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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

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I just looked this up...fact check it. This is false information from people trying to downplay ivermectin and it's use.
I only use Scientific Websites that track specific data for certain occurrences.
 
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I am not angry. I am shocked about such ignorant attitude to people who have no natural immunity against Covid.
And this from people which call themselfes Christians.
If the Adressat from my post shows an different attidude I am always ready to apologize. What I wrote is not more then a conclusion to such a view. And some are here who be proud to have an natural immunity and there posts shows nowhere interest for those who dont have.
I could be silent, of course. Sometimes it is wise to do and sometimes it is wrong.

oh please...you are virtue signalling and refusing responsibility for your unChrist like words while teling everyone else they are not Christian (according to your yardstick)

just look at what you post! you will apologize to someone that you lied about and created a false post about if THEY what? grovel and beg you to do it?

you are the worst sort of hypocrite and your posts at this point are troll like and anything but Christian according to YOUR own standards

you aren't shocked. you are caught.

you absolutely should apologize for saying Nehemiah does not care about people dying

who do you think you are? set an example since you think everyone else does not meet your standards
 
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In post 3484 i could not find any thinking of care about the 2% of people who will not have natural immunity.
So my assumption is he dont care about them. He can correct me every time.
you avoid the truth like the plague

maybe the truth is just not in you
 
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They say evidence already exists to show that these nano materials are safe. The scientists came to this conclusion after a detailed analysis of the charred parts of meat barbecued over open fire. Their analysis shows that burnt meat contains graphene (in the form [[of graphene oxide]]) [along with] nano carbon particles.

"Consumption of food roasted on an open fire has been going on from the time the stone age man discovered fire more than 10000 years ago. The unintentional intake of such nano carbon stained cooked meat by man for thousands of years has not shown any ill effect," the duo say in their paper. If any mutation had occurred under the stress of such food intake in humans, "our evolution (must have) acquired full immunity against the use of such nano carbon materials today," it says.
 

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oh please...you are virtue signalling and refusing responsibility for your unChrist like words while teling everyone else they are not Christian (according to your yardstick)

just look at what you post! you will apologize to someone that you lied about and created a false post about if THEY what? grovel and beg you to do it?

you are the worst sort of hypocrite and your posts at this point are troll like and anything but Christian according to YOUR own standards

you aren't shocked. you are caught.

you absolutely should apologize for saying Nehemiah does not care about people dying

who do you think you are? set an example since you think everyone else does not meet your standards
You can call me what you want. But if you call me hypocrite and troll, then you should be able to tell me the posts i was hypocrite.
My mistake seems me is, not to share your view about the vaccine and the virus.
And as I already said, if Nehemiah6 correct me, then I have no problems to apologize.
 
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Charred meat barbecued over open fire has graphene and other nano carbon particles, scientists have found, leading them to a significant conclusion -- that these materials are non-toxic to humans and could be absolutely safe [1] .Jun 23, 2014
that is, again, nonsense

we have known for years that charred meat...the charred part...is carcenogenic

I will post more about that later. scientests do no
BTW, SOPHIE,

Look at the DATE of this Article: (2014)
Charred meat barbecued over open fire has graphene and other nano carbon particles, scientists have found, leading them to a significant conclusion -- that these materials are non-toxic to humans and could be absolutely safe [1] .Jun 23, 2014

2014, so this not Related to Covid to promote Saftey.
IT WAS DEEMED SAFE in 2014!

Maybe you should understand the point of the discussion first before thinking you are adding to it!!

don't be ridiculous

you are not talking about covid...you are presenting graphene oxide as a desirable additive to our diets...just more nonsense

you are saying God fed it to the priests. this type of nonsense needs to be refuted and I will be happy to do so

FYI though, they have been experimenting with the type of technology used in the covid vaccines for many years mr know it all dude
 
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They say evidence already exists to show that these nano materials are safe. The scientists came to this conclusion after a detailed analysis of the charred parts of meat barbecued over open fire. Their analysis shows that burnt meat contains graphene (in the form [[of graphene oxide]]) [along with] nano carbon particles.

"Consumption of food roasted on an open fire has been going on from the time the stone age man discovered fire more than 10000 years ago. The unintentional intake of such nano carbon stained cooked meat by man for thousands of years has not shown any ill effect," the duo say in their paper. If any mutation had occurred under the stress of such food intake in humans, "our evolution (must have) acquired full immunity against the use of such nano carbon materials today," it says.
And WE Know this has been going on Since God Commanded Sacrifice of Meat on Open Flames the Priests ate Later!
 
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The researchers say they were surprised to find graphene derivatives and carbon nano particles in 'plant charcoal' used in a branded formulation of gripe water approved for treating stomach ailments like indigestion, abdominal distension with cramping pains in infants.

The isolation of graphene and nano carbon particulates from both roasted meat -- consumed by humans for centuries -- and the plant charcoal, used in an approved medication for infants strongly refutes toxicity menace of such nano carbons to humans, they add.
 
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You can call me what you want. But if you call me hypocrite and troll, then you should be able to tell me the posts i was hypocrite.
My mistake seems me is, not to share your view about the vaccine and the virus.
And as I already said, if Nehemiah6 correct me, then I have no problems to apologize.
I have clearly outlined what you posted, you know what you posted, Nehemiah knows what you posted, everyone else in this thread knows what you posted

you are clearly not able to deal with the truth, even when someone shows you exactly what it is you did...has nothing to do with the vaccine, but how you speak to people who have been very patient with you and put up with your fibs

you have made those kinds of remarks to people quite a few times....I think it's time people stop putting up with it

you cannot stick to the topic...you make personal remarks to people and then when someone objects, you blame them for what YOU said.

smh
 
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Interesting, Science has been using Graphene for laxatives in baby foods for Digestion and we get ours from eating grilled meat. So, if its safe for babies, it should be safe for adults.

God would have known these benefits.
Hence, Priests, were commanded to eat the Meat!
 
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they are experimenting on animals because, well, humans don't like living in small cages and eating bananas all day


Blood exposure to graphene oxide (GO) causes anaphylactic death in primate animals.

Long-circulation and distal lung deposition contribute to anaphylactic reaction.

Anaphylactic reaction was manifested by elevated IgE level and severe lung injury.

Case-by-case allergy tests are indispensable prior to the biomedical use of GO.

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Toxicological evaluation of graphene oxide (GO) has been actively pursued under the context of large-scale industrial production and the potential for clinical translation. Nevertheless, the safety of GO remains largely debated, especially due to the lack of toxicological profile in higher mammals. Here we show that blood exposure to GO under the maximum safe starting dose may cause accidental death of mammals, including non-human primates (1 in 5 Macaca fascicularis and 7 in 121 mice), while remains general amenable in others. Elevated levels of immunoglobulin E and severe lung injury were found in dead animals, suggesting the GO-induced acute anaphylactic reactions. Noticeably, we did not observe anaphylactic reactions and deaths for two other carbon nanomaterials, including single-walled carbon nanotubes and nanodiamonds. This difference might arise from the long in-vivo circulating time of two-dimensional GO materials. This study thus highlights the urgent need to evaluate the hypersensitivity risks of graphene and other nanomaterials.

Introduction
Graphene oxide (GO) and its derivates are an emerging class of carbon nanomaterials (CNMs). Due to its unique two-dimensional (2D) structure, GO possesses outstanding features such as ultra-high surface area, rendering it a type of highly attractive materials for industrial applications. The increasing production and use of GO in industrial applications like optical/electronic circuitry [1], energy generation and storage [2,3], raise the chance of human exposure to GO. In the meanwhile, more recent efforts have also been devoted to biomedical applications including cancer diagnostics, drug delivery, and immunotherapy [[4], [5], [6], [7], [8]]. However, these demonstrations generally remain at the stage of fundamental research with limited clinical translation. One primary hurdle is the safety concern of in-vivo use of GO. Thus, there is an urgent call for evaluating the impact of GO on human health.

con't
 
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Extensive studies on the toxicology of GO have been performed, mostly at the level of in-vitro cells and small model animals. However, the conclusions often vary greatly or even contradict each other across the studies on differently leveled models with different administration doses. For example, the often-observed CNMs-induced oxidative stress in in-vitro cultured cells and zebrafish may be well tolerated by mice [4,[9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16]]. Moreover, the immune responses to same materials are also diverse among animal species [17]. Especially, the potential impacts of GO on human remain unexplored. Non-human primate studies may provide valuable information due to their close genetic and physiological relationship with human beings [18,19]. However, toxicological profile of GO in non-human primates is not available.

In the present study, we investigate the impacts of blood exposure to GOs on BALB/c mice and non-human primates (Macaca fasciculari) under the maximum safe starting dose. For comparison, we also studied the effects from two other CNMs with different morphologies, including one-dimensional (1D) single-walled carbon nanotubes (SWCNTs) and zero-dimensional (0D) nanodiamonds (NDs). The experimental design, including the GO exposure, blood test, and major organ analysis, is shown in Fig. 1b.

the info continues, but I am sure most will not care to read the entire thing....

suffice it to say, that GO is NOT as safe as has been presented

we see it in the vaccine as part of the delivery method and please remember, THE SO CALLED VACCINE IS EXPERIMENTAL AND SO IS THE GO IN IT
 
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Interesting, Science has been using Graphene for laxatives in baby foods for Digestion and we get ours from eating grilled meat. So, if its safe for babies, it should be safe for adults.

God would have known these benefits.
Hence, Priests, were commanded to eat the Meat!

Abstract
Graphene oxide (GO) is considered a promising 2D material for biomedical applications. However, the biological health effects of GO are not yet fully understood, in particular for highly sensitive populations such as pregnant women and their unborn children. Especially the potential impact of GO on the human placenta, a transient and multifunctional organ that enables successful pregnancy, has not been investigated yet. Here we performed a mechanistic in vitro study on the placental uptake and biological effects of four non-labelled GO with varying physicochemical properties using the human trophoblast cell line BeWo. No overt cytotoxicity was observed for all GO materials after 48 h of exposure at concentrations up to 40 µg ml−1. However, exposure to GO materials induced a slight decrease in mitochondrial activity and human choriogonadotropin secretion. In addition, GO induced a transient opening of the trophoblast barrier as evidenced by a temporary increase in the translocation of sodium fluorescein, a marker molecule for passive transport. Evidence for cellular uptake of GO was found by transmission electron microscopy analysis, revealing uptake of even large micro-sized GO by BeWo cells. Although GO did not elicit major acute adverse effects on BeWo trophoblast cells, the pronounced cellular internalization as well as the potential adverse effects on hormone release and barrier integrity warrants further studies on the long-term consequences of GO on placental functionality in order to understand potential embryo-fetotoxic risks.
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I've raised 5 children. All were on baby food. Graphene Oxide!
I eat from the grill 4 to 5 times per week. Graphene Oxide!
Humans have been cooking meat on fire since Adam. Graphene Oxide!

With 6,000 years of human history open fire cooking, I ain't sweating the stupid things when my consumption is a trillion more times than what's found in 1 of 3 vials of Vaccine.

And a Shot, is 1/4 of Vial.

So, the chances get slimmer and slimmer.
 
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Interesting, Science has been using Graphene for laxatives in baby foods for Digestion and we get ours from eating grilled meat. So, if its safe for babies, it should be safe for adults.

God would have known these benefits.
Hence, Priests, were commanded to eat the Meat!
in response to your comments on priests, here is the truth

nobody was eating charred meat. the leftovers were burned...the meat for the priests and his sons and family were BOILED. the fat was burned and the leftovers from the priests was burned. they did not eat charred meat

you made it up. happy to apologize if shown otherwise, but in the passage below, they boiled what was eaten and burned the leftovers

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(26) The priest that offereth it for sin.—Rather, the priest that offereth it for expiation, or, the priest that expiateth sin by it. That is, who makes atonement by the blood thereof. (See Leviticus 9:15.)
Shall eat it.—God gave the sin offering as food for the priests to bear the iniquity of the congregation, and to make atonement for them (Leviticus 10:17). It constituted a part of their livelihood (Ezekiel 44:28-29). The officiating priest to whom fell this perquisite could invite not only his family but other priests and their sons to partake of it. Covetous priests abused this gift (Hosea 4:8).

In the holy place shall it be eaten.—That is, within the forecourt of the sanctuary. Eight of the offerings had to be eaten in the precincts of the sanctuary: (1) the flesh of the sin offering (Leviticus 4:26); (2); the flesh of the trespass offering (Leviticus 7:6); (3) the peace offering of the congregation (Leviticus 23:19-20); (4), the remainder of the omer (Leviticus 23:10-11); (5), of the meat offering of the Israelites (Leviticus 2, 3-10); (6), the two loaves (Leviticus 23, 20); (7), the shew-bread (Leviticus 24:9); and (8), the leper’s log of oil (Leviticus 14:10-13).

Exodus 29:31-37; Leviticus 8:31-36
"And thou shalt take the ram of the consecration and seethe his flesh in the holy place. And Aaron and his sons shall eat the flesh of the ram, and the bread that is in the basket, by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And they shall eat those things wherewith the atonement was made, to consecrate and to sanctify them: but a stranger shall not eat thereof because they are holy. And if ought of the flesh of the consecrations, or of the bread, remain unto the morning, then thou shalt burn the remainder with fire: it shall not be eaten, because it is holy. And thus shalt thou do unto Aaron, and to his sons, according to all things which I have commanded thee: seven days shalt thou consecrate them. And thou shalt offer every day a bullock for a sin offering for atonement: and thou shalt cleanse the altar, when thou hast made an atonement for it, and thou shalt anoint it, to sanctify it. Seven days thou shalt make an atonement for the altar, and sanctify it; and it shall he an altar most holy: whatsoever toucheth the altar shall be holy." -Ex. 29:31-37
"And Moses said unto Aaron and to his sons, boil the flesh at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation; and there eat it with the bread that is in the basket of consecrations, as I commanded, saying, Aaron and his sons shall eat it. And that which remaineth of the flesh and of the bread shall ye burn with fire. And ye shall not go out of the door of the tabernacle of the congregation seven days, until the days of your consecration be at an end: for seven days shall he consecrate you. As he hath done this day, so the Lord bath commanded to do, to make an atonement for you. Therefore shall ye abide at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation day and night seven days, and keep the charge of the Lord, that ye die not: for so I am commanded. So Aaron and his sons did all things which the Lord commanded by the hand of Moses." -Lev. 8:31-36
Hitherto Aaron and his SODS had been comparatively passive; the only action on their part was the laying their hands upon the heads of the various sacrifices. They were now however commanded to eat the flesh of the ram of consecration, (the ram with which their hands had been filled,) and the remainder of the bread of consecrations, (with which also their hands had been filled.) They were to be strengthened for the Lord's service by feeding on " those things wherewith the atonement was made, to fill their hand, to sanctify them." Ex. 29:33. Atonement, consecration, and sanctification were all included under the one sacrifice of the ram, and the bread which now became their food, or as it were the source of life to them.
 
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Let's do the Math!

1 Graphene Residue found in 1 of 3 Vials.

That means, 11 shots are Good, one has Graphene.

I like those odds!
 
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in response to your comments on priests, here is the truth

nobody was eating charred meat. the leftovers were burned...the meat for the priests and his sons and family were BOILED. the fat was burned and the leftovers from the priests was burned. they did not eat charred meat

you made it up. happy to apologize if shown otherwise, but in the passage below, they boiled what was eaten and burned the leftovers

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(26) The priest that offereth it for sin.—Rather, the priest that offereth it for expiation, or, the priest that expiateth sin by it. That is, who makes atonement by the blood thereof. (See Leviticus 9:15.)
Shall eat it.—God gave the sin offering as food for the priests to bear the iniquity of the congregation, and to make atonement for them (Leviticus 10:17). It constituted a part of their livelihood (Ezekiel 44:28-29). The officiating priest to whom fell this perquisite could invite not only his family but other priests and their sons to partake of it. Covetous priests abused this gift (Hosea 4:8).

In the holy place shall it be eaten.—That is, within the forecourt of the sanctuary. Eight of the offerings had to be eaten in the precincts of the sanctuary: (1) the flesh of the sin offering (Leviticus 4:26); (2); the flesh of the trespass offering (Leviticus 7:6); (3) the peace offering of the congregation (Leviticus 23:19-20); (4), the remainder of the omer (Leviticus 23:10-11); (5), of the meat offering of the Israelites (Leviticus 2, 3-10); (6), the two loaves (Leviticus 23, 20); (7), the shew-bread (Leviticus 24:9); and (8), the leper’s log of oil (Leviticus 14:10-13).

Exodus 29:31-37; Leviticus 8:31-36
"And thou shalt take the ram of the consecration and seethe his flesh in the holy place. And Aaron and his sons shall eat the flesh of the ram, and the bread that is in the basket, by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And they shall eat those things wherewith the atonement was made, to consecrate and to sanctify them: but a stranger shall not eat thereof because they are holy. And if ought of the flesh of the consecrations, or of the bread, remain unto the morning, then thou shalt burn the remainder with fire: it shall not be eaten, because it is holy. And thus shalt thou do unto Aaron, and to his sons, according to all things which I have commanded thee: seven days shalt thou consecrate them. And thou shalt offer every day a bullock for a sin offering for atonement: and thou shalt cleanse the altar, when thou hast made an atonement for it, and thou shalt anoint it, to sanctify it. Seven days thou shalt make an atonement for the altar, and sanctify it; and it shall he an altar most holy: whatsoever toucheth the altar shall be holy." -Ex. 29:31-37
"And Moses said unto Aaron and to his sons, boil the flesh at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation; and there eat it with the bread that is in the basket of consecrations, as I commanded, saying, Aaron and his sons shall eat it. And that which remaineth of the flesh and of the bread shall ye burn with fire. And ye shall not go out of the door of the tabernacle of the congregation seven days, until the days of your consecration be at an end: for seven days shall he consecrate you. As he hath done this day, so the Lord bath commanded to do, to make an atonement for you. Therefore shall ye abide at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation day and night seven days, and keep the charge of the Lord, that ye die not: for so I am commanded. So Aaron and his sons did all things which the Lord commanded by the hand of Moses." -Lev. 8:31-36
Hitherto Aaron and his SODS had been comparatively passive; the only action on their part was the laying their hands upon the heads of the various sacrifices. They were now however commanded to eat the flesh of the ram of consecration, (the ram with which their hands had been filled,) and the remainder of the bread of consecrations, (with which also their hands had been filled.) They were to be strengthened for the Lord's service by feeding on " those things wherewith the atonement was made, to fill their hand, to sanctify them." Ex. 29:33. Atonement, consecration, and sanctification were all included under the one sacrifice of the ram, and the bread which now became their food, or as it were the source of life to them.
They still ate it.

And it is the FIRE that is where the TOXINS exist.

Clean the meats all day long and for hours if like...

[Charred is the condition] from the Toxin Fire.

And, greens [salad's] contain them as well.
 
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I've raised 5 children. All were on baby food. Graphene Oxide!
I eat from the grill 4 to 5 times per week. Graphene Oxide!
Humans have been cooking meat on fire since Adam. Graphene Oxide!

With 6,000 years of human history open fire cooking, I ain't sweating the stupid things when my consumption is a trillion more times than what's found in 1 of 3 vials of Vaccine.

And a Shot, is 1/4 of Vial.

So, the chances get slimmer and slimmer.

Graphene oxide is the hot topic in biomedical and pharmaceutical research of the current decade. However, its complex interactions with human blood components complicate the transition from the promising in vitro results to clinical settings. Even though graphene oxide is made with the same atoms as our organs, tissues and cells, its bi-dimensional nature causes unique interactions with blood proteins and biological membranes and can lead to severe effects like thrombogenicity and immune cell activation. In this review, we will describe the journey of graphene oxide after injection into the bloodstream, from the initial interactions with plasma proteins to the formation of the “biomolecular corona”, and biodistribution. We will consider the link between the chemical properties of graphene oxide (and its functionalized/reduced derivatives), protein binding and in vivo response. We will also summarize data on biodistribution and toxicity in view of the current knowledge of the influence of the biomolecular corona on these processes. Our aim is to shed light on the unsolved problems regarding the graphene oxide corona to build the groundwork for the future development of drug delivery technology.

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