Vaccination?

[Jocund]

What other Methods are there to fight Bio-Weapons that are Air-Bourne?

The real way to end it is lock yourself up for 2 years until this dies from having no Humans to feed off of!

Do we want to go underground for 2 years or try a something to stay outside?

@AandW

Removing comorbidity factors would probably be a strategy that makes more sense, especially if the vaccine has an unknown efficacy against new variants of concern. General health, fitness, and immuno response is the only course of action that does make sense to universally ensure reduced fatality rates and adverse effects. This is true irrespective of vaccine usage.

Why would the Chinese bomb themselves? They have enough troubles as it is. Why would they hit themselves with a weapon? You use weapons on the enemy.

Your assertion makes no sense. It may have been an accidental release. What fool would go the bank where they are well known to rob it? Whatever you think of China, they are not fools. They've been outsmarting the USA and the Western world since Nixon decided to engage in "ping pong diplomacy". The Chinese have consistently the best table tennis players. And they've been using the Western world's greed and foolishness to become the second biggest economy in the world.

@Gideon

With any hypothetical contagious bioweapon you would want to make sure that your own valued population is protected. This could be through supplements to guard against the effects (vaccines, etc.), or by designing it in such a way that the genetic profiles of interest are not critically affected (or entirely unaffected, when possible).

To support such a theory, one would need evidence that not everyone is affected equally. Interestingly, the Chinese population has a significantly higher percentage of B type blood, and Western countries have a significantly higher percentage of A type blood. Covid-19 allegedly infects more effectively on A type blood (https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210303/why-blood-type-may-matter-for-covid-infection). Perhaps it is a coincidence, but perhaps it is the tip of the iceberg of other yet to be discovered characteristic features of the virus that could be targeted at nonresidents of China. In either case we've seen concepts that are consistent with a bioweapon speculation even if there is room for opposing speculation that it isn't a bioweapon. Before the covid story, a scientist in China got into hot water for creating genetically engineered humans with CRISPR technology. It would not be out of character to have other rogue elements that have contributed to unethical activities, up to and including a bioweapon targeted based on genetics. It is also possible that a third party did so to frame China in a bad light. The conclusion isn't clear, but the scenario remains a possibility.

 

[Aidan1]

The vaccine is part of this. I have shown you evidence. You have brushed it asside.
What you are willfully refusing to see is that the virus and the vaccine are from the same source.
This is a classic 'order from chaos' scenario.

1. Manufacture crisis.
2. Promote panic.
3. Offer solution in exchange for control.
4. Repeat until absolute control is achieved.

Textbook

Which evidence?
That the vaccine depopulate the world?
That the vaccine is a lethal injection?
That the vaccine is poison?
What is the source of the virus? A lab in Wuhan? Till today this is not proofed.
What is the source of the vaccine? A lab in Wuhan? Several Labs in the world working to find a vaccine against Sars-coV-2

That through the Pandemie they way to controle m
People more then before is obvious.
I renember the movie: as a tief in the night from Billy Graham . The goverments of the world used the rapture of the church to build a controle system for the mankind.
The source of the Pandemie must not be planed, it could be by accident.
The future reveals it.

 

[Aidan1]

This is probably one of the most ludicrous statements in this connection. There is nothing safe about the Pfizer "vaccine" (read bogus vaccine).
Pfizer Whistleblower: Close To 200,000 Have Died From The Jabs
https://principia-scientific.com/pfizer-whistleblower-close-to-200000-have-died-from-the-jabs/

How much the whistleblower got to tell this?

 

[DavidTree]

@AandW

Removing comorbidity factors would probably be a strategy that makes more sense, especially if the vaccine has an unknown efficacy against new variants of concern. General health, fitness, and immuno response is the only course of action that does make sense to universally ensure reduced fatality rates and adverse effects. This is true irrespective of vaccine usage.



@Gideon

With any hypothetical contagious bioweapon you would want to make sure that your own valued population is protected. This could be through supplements to guard against the effects (vaccines, etc.), or by designing it in such a way that the genetic profiles of interest are not critically affected (or entirely unaffected, when possible).

To support such a theory, one would need evidence that not everyone is affected equally. Interestingly, the Chinese population has a significantly higher percentage of B type blood, and Western countries have a significantly higher percentage of A type blood. Covid-19 allegedly infects more effectively on A type blood (https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210303/why-blood-type-may-matter-for-covid-infection). Perhaps it is a coincidence, but perhaps it is the tip of the iceberg of other yet to be discovered characteristic features of the virus that could be targeted at nonresidents of China. In either case we've seen concepts that are consistent with a bioweapon speculation even if there is room for opposing speculation that it isn't a bioweapon. Before the covid story, a scientist in China got into hot water for creating genetically engineered humans with CRISPR technology. It would not be out of character to have other rogue elements that have contributed to unethical activities, up to and including a bioweapon targeted based on genetics. It is also possible that a third party did so to frame China in a bad light. The conclusion isn't clear, but the scenario remains a possibility.

Do you know of the 'Georgia Stones'?

 

[49]

Just going to throw this out here, and really do not care what kind of backlash it gets, because this thread has shown me how Satan has divided the church, and we all know a house divided WILL fall...and it saddens me immensely.

Had open heart surgery 17 years ago for a congenital heart defect, and in need of another surgery now. Blood leaks backwards into my heart, filling my lungs, which causes shortness of breath. There is fluid around the heart as well. As a result of the heart defect not being detected for many years before it was, my heart became enlarged, and now 17 years later is extremely enlarged. My lungs are also scarred, and my pulmonologist believes exposure to mold is suspect. So there are 2 major health issues facing me at 55 years of age. Have prayed (constantly) and asked God for discernment as to whether or not the shots are to be taken (for myself), and almost every time, "do not" is what is heard.

So let me ask, by my not taking these shots, am I guilty of not showing "love" to others? Am I guilty of being a self-centered jerk? Am I classified as "anti-vax" or a conspiracy theorist? A right-wing extremist? Am I to risk my life of further damage to my heart because of the shots? Am I just thinking of myself? (By the way, have 5 kids and 5 grandchildren). Sure, many have taken them and are fine; what about those that have taken them and are injured for life, or even dead? Am I supposed to take a chance and possibly give my life for who knows what?

And to be quite honest, the direction this thread has taken has shown me a LOT of the love of God's children here. Breaks my heart actually...

Have more to say honestly, but this will do.

 

[AandW]

Probably way more than that. Many are being kept a secret and cause of death unknown or blamed on something else. The hypocrisy is running wild.

And it Still does not add up to a full Percent of a Percent compared to 230,000,000 shots given with no side effects or issues.

 

[DavidTree]

By listening to God's still small voice , you are alive today.

My friend who had zero heart problems died after his second jab.

Healthy young adults and children suffering from heart problems after one or two jabs

You mention satan causing division, it takes two to tango, and satan needed a listening ear in the Garden.

My personal choice is to seek the Lord on all things, especially today more then ever, and to distrust those who hate God.

While Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?”
Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you.
Matthew 24

 

[DavidTree]

And it Still does not add up to a full Percent of a Percent compared to 230,000,000 shots given with no side effects or issues.

The Agenda is an Experiment: Big Gov and Big Pharma are not required to give you a full accounting of how many different kinds of combinations of drugs were injected including the many placebos.

You signed a waiver whereby you agreed to give your body to them for experimental purposes.

 

[rayzor]

Probably way more than that. Many are being kept a secret and cause of death unknown or blamed on something else. The hypocrisy is running wild.

Lies

 

[DavidTree]

Lies

Dear Brother,
what he said is true. I and others have received clear testimony directly from doctors and nurses and from the families of loved ones who have died after the jab.

 

[rayzor]

Dear Brother,
what he said is true. I and others have received clear testimony directly from doctors and nurses and from the families of loved ones who have died after the jab.

As

Lies

DavidTree as a generalization what's their motive? I mean the one's doing the killing?,,,prophet?

 

[DavidTree]

As

DavidTree as a generalization what's their motive? I mean the one's doing the killing?,,,prophet?

Hello Brother and Friend,

They have a number of motives, and the Number #1 motive is (drum roll) MONEY

Big Pharma and Gov have a track record of hiding negative results.

Motive #2 - This is an Experiment. Which means they have ulterior motives we are not privy to.

Motive #3 - Tracking of Souls = Revelation 18:11-13
And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, because there is no one left to buy their cargo— cargo of gold, silver, precious stones, and pearls; of fine linen, purple, silk, and scarlet; of all kinds of citron wood and every article of ivory, precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble; of cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, and frankincense; of wine, olive oil, fine flour, and wheat; of cattle, sheep, horses, and chariots; of slaves and souls of men.

This is why God calls out to His People - now, today

Then I heard another voice from heaven say:
“Come out of her, My people,
so that you will not share in her sins
or contract any of her plagues.

Revelation 18


Peace and love to you Rayzor

 

[AandW]

The Agenda is an Experiment: Big Gov and Big Pharma are not required to give you a full accounting of how many different kinds of combinations of drugs were injected including the many placebos.

You signed a waiver whereby you agreed to give your body to them for experimental purposes.

Trump preached against Big Government but Covid and Vaccines began on his Watch.

Are you claiming Trump is for Big Government?
or
Do you think [if] Big Government was behind this, Trump, would have told us?
and
Since he did not tell us that, is it possible, you, [[believe in conspiracy theories]] over fact and reality?

 

[rayzor]

Hello Brother and Friend,

They have a number of motives, and the Number #1 motive is (drum roll) MONEY

Big Pharma and Gov have a track record of hiding negative results.

Motive #2 - This is an Experiment. Which means they have ulterior motives we are not privy to.

Motive #3 - Tracking of Souls = Revelation 18:11-13
And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, because there is no one left to buy their cargo— cargo of gold, silver, precious stones, and pearls; of fine linen, purple, silk, and scarlet; of all kinds of citron wood and every article of ivory, precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble; of cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, and frankincense; of wine, olive oil, fine flour, and wheat; of cattle, sheep, horses, and chariots; of slaves and souls of men.

This is why God calls out to His People - now, today

Then I heard another voice from heaven say:
“Come out of her, My people,
so that you will not share in her sins
or contract any of her plagues.

Revelation 18


Peace and love to you Rayzor

Rev 9:10
David tree it is still a lie. The tail bearer and it last more then 5 month and sometime hurts less then a scorpion string.But in other ways it sometimes hurts more.We are born into it,,because we are born into it = sin.The more you know the more it will hurt,,to a point.There's still grace,,but your most likely find yourself alone for a time.Your find most things to be fake and feel like your in a fish tank.,,,peace.

 

[DavidTree]

Trump preached against Big Government but Covid and Vaccines began on his Watch.

Are you claiming Trump is for Big Government?
or
Do you think [if] Big Government was behind this, Trump, would have told us?
and
Since he did not tell us that, is it possible, you, [[believe in conspiracy theories]] over fact and reality?

I have told all, from the beginning, the Left and the Right are both involved - backdoor dealings.

Trumps job is to distract and keep everyone hoping for a come back win, while the Real Agenda is driven forward, which Trump was part of with Operation Warp Speed.

What is the Trump slogan right now being presented - Save America campaign

America needs saving - from the LORD - thru the only way that has ever worked - Repentance and returning to Him who called us out of darkness.

The Left and Right are BOTH involved.

 

[Godsgirl83]

I suppose, if Your Doctor prescribed Heart Meds to limit Heart Attacks, that person has a Choice to believe the Doctor or Ignore the Advice.

But I am [[not here trying]] to Convince you to get VAXXED!

I am just looking for the false Propaganda and trying to explain why it is False!

But my Efforts are not for You to get Vaxxed, my Efforts are for You to make a Choice on TRUTH!

There are more than a few replies that have gone through my mind to answer this with.
But I'm not going to take the time needed to type them out, they will only fall before blind eyes and deaf ears.
Your efforts are in vain; for you say that:

my Efforts are for You to make a Choice on TRUTH!

but the "truth" you promote is NOT truth from God's word.

 

[Anthony55]

This is probably one of the most ludicrous statements in this connection. There is nothing safe about the Pfizer "vaccine" (read bogus vaccine).
Pfizer Whistleblower: Close To 200,000 Have Died From The Jabs
https://principia-scientific.com/pfizer-whistleblower-close-to-200000-have-died-from-the-jabs/

A report written by anti-vaccine advocates on a website called Stop World Control made claims that the COVID-19 vaccine has killed millions of people.
This report cites sources such as the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, an official database to which anyone can report any kind of adverse health event following a vaccine. VAERS reports are not analyzed for accuracy, and may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate or coincidental. Europe’s EudraVigilance is a similar system to VAERS and issues the same warning about its own reports. No credible source suggests that millions of people have died from vaccines.
We rate this claim Pants on Fire!

 

[AandW]

There are more than a few replies that have gone through my mind to answer this with.
But I'm not going to take the time needed to type them out, they will only fall before blind eyes and deaf ears.
Your efforts are in vain; for you say that:

but the "truth" you promote is NOT truth from God's word.

How is telling those presenting a Death number, that compared to how many shots given, it's not even equal to a single one percent...going against God's Word?

How is explaining that Pfizer tested on Fetal Cells not used them as Vaccine Ingredients...going against God's Word?

How is saying, if You [want to] or [do not want to] get Vaxxed cool by me...going against the Word of God?

How is pointing out False Propaganda for being a LIE...going against the Word of God?

How is explaining a [Known Fact] that All Major Medications have been using the 1973 Cells like Pfizer did...going against God's Word?

 

[AandW]

I have told all, from the beginning, the Left and the Right are both involved - backdoor dealings.

Trumps job is to distract and keep everyone hoping for a come back win, while the Real Agenda is driven forward, which Trump was part of with Operation Warp Speed.

What is the Trump slogan right now being presented - Save America campaign

America needs saving - from the LORD - thru the only way that has ever worked - Repentance and returning to Him who called us out of darkness.

The Left and Right are BOTH involved.

I can buy this

1) But we OWN guns and have More Guns than the Military/Police total.

2) Our Volunteer Freedom Groups are made up of hundred thousands plus Retired/Ex Military/Police/Trained Citizens in Combat Warfare and Weaponry.

3) And the Consciousness of the American Men and Women representing the Military [IS NOWHERE CLOSE] to turning on their personal Family and American Fellow Citizens THEY HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO PROTECT!


So, in Reality, we are literally NoWhere Close to that Day and Time.

Maybe by the End of Biden's Term or into the Next Presidents Term, but we are NOT there to be so P*A*R*A*N*O*I*D*!

If the Government turned on us [Right Now this Moment in Time], they would get lit up like no tomorrow, as a whole Nation would come together over that!!

 

[AandW]

A report written by anti-vaccine advocates on a website called Stop World Control made claims that the COVID-19 vaccine has killed millions of people.
This report cites sources such as the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, an official database to which anyone can report any kind of adverse health event following a vaccine. VAERS reports are not analyzed for accuracy, and may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate or coincidental. Europe’s EudraVigilance is a similar system to VAERS and issues the same warning about its own reports. No credible source suggests that millions of people have died from vaccines.
We rate this claim Pants on Fire!

I've read this Disclaimer before and there is also a Fine Print I see not listed in Your Post.

That Fine Print reads: People just randomly call in their ailments and reactions to the Vaccine. And where the Problem lies at, until a Report is Verified, it remains listed on the Site like a [Real Case Scenario]. And then it goes on to explain that almost 50% Cases Listed end up as being a False/Red Flag.

So that means, you are [never] able to keep a consistent Data Base that is Factual and Updated. The Numbers will change by the hour and one minute it will read as Tragic and the next hour as Normal. But no one is paying attention to the Process and only reporting things that have not been Verified yet.