Understanding the Trinity as a doctrine.
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Jesus is not the Father in that He is come in the flesh (1 John 4:1-3, 2 John 1:7); while the Father is a Spirit without flesh (John 4:23-24).
However, the Spirit that dwells in Jesus is the same Spirit as the Father (John 4:23-24, John 14:7-11).
God is one Spirit (John 4:24, Ephesians 4:4).
The Father is a Spirit (John 4:23-24); and Jesus, being God, is a Spirit (John 4:24).
There is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4)
Therefore, Jesus and the Father are the same Spirit.
The Father inhabiteth eternity (Isaiah 57:15); while the Son exists in finite human flesh (1 John 4:1-3, 2 John 1:7).
However, the Spirit that dwells in Jesus is the same Spirit as the Father (John 4:23-24, John 14:7-11).
God is one Spirit (John 4:24, Ephesians 4:4).
The Father is a Spirit (John 4:23-24); and Jesus, being God, is a Spirit (John 4:24).
There is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4)
Therefore, Jesus and the Father are the same Spirit.
The Father inhabiteth eternity (Isaiah 57:15); while the Son exists in finite human flesh (1 John 4:1-3, 2 John 1:7).
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No, I have not framed myself as perfect.
My position is the same as Paul's, as he gave it in 1 Corinthians 4:3-4.
It was an anthropomorphism.
Does God have wings?
Psa 17:8, Keep me as the apple of the eye, hide me under the shadow of thy wings,
Psa 36:7, How excellent is thy lovingkindness, O God! therefore the children of men put their trust under the shadow of thy wings.
Psa 57:1, [[To the chief Musician, Altaschith, Michtam of David, when he fled from Saul in the cave.]] Be merciful unto me, O God, be merciful unto me: for my soul trusteth in thee: yea, in the shadow of thy wings will I make my refuge, until these calamities be overpast.
Psa 63:7, Because thou hast been my help, therefore in the shadow of thy wings will I rejoice.
My position is the same as Paul's, as he gave it in 1 Corinthians 4:3-4.
It was an anthropomorphism.
Does God have wings?
Psa 17:8, Keep me as the apple of the eye, hide me under the shadow of thy wings,
Psa 36:7, How excellent is thy lovingkindness, O God! therefore the children of men put their trust under the shadow of thy wings.
Psa 57:1, [[To the chief Musician, Altaschith, Michtam of David, when he fled from Saul in the cave.]] Be merciful unto me, O God, be merciful unto me: for my soul trusteth in thee: yea, in the shadow of thy wings will I make my refuge, until these calamities be overpast.
Psa 63:7, Because thou hast been my help, therefore in the shadow of thy wings will I rejoice.
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Error.
Revelation specifically points to Jesus as the God man.
Not the father.
And both are framed as 2 separate individuals.
Both dynamics are at the passing of the scroll.
When you quote isaiah 9:6 you are seeing an overlap
Jesus referenced that same overlap.
" when you have seen me you have seen the Father"
If you think you can understand the trinity....that dynamic will lead you to error.
Nobody has ever understood the trinity because it is not mental
Your error is your starting place.
I can rest in what is written, KNOWING the trinity is a mystery only discerned through the spirit.
Revelation specifically points to Jesus as the God man.
Not the father.
And both are framed as 2 separate individuals.
Both dynamics are at the passing of the scroll.
When you quote isaiah 9:6 you are seeing an overlap
Jesus referenced that same overlap.
" when you have seen me you have seen the Father"
If you think you can understand the trinity....that dynamic will lead you to error.
Nobody has ever understood the trinity because it is not mental
Your error is your starting place.
I can rest in what is written, KNOWING the trinity is a mystery only discerned through the spirit.
A lot of what you say is true.
Your failure was obvious to me when you invoke your superior mental understanding
I already knew you would muddy it up.
I would too if i operated in understanding alone.
Yes.
In your " understanding" i show you where either the word is a lie, or we leave it alone by faith and just believe what is written.
Your failure was obvious to me when you invoke your superior mental understanding
I already knew you would muddy it up.
I would too if i operated in understanding alone.
Yes.
In your " understanding" i show you where either the word is a lie, or we leave it alone by faith and just believe what is written.
There is a good one for jbf.
It also says Jesus was slain from the foundation of the world.
It wont be figured out.
Accepted but not figured out.
A mystery.
Not convinced?
Keep going and try to " explain" the trinity.
Thank God we dont have to.
It is a faith walk. Accepted without having to add human understanding.
It also says Jesus was slain from the foundation of the world.
It wont be figured out.
Accepted but not figured out.
A mystery.
Not convinced?
Keep going and try to " explain" the trinity.
Thank God we dont have to.
It is a faith walk. Accepted without having to add human understanding.
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