How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church
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Those PLURAL "virginS" are not the "Bride [SINGULAR]"
--"and they that were ready went in with [G3326 - accompanying (NOT G4862 UNIONed-with!!)] him TO THE WEDDING FEAST/SUPPER" v.10 (not "the MARRIAGE")
[note the completely DISTINCT *WITH*-word used of US elsewhere... G4862 "UNIONed-with"... which is NOT the "with"-word USED HERE in Matt25 about the PLURAL VIRGINS!]
[and in a different post...]
2Cor11:2 the "A CHASTE VIRGIN [SINGULAR]"... who will be "PRESENTed" [G3936]!!
Those PLURAL "virginS" are not the "Bride [SINGULAR]"
--"and they that were ready went in with [G3326 - accompanying (NOT G4862 UNIONed-with!!)] him TO THE WEDDING FEAST/SUPPER" v.10 (not "the MARRIAGE")
[note the completely DISTINCT *WITH*-word used of US elsewhere... G4862 "UNIONed-with"... which is NOT the "with"-word USED HERE in Matt25 about the PLURAL VIRGINS!]
[and in a different post...]
2Cor11:2 the "A CHASTE VIRGIN [SINGULAR]"... who will be "PRESENTed" [G3936]!!
Oh not at all the most vivid picture our rapture is Revelations itself. Starting with the first church Ephesus, Christ talks about coming back. He has a message of such to each church to Philadelphia. Save for Smyrna. To which they are gonna be martyred so their is no message of him coming. Why they are dead.
So let me be clear is not doctrinal by any means but for me to understand and to get a grasp it makes sense. We know he only had positives things for two churches and since I am pretrib it makes sense for me cause if I look at their status of the two. Smyrna and Philadelphia, one is dead and one is alive so to me makes sense ok why to one he talks about coming and to the other is no mention.
Christ also mentions the crown of life to Smyrna and a crown to Philadelphia. I find it is the same crown the crown of life. Reason being James says, Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
So I find that the crown would be the crown of life since Christ says to Philadelphia, in Rev 3:10-11, Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. 11Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
Anyway getting back to every church save Smyrna their is a message he is coming. To which he says to Philadelphia, Behold I come quickly. Then to Laodicea instead of Christ saying I am coming he says I stand at the door and knock. So after saying he is coming the language switches and is now one of I am here.
The majority of teaching on this is Christ is on the outside looking in and knocking to get their attention. I find that can't be so because it does not fit. Christ clearly says over and over he is coming so why drop that message suddenly and change it up all together.
As well Christ when he told John to write the things he sees. Christ lets it be known he walks amongst the candlesticks. He is present in the churches. As well as we know that where two or more ae gathered there he is in the midst. So I can't buy the message he is on the outside looking in since he is the author of the church and he has already said he is in the midst of the church.
So to me this is where he comes down because again the language is I am here. Then in chapter four says come up hither. Which then chapter 5 makes a big deal how Christ alone is worthy to open the seals. Which seal one introduces the anti-christ and is the start of the tribulation. So I find Rev lays it all out and does so chronologically.
I find that our rapture is verse 20 to verse one of chapter 4.
Matthew 24 and 25 is not for us or the church it is about the 2nd coming and we are not raptured at the 2nd coming so I find that the 10 virgins is not the church but again a expounding by Christ in how I laid out concerning the message Christ had told the Jews during his ministry and also Ezekiel 34.
So let me be clear is not doctrinal by any means but for me to understand and to get a grasp it makes sense. We know he only had positives things for two churches and since I am pretrib it makes sense for me cause if I look at their status of the two. Smyrna and Philadelphia, one is dead and one is alive so to me makes sense ok why to one he talks about coming and to the other is no mention.
Christ also mentions the crown of life to Smyrna and a crown to Philadelphia. I find it is the same crown the crown of life. Reason being James says, Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
So I find that the crown would be the crown of life since Christ says to Philadelphia, in Rev 3:10-11, Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. 11Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
Anyway getting back to every church save Smyrna their is a message he is coming. To which he says to Philadelphia, Behold I come quickly. Then to Laodicea instead of Christ saying I am coming he says I stand at the door and knock. So after saying he is coming the language switches and is now one of I am here.
The majority of teaching on this is Christ is on the outside looking in and knocking to get their attention. I find that can't be so because it does not fit. Christ clearly says over and over he is coming so why drop that message suddenly and change it up all together.
As well Christ when he told John to write the things he sees. Christ lets it be known he walks amongst the candlesticks. He is present in the churches. As well as we know that where two or more ae gathered there he is in the midst. So I can't buy the message he is on the outside looking in since he is the author of the church and he has already said he is in the midst of the church.
So to me this is where he comes down because again the language is I am here. Then in chapter four says come up hither. Which then chapter 5 makes a big deal how Christ alone is worthy to open the seals. Which seal one introduces the anti-christ and is the start of the tribulation. So I find Rev lays it all out and does so chronologically.
I find that our rapture is verse 20 to verse one of chapter 4.
Matthew 24 and 25 is not for us or the church it is about the 2nd coming and we are not raptured at the 2nd coming so I find that the 10 virgins is not the church but again a expounding by Christ in how I laid out concerning the message Christ had told the Jews during his ministry and also Ezekiel 34.
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Protection through trials and tribulations ON THE EARTH. This is typical and idiomatic of Israel....!
Israel has a destiny and legacy on the earth. As evidenced by a vast plethora of prophecies and Gods unilateral covenants. As is evidenced by the 144,000 Israelite commandos of Revelation.
The Church has a destiny and legacy in heaven....to be with her Husband Jesus and to follow Him forever wherever He goes. Pauls writings NEVER indicate that the Church goes through wrath.
Just like Enoch (a type), the Church will be harpazo-ed away from the time and place of Gods wrath, just as Enoch was removed from the time and place of the flood.
Thank you for invoking this important concept......so supportive of the rapture of the Church.
Israel has a destiny and legacy on the earth. As evidenced by a vast plethora of prophecies and Gods unilateral covenants. As is evidenced by the 144,000 Israelite commandos of Revelation.
The Church has a destiny and legacy in heaven....to be with her Husband Jesus and to follow Him forever wherever He goes. Pauls writings NEVER indicate that the Church goes through wrath.
Just like Enoch (a type), the Church will be harpazo-ed away from the time and place of Gods wrath, just as Enoch was removed from the time and place of the flood.
Thank you for invoking this important concept......so supportive of the rapture of the Church.
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven
Pretrib rapture.
Do postribs unpack this differently?
The setting and everything about it is pretrib rapture.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven
Pretrib rapture.
Do postribs unpack this differently?
The setting and everything about it is pretrib rapture.
In mat 24 Jesus shifts the timeframe to " before the flood
Noah is used as a preflood gathering
Them immediately Jesus places the one Taken/ left in that dame timeframe.
But then without hesitation he goes into the 10 virgins.
All those dynamics Jesus places " before the flood"
They are all pretrib rapture dynamics.
All solid bible
Noah is used as a preflood gathering
Them immediately Jesus places the one Taken/ left in that dame timeframe.
But then without hesitation he goes into the 10 virgins.
All those dynamics Jesus places " before the flood"
They are all pretrib rapture dynamics.
All solid bible
Christ uses Noah and he also uses Lot. Peter expounds upon it in II Peter 2 . He says Noah was saved, Lot was delivered. When we look in the Greek to define those two. Saved means to watch out over and to guard while going through. Delivered means to remove completely out of harm or dangers way.
We can't just take Matthew alone we have to use all the synoptic gospels to properly decipher. So while he mentions Noah in Matthew he mentions Lot and Noah in Luke.
So we have just that in light of both. Lot is delivered removed from danger. Same for the church. Noah who went through God's wrath was protected from it. Which it is the same look at the 144k as well as the two witnesses until God lets them be killed.
So anyway is a going through and they are protected from God's wrath as well as their is a removal of us the church which would be Lot. However, II Peter just expounds how there is a difference. Between save and delivered and that is just what happens a saving and a delivering when it comes to the tribulation. One is removed prior and one is kept through. Noah and Lot.
We can't just take Matthew alone we have to use all the synoptic gospels to properly decipher. So while he mentions Noah in Matthew he mentions Lot and Noah in Luke.
So we have just that in light of both. Lot is delivered removed from danger. Same for the church. Noah who went through God's wrath was protected from it. Which it is the same look at the 144k as well as the two witnesses until God lets them be killed.
So anyway is a going through and they are protected from God's wrath as well as their is a removal of us the church which would be Lot. However, II Peter just expounds how there is a difference. Between save and delivered and that is just what happens a saving and a delivering when it comes to the tribulation. One is removed prior and one is kept through. Noah and Lot.
