Biblical Mary!

[JaumeJ]

Jesus Yeshua is the Aleph and thav, the alpha and the omega, the beginning with no beginning and the end with no end.

Mary, as has been posted accurately, is the most blessedd among women.

As for how this works, stop listening to flesh and wait until our Father reveals all mysteries. This will be a glorious event. Praise God, amen.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Is it your contention that Revelation 12 is talking about some woman other than Mary? It sure sounds like Mary to me.

Rev 12 is speaking of Israel. Not Mary. Mary did
Not flea to the wilderness after Christ was taken in fear of satan. Jesus til John to take care of her as his mother. John stated in Jerusalem

 

[arthurfleminger]

Flesh begets flesh only. According to the flesh Christ was of the seed of David.

You say that 'Flesh begets flesh only'. Apparantly you don't understand the nature of Jesus, he was both God and Man and, try as you like, that nature is inseparable. And you are wrong again when you say that Christ was the seed of David. According to Scripture, Christ was the seed of the Holy Spirit in Mary. For a senior member you don't seem to know too much.

 

[tourist]

Biblical Mary:

Mother of God Lk 1:43

Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30

Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34

Spiritual Mother Jn 19:26-27 rev 12:17

happy to answer any questions ! Mark

The conception of Jesus in Mary was immaculate but she was not a perpetual virgin. It states clearly in the below verse that Joseph did not know his wife Mary until after the birth of Jesu.

Matthew 1:25
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus.

The scripture references that you provided only confirm that Mary was a virgin when Jesus was conceived. The verses do not state that Mary remained a perpetual virgin after the birth of Jesus.

Your portrayal of biblical Mary in regards to her being a perpetual virgin is inaccurate. Also, there are no scriptures that state that Mary herself was conceived immaculately.

 

[tourist]

I tell you another secret.There will be no feelings of inadequacy in heaven even if you get in by the skin of of your teeth.

Good to know.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You say that 'Flesh begets flesh only'. Apparantly you don't understand the nature of Jesus, he was both God and Man and, try as you like, that nature is inseparable. And you are wrong again when you say that Christ was the seed of David. According to Scripture, Christ was the seed of the Holy Spirit in Mary. For a senior member you don't seem to know too much.

John 7:42
Has not the Scripture said that the Christ comes from the seed of David and from the town of Bethlehem, where David was?”

Romans 1:3
concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh,

2 Timothy 2:8
Remember that Jesus Christ, of the seed of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel,

You should study your bible before you start attacking members my friend

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So, is Mary the mother of God? She is the mother of Jesus and Jesus is God, one with the Father. Whether you like it or not, Mary is the mother of Jesus.

Mary is not the mother of God.

She gave birth to the flesh that God entered..

God has no mother. he was not created

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Biblical Mary:

Mother of God Lk 1:43

Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30

Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34

Spiritual Mother Jn 19:26-27 rev 12:17

happy to answer any questions ! Mark

Are you Catholic? I used to be Catholic. I gave it up because of things like this. But I'm not hostile to Catholics.
I know you are Christian and believe in Jesus. That's the main thing.
Please just focus on him and your relationship to Father God through him.

Baiting those from Protestant denominations with a deified Mary is only going to cause tension.
We already know that from centuries of infighting.
The Prossies believe all sorts of things about Catholics that aren't true. This kind of indtroduction feeds that.

In a place like this, can we possibly stick to areas of conversation that we have in common?
The time is getting late for all of us.

 

[DavidTree]

She was the earthly mother of god.The spirit the heavenly mother of god.

Mary was the lowly vessel of faith that God chose to come to earth in a body pre-ordained and prepared, NOT by Mary, but by God Himself.

Mary yielded her body unto the Coming of the Messiah as Prophesied by God in the Garden in Genesis.

Mary was a sinner in need of Salvation along with John the Baptist, Peter, Paul, John, Matthew Mark, Luke and the rest of the disciples.

We never hear of Mary again after the fulifillment of the Gospel. Jesus never exalted Mary above the Apostles.

We ONLY hear of the Savior = Jesus the CHRIST = the Resurrected LORD of Heaven and Earth and Who alone has the Keys to Death and Hades.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Biblical Mary:

Mother of God Lk 1:43

This should be clarified. Mary was the mother of the Lord Jesus, but not God the Father.

Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary

That's not what Genesis 3:15 says. Catholic tradition has made this up out of nothing.

Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus)

More Catholic false teaching. These scriptures clearly don't say what you say they mean.

Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

Wrong again.

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30

Mary was the mother of Jesus and He is our salvation. Luke 2:30 says: "for my eyes have seen your salvation." God is the author of our salvation. Mary was Jesus' mother here on earth, but she isn't the "mother of our salvation" in the sense you're saying.

Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21 Lk 1:31-34

This is too easy. All a person has to do is look up these scriptures and see what you're saying is nonsense. Jesus had siblings, produced by Mary and Joseph, so how could she be a perpetual virgin?

Spiritual Mother Jn 19:26-27 rev 12:17

Laughable.

I have a feeling my ignore button will be getting used pretty soon.

 

[CorrectiveLens]

Biblical Mary:

Mother of God Lk 1:43

Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30

Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34

Spiritual Mother Jn 19:26-27 rev 12:17

happy to answer any questions ! Mark

Matt 1: 25 (speaking about Joseph) " and did not know her (sex) till she had brought forth her first born Son." Mary was not a perpetual virgin.

 

[Edify]

I know you are Christian and believe in Jesus. That's the main thing.

True catholics aren't christians because of their open rebellion in their doctrine. Such rebellion when they could read their own bible that states the truth is unacceptable. It would surprise you to know that many differences in Protestant doctrine is because of catholicism. It is a terrible thing that many denominations don't believe Act 2 is for them because of 3rd or 4th century catholic church doctrine.
Hellish, it is.

 

[Edify]

Is Mary the mother of God/Jesus, an enigma for many?

No. God has no beginning or end. No mother.
Search the scriptures. There is no life in someone who refuses to face the truth.
I don't dislike you because you're lost, for God loves the whole world. But I do desire for you to accept the biblical Jesus as savior & Lord who He alone is the true lawgiver. It's His words that matter, not the catholic church which is no church at all.

 

[ResidentAlien]

t is a terrible thing that many denominations don't believe Act 2 is for them because of 3rd or 4th century catholic church doctrine.
Hellish, it is.

Catholic doctrine never persuaded me Acts 2 isn't for me. All the fake and phony signs and wonders is what persuaded me. Hellish indeed.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

True catholics aren't christians because of their open rebellion in their doctrine. Such rebellion when they could read their own bible that states the truth is unacceptable. It would surprise you to know that many differences in Protestant doctrine is because of catholicism. It is a terrible thing that many denominations don't believe Act 2 is for them because of 3rd or 4th century catholic church doctrine.
Hellish, it is.

You have no authority to say Catholics are not Christian. Perhaps you should repent of the hatred you have learned.

 

[Dino246]

Jesus put Mary on the same level as all the saints.

Yes; she was nobody special.

 

[Edify]

Catholic doctrine never persuaded me Acts 2 isn't for me. All the fake and phony signs and wonders is what persuaded me. Indeed, Hellish.

I agree that phony signs & wonders are of the Devil. Satan has a phony system that tries to reflect everything God teaches & does thru His church.
The real point is, If it wasn't for the church, Satan wouldn't have his own version, period.
Satan is the religious wanna-be, the copy-cat of all that is God's.

In the last days, the Bible speaks that false prophets will be everywhere. Why? Because Christ is the same yesterday, today, & forever.
His blessings hasn't changed. His Word hasn't changed. His judgment hasn't changed.

Since you believe otherwise I will be waiting for all your scriptural examples saying so.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

You say that 'Flesh begets flesh only'. Apparantly you don't understand the nature of Jesus, he was both God and Man and, try as you like, that nature is inseparable. And you are wrong again when you say that Christ was the seed of David. According to Scripture, Christ was the seed of the Holy Spirit in Mary. For a senior member you don't seem to know too much.

According to scripture he was the seed of the woman. He is unique.

 

[SophieT]

Yes; she was nobody special.

ouch

I understand why you are saying this, but you have gone a little too far

the angel said she was highly favored of God

And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!”
Luke 1:28

certainly not making the case for anything beyond what scripture states...and no, I do not think every single Christian is highly favored by God because they are saved (heard that teaching somewhere, and I'm like whaaa?)

that's all folks

 

[ResidentAlien]

I agree that phony signs & wonders are of the Devil. Satan has a phony system that tries to reflect everything God teaches & does thru His church.

Arguing doctrine is pointless because for every scripture I post someone else will have another refuting it.

I've never seen what I would call a true miraculous sign or wonder. All I've seen are fake ones. So based on my experience, 100% of so-called signs and wonders are false. Not genuine signs that were done by Satan, outright fakes. If I ever saw a true one I might think differently. I'm not a cessationist, I'm open to the possibility; but so far all I've ever seen are con-men and women.