Do you believe the gospel given to the apostle Paul by Christ ?

Forhisglorynotmine · Oct 10, 2021

Paul reminded the church in Rome, and us, that believers in Jesus may view situations differently. We also have diverse backgrounds that color our attitudes and practices. He wrote, “Let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister” (v. 13).
God’s grace gives us great freedom even as it helps us express His love to fellow believers. We can use that freedom to put the spiritual needs of others above our own convictions about rules and practices that don’t contradict the essential truths found in the gospel (v. 20).

Hann57 · Oct 10, 2021

ResidentAlien said:

Paul was diferant from

Hann57 said:

Keep on topic. You are posting different unrelated verses

Hann57 · Oct 10, 2021

EternalFire said:

Acts was not written to me.

Hann57 · Oct 10, 2021

GRACE_ambassador said:

Blik said: "I believe that Paul spoke exactly how Christ spoke"
Q: On earth? Or, From HEAVEN? = TWO Different Things, Correct?:

Precious friend, seems to be Many Confused denominations AND individuals:

Should they all not Love God's Truth, And obey HIM, Rightly Dividing It?:
Which of the following "distinctions" are we to obey, today in The Body Of
CHRIST? HIS WORDS "He Spoke on earth, To the Twelve apostles," OR:
HIS Words FROM HEAVEN, TO Paul, our "apostle Of GRACE"?:

Distinctions In God's Two Different Programs: Prophecy vs Mystery!:

Grace And Peace, Precious friends. The following may or may not be helpful.
However, thanks for your Consideration, and, Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed in:

Basic {and more} Distinctions of Prophecy vs Mystery:

First, Some Similarities: The LORD JESUS CHRIST, love of HIM, And
love of our neighbor!

LORD JESUS, please Grant us all Your Divine Help in our understanding of:

Things That Differ!

{ RDf = Rightly Divided from }:

God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom (past/future)

(1) Concerns a kingdom: a political organization
(Daniel 2:44; Matthew 6:10 KJB!)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From Things That DIFFER!:

God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
(Current = “But NOW!” Romans 3:21, 7:6, 16: 26; Ephesians 2:13 et al KJB!):

(1) Concerns A Body, HIS Church; a Living Organism
(1 Corinthians 12:12, 27; Ephesians 4:12-16 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(2) The kingdom to be established on earth
(Jeremiah 23:5; Matthew 6:10!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(2) The Body {Church} Given a position in Heaven!
(Ephesians 1:3, 2:5-6; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(3) Christ to be its King (Jeremiah 23:5; Isaiah 9:6-7 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(3) CHRIST Is The Living Head Of HIS Body, The Church!
(Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(4) The kingdom prophesied “since the world began”
(Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(4) The Body Chosen In CHRIST "before the world
began," But “kept secret since the world began!”
(Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(5) Israel to be given supremacy over the nations
(Isaiah 60:10-12, 61:6 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(5) Jew and Gentile placed on the same level before God!
(Romans 10:12, 11:32; Ephesians 2:16-17 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(6)The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s instrumentality
(Genesis 22:17-18; Zechariah 8:13 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(6) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s obstinancy!
(Acts 13:44-46, Romans 11:28-32 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(7) The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s rise
(Isaiah 60:1-3; Zechariah 8:22-23 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(7) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s fall!
(Acts 28:27-28; Romans 11:11, 12, 15 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(8) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such
(Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 37:21-22 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(8) The Mystery Concerns individuals!
(Romans 10:12-13; 2 Corinthians 5:14-17 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(9) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth
(Isaiah 2:3-4, 11:1-9!; et al KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(9) The Mystery Concerns “all spiritual blessings in The Heavenlies”
(Ephesians 1:3; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(10) Prophecy concerns Christ’s Coming To the earth
(Isaiah 59:20; Zechariah 14:4 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(10) The Mystery Explains CHRIST’s Absence From the earth!
(Ephesians 1:20-24; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy: gospel of The Kingdom!:
(11) In prophecy, salvation by Grace through faith alone is Not contemplated
(Matthew 28:19-20, 23:1-3; Luke 7:29-30; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; James 2:17 KJB!)
RDf

► The Mystery: *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!!:*
(11) Salvation “By GRACE Through faith” Alone lies at The Very
Heart Of The Mystery! (Romans 3:21-26, 4:5; Ephesians 2:8-9 KJB!) ◄

Prophecy:
(12) The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly
to the TWELVE (Matthew 10:5-7; Acts 1:6-8, 3:19-26 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(12) The proclamation of The Mystery program committed particularly
to ONE: Paul! (Ephesians 3:1-3, 8-9; Colossians 1:24-27 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(13) The prophetic program revealed through Many of God’s servants
(Luke 1:70; 2 Peter 1:21 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(13) The Mystery Revealed Through ONE man: Paul!
(Galatians 1:1, 11-12, 2:2, 7, 9; Ephesians 3:2-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(14) Old Testament writers frequently did not
understand the prophecies made through them!
(Daniel 12:8-10; 1 Peter 1:10-12 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(14) Paul Both understood And longed that others might
understand The Mystery CHRIST Revealed Through him!
(Ephesians 1:15-23, 3:14-21; Colossians 1:9-10, 2:1-3 KJB!)

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Be RICHLY Blessed!

Basic Distinctions between Prophecy and the Mystery! (C.R. Stam)

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I have further compiled More Distinctions In God's TWO Different Programs!:

Prophecy/Law:
(15) The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 KJB!)

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B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out
By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 KJB!)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE!:
(15) Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27; Romans 6:3-4;
1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law:
(16) Forgive others FIRST, THEN God Will Forgive!
(Matthew 6:14-15, 18:35; Mark 11:25-26; Luke 6:37 KJB!)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE!:
(16) Forgive others BECAUSE CHRIST Has Already FORGIVEN us!
(Ephesians 4:32 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law:
(17) Taught how/what to pray! (Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2 KJB!)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE!:
(17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!"
(Philippians 4:6 KJB!) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":

(17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not" what to pray "as we ought,"
But "The Spirit Intercedeth FOR us, According To The Will Of God!..."
(Romans 8:26 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law { earthly! }:
18) "watchmen," { as CHRIST Told the Jews On the earth! }, looking for
The "wicked one, the deceiving man of SIN" And "signs" (Matthew 24 KJB!)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE { Heavenly! }!:
(18) ambassadors { As CHRIST Told Paul, From Heaven! }
LOOKING, WATCHING, And WAITING For! = The Holy One,
The LORD JESUS CHRIST {From Heaven! }
( Romans 8:18, 19, 23, 25; 1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18;
Philippians 3:20; Colossians 3:2, 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:5-11;
2 Thessalonians 3:5; Titus 2:13 KJB! )
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probably more… But, sorry, for all the views of prophecy/Mystery =
only ONE gospel, and, Peter and Paul “preached” The SAME thing?:
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@Blik would have us "obey OPPOSITES" at the SAME time???:

Example: Can I Actually "SELL everything" {Christ's earthly Words} AND
"work with my hands to Give to them in need" (Christ's HEAVENLY Words)?
How Exactly does that work again???
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Conclusion:

“things that are Different are just Not The SAME,” correct?
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LORD JESUS, thank You For All Your Divine Help
in our understanding of Things That Differ!
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“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!”
(2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

You need to believe Paul's gospel to be saved. 1 Corinthians 15:3,4.

Hann57 · Oct 10, 2021

Nehemiah6 said:

That is an important part of the Gospel. But the full Gospel is that Christ -- who is God -- died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and rose again for our justification according to the Scriptures. And that repentance for the remission of sins must be preached in His name.

Equally important are the truths that God the Father has made Him both Lord and Christ, and all power and authority in Heaven and on earth have been given unto Him. Therefore God now COMMANDS all men everywhere to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

There is only one Gospel but it has several designations. Anyone claiming that there is more than one Gospel or bringing "another gospel" should be seen as false. For a deeper understanding of the Gospel, God has provided the epistle to the Romans.

You need to believe that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4. Otherwise you are lost. No debating!

eternally-gratefull · Oct 10, 2021

justbyfaith said:

That was not written to individuals.It was written to the gentile church.

eternally-gratefull · Oct 10, 2021

rayzor said:

Salvation is not a prize, a reward, or a wage,

It is the gift of God

Hann57 · Oct 10, 2021

EternalFire said:

Acts is not written to me or you. 2Ti_2:7 Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.
Paul does not write: Consider what Luke says.
2Co_12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. Who gave Paul what to write ? Who made himself known to Paul when he was persecuting the church of God? Who gave Paul the gospel to preach to throughout all the world ?
Christ.

Gardenias · Oct 10, 2021

Hann57 said:

Please,what is that GOSPEL that Christ gave to Paul?

Some here are very shady in what they say to twist the scriptures.

Come right out and say the GOSPEL that Christ gave to Paul was that Jesus was the only sacrifice ever needed for our redemption. He,Jesus is the good news to be shared with the world!

ResidentAlien · Oct 10, 2021

Hann57 said:

Frankly, I don't know what your topic is. You're not making any sense.

BillG · Oct 10, 2021

ResidentAlien said:

According to his profile he is not a Christian.

Absolutely · Oct 10, 2021

Hann57 said:

Acts is not written to me or you. 2Ti_2:7 Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.
Paul does not write: Consider what Luke says.
2Co_12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. Who gave Paul what to write ? Who made himself known to Paul when he was persecuting the church of God? Who gave Paul the gospel to preach to throughout all the world ?
Christ.

Are you pauline only adherent?

I read both books
Greens letters
....and les feldicks baloney.

Pure baloney

Absolutely · Oct 10, 2021

Gardenias said:

He sounds " pauline only"

Those bible butchers rock along fairly well with their radical paul idolotry.

Then outta nowhere they start a gospel smear job, along with a peter and John smear Job.

But they dont stop there.

They also believe Jesus original mission failed and the cross was plan b

Hann57 · Oct 10, 2021

Gardenias said:

The gospel Paul was given by Christ.

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
This is the gospel you must believe to be saved.

Hann57 · Oct 10, 2021

Absolutely said:

You need to get saved by believing the gospel given to Paul by Christ.
1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Absolutely · Oct 10, 2021

Hann57 said:

Yeah
The gospel Jesus preached in the.....you heard it here first....Gospels.

No brainer.

But keep struggling with it

Lol

Absolutely · Oct 10, 2021

Hann57 said:

Nobody believes otherwise.

The gospel Jesus preached

Absolutely · Oct 10, 2021

Hann57 said:

Answer the question. Stop hiding.

Are you pauline only?

Hiding automatically gives you red flags.

Absolutely · Oct 10, 2021

Hann57 said:

Did Jesus preach a different gospel than paul?

Absolutely · Oct 10, 2021

Hann57 said:

it was written to christians.

So we will note you have excluded yourself.

That is most likely why you are oblivious that in acts we see the gospel to the gentiles given to peter BEFORE PAUL.

But since you cut out entire books of the bible, it makes sense you do not know that.

Do you believe the gospel given to the apostle Paul by Christ ?

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