No, it does not ‘stand to reason’. That’s not even remotely logical. Rather, it’s ridiculously flawed thinking.
Steven Anderson is wrong - Sodomites can still be saved.
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Since before 1986...however at that time is when I first spoke in tongues and I consider that I was saved at that point.
He will not sanctify you against your will.
You must surrender to His Lordship for Him to do so.
This crates for a cult-like mentality in which the amateur Greek and Hebrew scholar becomes the cult-leader; because now he can tell you what the holy scriptures REALLY MEAN.
No, I believe that God gave His unadulterated message to the common people, in their own language.
For the educated scribes and Pharisees rejected Jesus while the common people heard Him gladly.
So, I do not believe that God is going to limit His unadulterated message to educated Hebrew and Greek scholars; who might be inclined to reject Him.
He is going to give it to the common person who can only read the Bible in his own language.
I take it that you are an expert in Hebrew and Greek?
Because if you are only an amateur, you are subject to error in your own translation of what is written.
Notice it does not say in 1 John 1:8, "If we say that we do no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us."
Because if it did, it would be in contradiction to its context in 1 John 3:5-0.
And you are right that He came to save...
He came to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21) and to redeem us from all iniquity (Titus 2:13-14).
He did...even in the kjv.
However, because you are one who does not endure sound doctrine, you heap for yourselves teachers in the translators of other versions.
Unfortunately for you, you cannot even trust any Bible. You have to learn Greek and Hebrew to the point of being able to read and speak these languages; or else you will never be able to get God's unadulterated message (from your perspective).
Not completely.
The reasoning is that if the NLT is faulty, then God did not place His guard over every translation; and therefore other translations can also be faulty.
Like I said, that’s not logical.
There is absolutely no causal connection between God’s alleged failure to oversee the NLT and His alleged oversight of any other translation. Here’s the simple truth: the translations are not inspired. ALL are potentially erroneous in places.
So, you affirm the conclusion that you say that I have come to illogically.
Perhaps potentially, but not in reality.
The kjv is inspired and inerrant as concerning doctrine.
For God is not going to limit His unadulterated message to educated Greek and Hebrew scholars; who might be inclined to reject Him.
He is going to give it to the common people who receive Him gladly.
I said that your assertion is illogical.
As is every modern translation of Scripture.
I won't disagree with that...
However I will contend that modern translations are in fact watered down so that one cannot be adequately edified by them.
That a person can come to the saving knowledge of Jesus through every translation is kind of an up-in-the-air proposition for me. I think that while the gospel message cannot be completely subverted by all of the subtractions, it is more difficult for someone to get the full message when certain words, phrases, sentences, paragraphs, and even entire passages are removed from the translation that you are reading.
I challenge you to support your assertion with evidence; without which it is merely a speculative opinion.
Consider Luke 9:55-56 in the NIV vs. the kjv.
This is only one example.
Another example is Romans 13:9 in both of these versions.
There are many more.
Some versions entirely remove the first half of John 8 and the last half of Mark 16.
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So for 35 years. You did not learn to live in the spirit, you still sin?
Spoke in tongues? What does that have to do with anything???That does not make you a believer
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Lol,
You do not have to be a brain surgeon. You can look at the greek word. Look at the defenition. Look at the language used. And realise. That what is written in english does not actually fit perfectly with what was said.
Case in point is when Jesus asked peter if he loved him. No english text properly interprets that passage. Although it is not so bad people will misinterpret it. It is just that the depth of what happened there is not able to be sEven, Because the english word love is to open. Where as the greek has multiple words for love.
That is just one example.
Speaking in tongues is an evidence of being filled with the Spirit.
Are you questioning my salvation?
I think that there might be a rule against doing that.
In answer to your first question, my answer is 1 Corinthians 4:3-4.
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I never said I was perfect now did I. But I can test the spirits of what people tell me..
You can;t do that if you hold yourself only to an eng;ish text.
The english language is flawed. If the language is flawed then you expect an interpretation to that language to be flawed.
Literally the word would be twice and large if they accurately and correctly completely interpreted the word..
{baptism is not even an english word it is a transliteration of the greek. And because they di dnot translate it. We have so many false teachers misapplying baptism and many applying water baptism to a false gospel of works.