Vaccination?

[Nehemiah6]

No credible source suggests that millions of people have died from vaccines.

Are you seriously suggesting that there are any "credible official sources" for anything related to COVID? Or have your swallowed the Kool-Aid dispensed by the lying media and the deceiving public health agencies and politicians?

And are your aware the both VAERS and Eudravigilance are actually UNDER-REPORTING deaths and adverse effects from vaccines? Doctors and nurses are being asked to not report these cases, so that the bogus vaccines can continually be touted as the elixer for the whole world.

And further are you aware that when fear-mongering over coronavirus was all the rage, COVID deaths were being massively OVER-REPORTED to create fear and panic? Even CDC has publicly admitted that only about 6% of those deaths were directly due to coronavirus, the rest being due to co-morbidities. Even Deborah Birx, one of the co-conspirators publicly admitted that at least 30% of those deaths were falsely over-reported.

This has been a PLANDEMIC and a SCAMDEMIC from day one, and you have been scammed. Wake up and get the facts and the truth.

 

[Gideon300]

Are you messing with us? Nobody can be this dense.

Part of the whole point is that Twitter, Google, Facebook, YouTube, etc have been manipulating and censoring anything that presents evidence against the global narrative that the vaccine is the savior of the world.

Aside from that, the video speaks for itself.

I reiterate. You cannot be this daft and simple. So let us know this post of yours is just a joke and we can all have good laugh.

Funny how baseless conspiracy theories abound when all the powers of the internet are out to crush them. I just wish there was a vaccine against conspiracy theories. While all this energy goes into "the sky is falling" stuff, the real problems are being ignored. Chicken Little has infected the internet. The joke is on you.

 

[Aidan1]

Just going to throw this out here, and really do not care what kind of backlash it gets, because this thread has shown me how Satan has divided the church, and we all know a house divided WILL fall...and it saddens me immensely.

Had open heart surgery 17 years ago for a congenital heart defect, and in need of another surgery now. Blood leaks backwards into my heart, filling my lungs, which causes shortness of breath. There is fluid around the heart as well. As a result of the heart defect not being detected for many years before it was, my heart became enlarged, and now 17 years later is extremely enlarged. My lungs are also scarred, and my pulmonologist believes exposure to mold is suspect. So there are 2 major health issues facing me at 55 years of age. Have prayed (constantly) and asked God for discernment as to whether or not the shots are to be taken (for myself), and almost every time, "do not" is what is heard.

So let me ask, by my not taking these shots, am I guilty of not showing "love" to others? Am I guilty of being a self-centered jerk? Am I classified as "anti-vax" or a conspiracy theorist? A right-wing extremist? Am I to risk my life of further damage to my heart because of the shots? Am I just thinking of myself? (By the way, have 5 kids and 5 grandchildren). Sure, many have taken them and are fine; what about those that have taken them and are injured for life, or even dead? Am I supposed to take a chance and possibly give my life for who knows what?

And to be quite honest, the direction this thread has taken has shown me a LOT of the love of God's children here. Breaks my heart actually...

Have more to say honestly, but this will do.

Well said, the devil dont need the vaccine to divide children of God.
There are reasons why someone should not get the vaccine, this is right. And there is the hope that they also will not get the virus.
But the reasons you mentioned are not the point of the So called antivaxxers. The point is that they claime it is for depopulate the mankind, it is poison, or it is sin to take it.
For me who is working in hospital and see the Covidpatients these claimes are pure Desinformation and represents not the truth.
Even nobody could proof these claimes. This is misleading of people. How I can be quite about it?
Yes it is sad, that discussion is not possible without attacking the person when the facts gone out.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Which evidence?
That the vaccine depopulate the world?
That the vaccine is a lethal injection?
That the vaccine is poison?
What is the source of the virus? A lab in Wuhan? Till today this is not proofed.
What is the source of the vaccine? A lab in Wuhan? Several Labs in the world working to find a vaccine against Sars-coV-2

That through the Pandemie they way to controle m
People more then before is obvious.
I renember the movie: as a tief in the night from Billy Graham . The goverments of the world used the rapture of the church to build a controle system for the mankind.
The source of the Pandemie must not be planed, it could be by accident.
The future reveals it.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

I can't force you not to trust the wolf in sheep's clothing. You'll have to find out in your own time.

 

[John146]

Trump preached against Big Government but Covid and Vaccines began on his Watch.

Are you claiming Trump is for Big Government?
or
Do you think [if] Big Government was behind this, Trump, would have told us?
and
Since he did not tell us that, is it possible, you, [[believe in conspiracy theories]] over fact and reality?

Trump was deceived.

 

[John146]

Well said, the devil dont need the vaccine to divide children of God.
There are reasons why someone should not get the vaccine, this is right. And there is the hope that they also will not get the virus.
But the reasons you mentioned are not the point of the So called antivaxxers. The point is that they claime it is for depopulate the mankind, it is poison, or it is sin to take it.
For me who is working in hospital and see the Covidpatients these claimes are pure Desinformation and represents not the truth.
Even nobody could proof these claimes. This is misleading of people. How I can be quite about it?
Yes it is sad, that discussion is not possible without attacking the person when the facts gone out.

Why do you think is the purpose of COVID-19? Was it an accident? Was it purely for money?

 

[Godsgirl83]

How is telling those presenting a Death number, that compared to how many shots given, it's not even equal to a single one percent...going against God's Word?

How is explaining that Pfizer tested on Fetal Cells not used them as Vaccine Ingredients...going against God's Word?

How is saying, if You [want to] or [do not want to] get Vaxxed cool by me...going against the Word of God?

How is pointing out False Propaganda for being a LIE...going against the Word of God?

How is explaining a [Known Fact] that All Major Medications have been using the 1973 Cells like Pfizer did...going against God's Word?

Again anything I have to say about it

will only fall before blind eyes and deaf ears.

 

[Aidan1]

Are you seriously suggesting that there are any "credible official sources" for anything related to COVID? Or have your swallowed the Kool-Aid dispensed by the lying media and the deceiving public health agencies and politicians?

And are your aware the both VAERS and Eudravigilance are actually UNDER-REPORTING deaths and adverse effects from vaccines? Doctors and nurses are being asked to not report these cases, so that the bogus vaccines can continually be touted as the elixer for the whole world.

And further are you aware that when fear-mongering over coronavirus was all the rage, COVID deaths were being massively OVER-REPORTED to create fear and panic? Even CDC has publicly admitted that only about 6% of those deaths were directly due to coronavirus, the rest being due to co-morbidities. Even Deborah Birx, one of the co-conspirators publicly admitted that at least 30% of those deaths were falsely over-reported.

This has been a PLANDEMIC and a SCAMDEMIC from day one, and you have been scammed. Wake up and get the facts and the truth.

These are no facts and no truth. The numbers for germany which had vaccined and die are under 50 in the time from Dez.20 till 1.8.21
Out of over 54 000 000 full vaccined people.
It may be some more death, but not the numbers you Claimed as proof.
Why you dont go to the intensiv wards of the hospitals and ask which patients are under care with Covid. In germany around 89% of them are unvaccined. And there is a visible different between people who are vaccined and those which not, if they get Covid. This are facts!
In spreading false numbers and claimes, you are spreading fear and panic.
As Christian you have nothing to fear. Because our life is in Gods Hand.
To take vitamin C and good healthy food nothing is wrong. But it no solution against the Virus. Because the most people on our Planet have not the resources to get healthy food and planty vitamins. Which strenghten your immunsystem, but are no guarant that you will not get the virus and serious healths problems.

 

[gb9]

These are no facts and no truth. The numbers for germany which had vaccined and die are under 50 in the time from Dez.20 till 1.8.21
Out of over 54 000 000 full vaccined people.
It may be some more death, but not the numbers you Claimed as proof.
Why you dont go to the intensiv wards of the hospitals and ask which patients are under care with Covid. In germany around 89% of them are unvaccined. And there is a visible different between people who are vaccined and those which not, if they get Covid. This are facts!
In spreading false numbers and claimes, you are spreading fear and panic.
As Christian you have nothing to fear. Because our life is in Gods Hand.
To take vitamin C and good healthy food nothing is wrong. But it no solution against the Virus. Because the most people on our Planet have not the resources to get healthy food and planty vitamins. Which strenghten your immunsystem, but are no guarant that you will not get the virus and serious healths problems.

their is no guarantee that one will not get sick from anything.

it is sad that a person who works at a hospital says that a healthy immune system will not do anything to help or stop covid.

saying that because that is what certain governments and health industries say , just repeating that lie...

 

[Aidan1]

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

I can't force you not to trust the wolf in sheep's clothing. You'll have to find out in your own time.

Maby we have different views, from who is the Wolf. Paul warned the eldest of Ephesus, that the Wolfes will come out of the church.
But your right the future will reveal it.

 

[PennEd]

An Epidemic of the Vaccinated: Latest UK Data Shows Rate of Infection Among Vaxxed Exceeds Unvaxxed in Every Age Group Over 30


The covid infection rates among the vaccinated now exceed the unvaxxed in every age group over 30. you can grab raw data HERE.
This has CLEARLY become an epidemic of the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated.

It’s also clearly deteriorating by the week with spread shifting younger. (under 18 is mostly unvaxxed and school kids are being tested at outlandish levels especially if not vaccinated. The same spills into colleges to these two brackets have some pretty iffy data bias artifacts in them as a result. It’s testdemic with oversensitive PCR, not a pandemic of kids)​

 

[Aidan1]

their is no guarantee that one will not get sick from anything.

it is sad that a person who works at a hospital says that a healthy immune system will not do anything to help or stop covid.

saying that because that is what certain governments and health industries say , just repeating that lie...

If i would say that only taking vitamin c and healthy food would avoid that you will got Covid, i would lie!! These things can support your immunesystem.
And again the most people on our Planet have no resources to have healthy food and vitamins. Also it is known that the body will not take the vitamin C if he dont need it. So it helpes only if you have a lack on vitamin C.

 

[DavidTree]

An Epidemic of the Vaccinated: Latest UK Data Shows Rate of Infection Among Vaxxed Exceeds Unvaxxed in Every Age Group Over 30

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The covid infection rates among the vaccinated now exceed the unvaxxed in every age group over 30. you can grab raw data HERE.
This has CLEARLY become an epidemic of the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated.

It’s also clearly deteriorating by the week with spread shifting younger. (under 18 is mostly unvaxxed and school kids are being tested at outlandish levels especially if not vaccinated. The same spills into colleges to these two brackets have some pretty iffy data bias artifacts in them as a result. It’s testdemic with oversensitive PCR, not a pandemic of kids)​

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Big Pharma and Government assisted Experiment - what could possibly go wrong???

Vaxx Vaxx
ain't no Cracker Jacks
they inject it in your arm
and say it will cause no harm
they take your health
and turn it into their wealth
next day you know it
you realize you've just blown it
Black Goo is now inside of you
not the stuff men call chew
Graphine Oxide they seek to hide
It connects to the cell towers outside
Let's pump that 5G in your ear
it will make you crazy
so you better hear
this not from God nor His Plan
but sin that comes
from within a man

 

[Anthony55]

I've read this Disclaimer before and there is also a Fine Print I see not listed in Your Post.

That Fine Print reads: People just randomly call in their ailments and reactions to the Vaccine. And where the Problem lies at, until a Report is Verified, it remains listed on the Site like a [Real Case Scenario]. And then it goes on to explain that almost 50% Cases Listed end up as being a False/Red Flag.

So that means, you are [never] able to keep a consistent Data Base that is Factual and Updated. The Numbers will change by the hour and one minute it will read as Tragic and the next hour as Normal. But no one is paying attention to the Process and only reporting things that have not been Verified yet.

Thank you. I copied it from a article when I looked up millions die from vaccine. I understand the difference of opinions from this thread as there are difference in beliefs. There's 16 min. video on You Tube, "It's Impossible to Put Chips In a Vaccine." I didn't watch it because it's a no brainer. Also about the fetal matter that was used...
Why are fetal cells used to make vaccines? Historical fetal cell lines were derived in the 1960’s and 1970’s from two elective abortions and have been used to create vaccines for diseases such as hepatitis A, rubella, and rabies. Abortions from which fetal cells were obtained were elective and were not done for the purpose of vaccine development. The fetal cell lines being used to produce some of the potential COVID-19 vaccines are from two sources: ● HEK-293: A kidney cell line that was isolated from a fetus in 1973 (undisclosed origin, from either a spontaneous miscarriage or an elective abortion) ● PER.C6: A retinal cell line that was isolated from an aborted fetus in 1985 Any vaccine that relies on these historic cell lines will not require nor solicit new abortions.
I believe they use the cells from the past by multiplying them. Thanks to Henrietta Lacks....
Henrietta Lacks (born Loretta Pleasant; August 1, 1920 – October 4, 1951) was an African-American woman whose cancer cells are the source of the HeLa cell line, the first immortalized human cell line and one of the most important cell lines in medical research. An immortalized cell line reproduces indefinitely under specific conditions, and the HeLa cell line continues to be a source of invaluable medical data to the present day. Lacks was the unwitting source of these cells from a tumor biopsied during treatment for cervical cancer at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland, U.S., in 1951. These cells were then cultured by George Otto Gey who created the cell line known as HeLa, which is still used for medical research. As was then the practice, no consent was required to culture the cells obtained from Lacks's treatment. Consistent with contemporary standards, neither she nor her family were compensated for their extraction or use. Even though some information about the origins of HeLa's immortalized cell lines was known to researchers after 1970, the Lacks family was not made aware of the line's existence until 1975. With knowledge of the cell line's genetic provenance becoming public, its use for medical research and for commercial purposes continues to raise concerns about privacy and patients' rights.
These are the HeLa cell line.. He(Henrietta) La(Lacks). So people need to understand that they dont need to use thousands of of aborted children. Just the two mentioned in the article. I want Everyone to know that I am PRO-LIFE 100% and I am just the messenger so dont kill me with words.
Gods Blessings

 

[Aidan1]

Why do you think is the purpose of COVID-19? Was it an accident? Was it purely for money?

Well, I have no proof for both. But I believe it is in Gods plan for the world. We are in the last time, and what the bible tells us about the future will come. Never mankind was so near that things which are mentioned in rev. 13 could come true.
Obviously the Pandemie pushes this. Without the Pandemie we would have not such efforts to use the Internet and Digital Media.

 

[Anthony55]

Are you seriously suggesting that there are any "credible official sources" for anything related to COVID? Or have your swallowed the Kool-Aid dispensed by the lying media and the deceiving public health agencies and politicians?

And are your aware the both VAERS and Eudravigilance are actually UNDER-REPORTING deaths and adverse effects from vaccines? Doctors and nurses are being asked to not report these cases, so that the bogus vaccines can continually be touted as the elixer for the whole world.

And further are you aware that when fear-mongering over coronavirus was all the rage, COVID deaths were being massively OVER-REPORTED to create fear and panic? Even CDC has publicly admitted that only about 6% of those deaths were directly due to coronavirus, the rest being due to co-morbidities. Even Deborah Birx, one of the co-conspirators publicly admitted that at least 30% of those deaths were falsely over-reported.

This has been a PLANDEMIC and a SCAMDEMIC from day one, and you have been scammed. Wake up and get the facts and the truth.

First of all I would appreciate it if you would voice your opinion with the knowledge you have so people can learn. Everyone on these threads have their own opinions and we listen and then research. Thus Iron sharpens Iron. You don't need to slap people in the face with sarcasm and be the Accuser. We have enough attacks from the enemy he don't need your help. And if you think your reference to Jim Jones and Jamestown is humorous it is in poor taste my friend. You say Wake up which really means Think like me believe what I believe. I see a lot of frustration in your thread because you need to capitalize and use bold print. Just calm down Brother. Where is the spirit of meekness.

Gods Blessings

 

[Anthony55]

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention hasn’t drastically reduced the number of deaths attributable to COVID-19, but posts making that bogus claim have been circulating widely —
But that’s not what the CDC information says.
In weekly updates provided on the CDC’s website, the agency includes information on additional conditions present in patients who died with COVID-19. These other illnesses or conditions found to be present in a patient are called comorbidities. The agency also includes a chart detailing the number of patients with each additional condition.
For the week referenced in the claim, the CDC explained that the chart “shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.”
That means that 6% of those who died with COVID-19 through Aug. 15 didn’t have any other reported conditions.
It does not mean that the CDC has “quietly updated” the number of deaths associated with COVID-19 to a fraction of what had been reported. It’s also not new information; the agency has been providing the same information since May.
But that’s not what the CDC information says.
In weekly updates provided on the CDC’s website, the agency includes information on additional conditions present in patients who died with COVID-19. These other illnesses or conditions found to be present in a patient are called comorbidities. The agency also includes a chart detailing the number of patients with each additional condition.
For the week referenced in the claim, the CDC explained that the chart “shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.”
That means that 6% of those who died with COVID-19 through Aug. 15 didn’t have any other reported conditions.
It does not mean that the CDC has “quietly updated” the number of deaths associated with COVID-19 to a fraction of what had been reported. It’s also not new information; the agency has been providing the same information since May.
But that’s not what the CDC information says.
In weekly updates provided on the CDC’s website, the agency includes information on additional conditions present in patients who died with COVID-19. These other illnesses or conditions found to be present in a patient are called comorbidities. The agency also includes a chart detailing the number of patients with each additional condition.
For the week referenced in the claim, the CDC explained that the chart “shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.”
That means that 6% of those who died with COVID-19 through Aug. 15 didn’t have any other reported conditions.
It does not mean that the CDC has “quietly updated” the number of deaths associated with COVID-19 to a fraction of what had been reported. It’s also not new information; the agency has been providing the same information since May.

 

[AandW]

Again anything I have to say about it

Because you [believe] anything you say i will discredit, suddenly equals, to disagreeing with the Word of God?
Are you telling me, [your Opinion] is [as equal] to God's Word?

 

[AandW]

Thank you. I copied it from a article when I looked up millions die from vaccine. I understand the difference of opinions from this thread as there are difference in beliefs. There's 16 min. video on You Tube, "It's Impossible to Put Chips In a Vaccine." I didn't watch it because it's a no brainer. Also about the fetal matter that was used...
Why are fetal cells used to make vaccines? Historical fetal cell lines were derived in the 1960’s and 1970’s from two elective abortions and have been used to create vaccines for diseases such as hepatitis A, rubella, and rabies. Abortions from which fetal cells were obtained were elective and were not done for the purpose of vaccine development. The fetal cell lines being used to produce some of the potential COVID-19 vaccines are from two sources: ● HEK-293: A kidney cell line that was isolated from a fetus in 1973 (undisclosed origin, from either a spontaneous miscarriage or an elective abortion) ● PER.C6: A retinal cell line that was isolated from an aborted fetus in 1985 Any vaccine that relies on these historic cell lines will not require nor solicit new abortions.
I believe they use the cells from the past by multiplying them. Thanks to Henrietta Lacks....
Henrietta Lacks (born Loretta Pleasant; August 1, 1920 – October 4, 1951) was an African-American woman whose cancer cells are the source of the HeLa cell line, the first immortalized human cell line and one of the most important cell lines in medical research. An immortalized cell line reproduces indefinitely under specific conditions, and the HeLa cell line continues to be a source of invaluable medical data to the present day. Lacks was the unwitting source of these cells from a tumor biopsied during treatment for cervical cancer at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland, U.S., in 1951. These cells were then cultured by George Otto Gey who created the cell line known as HeLa, which is still used for medical research. As was then the practice, no consent was required to culture the cells obtained from Lacks's treatment. Consistent with contemporary standards, neither she nor her family were compensated for their extraction or use. Even though some information about the origins of HeLa's immortalized cell lines was known to researchers after 1970, the Lacks family was not made aware of the line's existence until 1975. With knowledge of the cell line's genetic provenance becoming public, its use for medical research and for commercial purposes continues to raise concerns about privacy and patients' rights.
These are the HeLa cell line.. He(Henrietta) La(Lacks). So people need to understand that they dont need to use thousands of of aborted children. Just the two mentioned in the article. I want Everyone to know that I am PRO-LIFE 100% and I am just the messenger so dont kill me with words.
Gods Blessings

Amen!

 

[AandW]

An Epidemic of the Vaccinated: Latest UK Data Shows Rate of Infection Among Vaxxed Exceeds Unvaxxed in Every Age Group Over 30

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The covid infection rates among the vaccinated now exceed the unvaxxed in every age group over 30. you can grab raw data HERE.
This has CLEARLY become an epidemic of the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated.

It’s also clearly deteriorating by the week with spread shifting younger. (under 18 is mostly unvaxxed and school kids are being tested at outlandish levels especially if not vaccinated. The same spills into colleges to these two brackets have some pretty iffy data bias artifacts in them as a result. It’s testdemic with oversensitive PCR, not a pandemic of kids)​

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I read this and agree 10 trillion %


But, it's solely based upon this New Delta Variant.

It proves the Vaccine is [WORKING] on the previous Variants, but, it is a 50/50 deposition with Delta.

But is that shocking?
Knowing the Delta Variant began [AFTER] the Vaccine for the first 2 Variants was created!

It's quite clear this Vaccine is good for the first 2 Variants, [but] it was not made for the Delta Variant and why it is only working 50% of the time.