

70 AD has nothing to do with this

in 70 ad. The temple was destroyed Just like Daniel 9 says,

And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and sanctuary.

The abomination of desolation happens in the middle of the last week of daniels prophecy, when the prince who is to come (the antichrist) places an abomination in the wing of the temple. Making it desolate. Which causes sacrifice and burnt offering to cease.

You have to different events in two different time periods being the same event. Thats wrong
 

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When you read the Gospel of John this time - do so with focus and study on the Holy Spirit - take notes and pray.

There is more God has waiting for you
Its a good adwise, but whatchas it to do with the vaccine.
Btw, for to study on the Holy Spirit i use the whole bible otherwise their is the danger to have a incomplete picture. ( so far what is revealed)
 
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It has not happened yet my friend. It is a future occurace

It has everything to do with the man of sin and the sacrifice. He is the one who causes sacrifice and burnt offering to cease by placing an abomination in the holy place.

70 AD has nothing to do with this

in 70 ad. The temple was destroyed Just like Daniel 9 says,

And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and sanctuary.

The abomination of desolation happens in the middle of the last week of daniels prophecy, when the prince who is to come (the antichrist) places an abomination in the wing of the temple. Making it desolate. Which causes sacrifice and burnt offering to cease.

You have to different events in two different time periods being the same event. Thats wrong
I have real factual History and a Group of Christians, whom all Josephus wrote about, fulfilling the first portion to Matthew 24 and Daniel 12 in the Destruction of Jerusalem and the Holy Temple.

You have hot air lied from a pulpit that is NEVER going to happen very much like the pre-trib Rapture.

I have the Actual Real Life Event that Permanently Stopped DAILY SACRIFICE [Destruction of Holy Temple and Altars to ((offer)) Daily Sacrifice]!

I have Yeshua's Prophetic Fulfillment of the Temple being Stone upon Stone of one another completing Daniel 12

Daily Sacrifice has been ENDED, now going on, One Thousand Nine Hundred Fifty years AGO and Counting!!

It's been in a Literal State of Existence of complete Desolation for Almost Two Thousand years now!

The Abomination of Desolation takes place the Exact Same Moment Daily Sacrifice Ended:
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up

The Hebrew actually simplifies it because it's written literally as Daniel wrote it:
11 And from the time the daily sacrifice was removed and the silent abomination placed:
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This shows Exactly Moment when Daily Sacrifice was Removed, the Silent Abomination was [[placed]]

For 2,000 years, the Silent Abomination has taken place of Daily Sacrifice.
 
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Its a good adwise, but whatchas it to do with the vaccine.
Btw, for to study on the Holy Spirit i use the whole bible otherwise their is the danger to have a incomplete picture. ( so far what is revealed)
I see the FDA approved shots for Ages 5 to 11

I also read where they had been testing on children and Claim to have [[had NO]] Side Effects like Adults were experiencing.

How much of that Proposal do you think is Fact, and which is enough Truth to get Accepted?
 
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Aidan1,

Did You not have Your Booster [3rd] Vaccination?

This is now going on 2 weeks?

Any Symptoms?

Fever?

Cough?

Headache?

Sniffles?

Hot/Cold Spells?

Are You Sticking to the Fridgerator Door each time You open it?

Is your upper Arm very light Blue?

Any Hallucinations?

Any Vomitting?

Any runny stool?

Come on MAN, give us an update on the Booster!!
 
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After watching Luci's Video and Panel of 10 Doctor/Scientist, I've been watching Averages in the Categories they specify.

The one I am really interested in, is their Claim the Vaccine was intended to seek out the Hormones of Females and specifically where they produce eggs. I am watching for Failed Pregnancies [if the Rate increases or maintains], and watching for Actual Birth Rate averages to either flatten, decrease, or maintain course.

Even if we had 25 Reports today of 1,000 failed Pregnancies, we are dealing with an Average 23 Million (per) year currently. So 25,000 would not even change the Ratio, we need at least 9 Full Months of Data.
 
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I have real factual History and a Group of Christians, whom all Josephus wrote about, fulfilling the first portion to Matthew 24 and Daniel 12 in the Destruction of Jerusalem and the Holy Temple.

You have hot air lied from a pulpit that is NEVER going to happen very much like the pre-trib Rapture.

I have the Actual Real Life Event that Permanently Stopped DAILY SACRIFICE [Destruction of Holy Temple and Altars to ((offer)) Daily Sacrifice]!

I have Yeshua's Prophetic Fulfillment of the Temple being Stone upon Stone of one another completing Daniel 12

Daily Sacrifice has been ENDED, now going on, One Thousand Nine Hundred Fifty years AGO and Counting!!

It's been in a Literal State of Existence of complete Desolation for Almost Two Thousand years now!

The Abomination of Desolation takes place the Exact Same Moment Daily Sacrifice Ended:
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up

The Hebrew actually simplifies it because it's written literally as Daniel wrote it:
11 And from the time the daily sacrifice was removed and the silent abomination placed:
^
This shows Exactly Moment when Daily Sacrifice was Removed, the Silent Abomination was [[placed]]

For 2,000 years, the Silent Abomination has taken place of Daily Sacrifice.
What you have is what you want to believe, They did not see an abomination of desolate set up in 70 AD. there was no temple or holy place for their to be an abomination of desolation set up.
Daily sacrifice was ended. I agree. there can not be a daily sacrifice if there IS NO TEMPLE

WHat you fail to grasp is what an abomination of desolation is.

In a holy temple where sacrifices are offered. there are two means by which sacrifices will be stopped

1. The temple is destroyed. You can not offer sacrifice where there is no temple
2. The holy place is defiled or made unclean by an idol placed in the holy place. rendering it unclean. this is called an abomination which makes desolate.

Your also stuck on dan 12. and completely ignore daniel 9. which would further show you they are not the same

Dan 9:
“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall [j]be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,


This was fulfilled in AD 70

Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week

He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”


This has not happened yet. The abomination which makes desolate is the means by which sacrifice is brought to an end. as the holy place is rendered UNCLEAN.

It is in the middle of a 7 year period. so after this abomination of desolation is set up. there will be 1290 days

Just like the passage you keep speaking of. Dan 12

11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.

It also says this abomination of desolation will be standing IN THE HOLY PLACE until the consummation is poured out on the desolate. This is the return of Christ.

which is exactly what Jesus said in matt 24.

silent abomination 2000 years?

THERE IS NO TEMPLE THERE CAN BE NO ABOMINATION.

You have hot air lied from a pulpit that is NEVER going to happen very much like the pre-trib Rapture.
I will not ask you again to stop this strawman. It does not support your case. and is nothing but a proud attempt to convince yourself you are right.

Once again, the same argument can be used against you.

An abomination is an idol or unclean thing. Not dirt and dust.
 
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What you have is what you want to believe, They did not see an abomination of desolate set up in 70 AD. there was no temple or holy place for their to be an abomination of desolation set up.
Daily sacrifice was ended. I agree. there can not be a daily sacrifice if there IS NO TEMPLE

WHat you fail to grasp is what an abomination of desolation is.

In a holy temple where sacrifices are offered. there are two means by which sacrifices will be stopped

1. The temple is destroyed. You can not offer sacrifice where there is no temple
2. The holy place is defiled or made unclean by an idol placed in the holy place. rendering it unclean. this is called an abomination which makes desolate.

Your also stuck on dan 12. and completely ignore daniel 9. which would further show you they are not the same

Dan 9:
“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall [j]be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,


This was fulfilled in AD 70

Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week

He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”


This has not happened yet. The abomination which makes desolate is the means by which sacrifice is brought to an end. as the holy place is rendered UNCLEAN.

It is in the middle of a 7 year period. so after this abomination of desolation is set up. there will be 1290 days

Just like the passage you keep speaking of. Dan 12

11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.

It also says this abomination of desolation will be standing IN THE HOLY PLACE until the consummation is poured out on the desolate. This is the return of Christ.

which is exactly what Jesus said in matt 24.

silent abomination 2000 years?

THERE IS NO TEMPLE THERE CAN BE NO ABOMINATION.



I will not ask you again to stop this strawman. It does not support your case. and is nothing but a proud attempt to convince yourself you are right.

Once again, the same argument can be used against you.

An abomination is an idol or unclean thing. Not dirt and dust.
I am discussing the Jews and their Sin Offering came to an End leaving them in a Permanent State of Sin with no way to become Redeemed through OFFERING!


I am Discussing Daniel 12:11 and first portion of Matthew 24.


You are discussing Daniel 9:27 and the Middle portion of Matthew 24.

TWO EVENTS!

One Took Place and Jews have no Redemption through Sacrifice!



And the Future, when the Jews have Daily Sacrifice again when 3rd Temple is built, Which is Denying Christ [Abomination], but they will have Sacrifice 3 1/2 years. BUT NOWHERE does the Lawlessness One offer up Sacrifice...Man CREATED the idea the Antichrist offers a unholy offering. [this is what's confusing YOU!!] You think the antichrist is going to offer something unholy. That's nowhere in the Bible!! That is a MYTH!!

It still goes back to My original Point:
Daily Sacrifice ENDING is the Abomination, because the way to Redemption becomes Desolate!!
 
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The Antichrist only stops the [sacrifice and meal- offering]

He does not Offer anything on the Sin Altar!

He just [[stops]] the Sin Offering from happening!

The [[STOPPAGE]] of Daily Sin Offering [[IS THE ABOMINATION]]

You just need to pay Attention!


27 And he will strengthen a covenant for the princes for one week, and half the week he will abolish sacrifice and meal- offering, and on high, among abominations, will be the dumb one, and until destruction and extermination befall the dumb one.

No Offering, Just STOPPAGE of Sacrifice = Abomination of Desolation!

TWO-FOLD like I've mentioned already!!
 
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I am discussing the Jews and their Sin Offering came to an End leaving them in a Permanent State of Sin with no way to become Redeemed through OFFERING!


I am Discussing Daniel 12:11 and first portion of Matthew 24.


You are discussing Daniel 9:27 and the Middle portion of Matthew 24.

TWO EVENTS!

One Took Place and Jews have no Redemption through Sacrifice!



And the Future, when the Jews have Daily Sacrifice again when 3rd Temple is built, Which is Denying Christ [Abomination], but they will have Sacrifice 3 1/2 years. BUT NOWHERE does the Lawlessness One offer up Sacrifice...Man CREATED the idea the Antichrist offers a unholy offering. [this is what's confusing YOU!!] You think the antichrist is going to offer something unholy. That's nowhere in the Bible!! That is a MYTH!!

It still goes back to My original Point:
Daily Sacrifice ENDING is the Abomination, because the way to Redemption becomes Desolate!!
You are confused my friend

I am discussing daneil 9: 26 and 27, dan 12 and matt 24.

Dan 12: 11 did not happen in ad 70. Prince titus did not place an abomination of desolation in the holy place. He DESTROYED the holy place.

What happened in ad 70 is the fulfillment of Dan 9: 26 and the first part of matt 24 (not one stone will be left standing)

I am talking about what happenes in Dan 9: 27, Dan 12 (the abomination which makes desolate which causes sacrifice and burnt offering to cease) and is mentioned by Jesus in Matt 24 (when you see the abomination of desolation STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE)

as for your final comment

The man of lawlessness does not OFFER UP A SACRIFICE

HE PLACES AN UNCLEAN THING IN THE HOLY PLACE rendering it DESOLATE.

You keep proving you do not understand what an abomination which causes desolation is. Until you actually look up the history and words themselves. You will not understand.

Abomination is NOT DENYING CHRIST> and it is NOT THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE

It is an IDOL OR UNCLEAN THING

Look up the word man!
 

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Aidan1,

Did You not have Your Booster [3rd] Vaccination?

This is now going on 2 weeks?

Any Symptoms?

Fever?

Cough?

Headache?

Sniffles?

Hot/Cold Spells?

Are You Sticking to the Fridgerator Door each time You open it?

Is your upper Arm very light Blue?

Any Hallucinations?

Any Vomitting?

Any runny stool?

Come on MAN, give us an update on the Booster!!
Yep, i had it. :) . Worked the whole day in garden today. I feel every bone.
After the booster, i felt better then with the first 2 shots. I had the pain in left arm for 2 days and waitet to feel tired, as I did with the 2 shots. But nothing happend. Feeling o.k.!
 
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You are confused my friend

I am discussing daneil 9: 26 and 27, dan 12 and matt 24.

Dan 12: 11 did not happen in ad 70. Prince titus did not place an abomination of desolation in the holy place. He DESTROYED the holy place.

What happened in ad 70 is the fulfillment of Dan 9: 26 and the first part of matt 24 (not one stone will be left standing)

I am talking about what happenes in Dan 9: 27, Dan 12 (the abomination which makes desolate which causes sacrifice and burnt offering to cease) and is mentioned by Jesus in Matt 24 (when you see the abomination of desolation STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE)

as for your final comment

The man of lawlessness does not OFFER UP A SACRIFICE

HE PLACES AN UNCLEAN THING IN THE HOLY PLACE rendering it DESOLATE.

You keep proving you do not understand what an abomination which causes desolation is. Until you actually look up the history and words themselves. You will not understand.

Abomination is NOT DENYING CHRIST> and it is NOT THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE

It is an IDOL OR UNCLEAN THING

Look up the word man!
Clearly, it's way over your head!!
 
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The Antichrist only stops the [sacrifice and meal- offering]

He does not Offer anything on the Sin Altar!

He just [[stops]] the Sin Offering from happening!

The [[STOPPAGE]] of Daily Sin Offering [[IS THE ABOMINATION]]

You just need to pay Attention!
He causes sacrifice and burnt offering to CEASE by placing an abominable object in the holy place rendering it desolate.

Until that idol or unclean thing is removed, the holy place is unclean and sacrifice and burnt offering according to the law is rendered impossible

Scripture states that unclean thing will stand in the holy place for 3. 5 years. Meaning there can be no sacrifice for that period of time.

Again, You do not understand
 
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You are confused my friend

I am discussing daneil 9: 26 and 27, dan 12 and matt 24.

Dan 12: 11 did not happen in ad 70. Prince titus did not place an abomination of desolation in the holy place. He DESTROYED the holy place.

What happened in ad 70 is the fulfillment of Dan 9: 26 and the first part of matt 24 (not one stone will be left standing)

I am talking about what happenes in Dan 9: 27, Dan 12 (the abomination which makes desolate which causes sacrifice and burnt offering to cease) and is mentioned by Jesus in Matt 24 (when you see the abomination of desolation STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE)

as for your final comment

The man of lawlessness does not OFFER UP A SACRIFICE

HE PLACES AN UNCLEAN THING IN THE HOLY PLACE rendering it DESOLATE.

You keep proving you do not understand what an abomination which causes desolation is. Until you actually look up the history and words themselves. You will not understand.

Abomination is NOT DENYING CHRIST> and it is NOT THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE

It is an IDOL OR UNCLEAN THING

Look up the word man!
I posted Literal Scripture from Verses You claim to use, and NONE OF THEM make Your Claim!!
 
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Clearly, it's way over your head!!
No, its over yours man

And your pride right now is over the roof man.

You unwillingness to look at it and learn and continued use of a strawman has clouded your ability to understand
 
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I posted Literal Scripture from Verses You claim to use, and NONE OF THEM make Your Claim!!
I quoted literal scripture from the word of God.

and I proved they do make my claim. You saying they do not is just further proof you can not counter my arguments.

You are not willing to discuss, its your way or the highways.
 
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He causes sacrifice and burnt offering to CEASE by placing an abominable object in the holy place rendering it desolate.

Until that idol or unclean thing is removed, the holy place is unclean and sacrifice and burnt offering according to the law is rendered impossible

Scripture states that unclean thing will stand in the holy place for 3. 5 years. Meaning there can be no sacrifice for that period of time.

Again, You do not understand
No, it is Hebrew and Aramaic and reads in the Torah, not kjV [mistranlated source], that WHEN Daily Sacrifice Ends the Abomination just happens.

There is no physical setting down something on top the Sin Altar to stop Daily Sacrifice!

He just creates War and the Jews are killed and others escape Revelation 12
 
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No, its over yours man

And your pride right now is over the roof man.

You unwillingness to look at it and learn and continued use of a strawman has clouded your ability to understand
Had you used a Proper Bible for Daniel's Version, you would have corrected Your Own Errors!!
 
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Yep, i had it. :) . Worked the whole day in garden today. I feel every bone.
After the booster, i felt better then with the first 2 shots. I had the pain in left arm for 2 days and waitet to feel tired, as I did with the 2 shots. But nothing happend. Feeling o.k.!

Did You have similar reactions with Your first 2 shots?
 
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