Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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Gideon300

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They replaced flu deaths with Covid = WAKE UP = Have some WORD and pray for the Holy Spirit to fill you.

They came right out and said "No flu deaths = Covid deaths replace the flu count"

They are mocking you and had this Planned Years in advance.

Watch the 2012 Amazing Spiderman movie about 45 minutes in where the Lab Scientist is confronted by the Pharma CEO.

Pay close attention to what the CEO tells the Lab Scientist.

WAKE UP PEOPLE

Read Matthew 25:1-13
You get your theology from Spiderman? And you expect me to take you seriously? Do they not teach people how to think any more?

Since the various methods of controlling COVID have been introduced, there has been a corresponding drop in the number of flu cases. Masks, hand washing and limiting movement is more effective for the flu as it is less contagious. In case you can't make the leap of logic, fewer flu cases mean fewer deaths.
 

Gideon300

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Wow, this last pages have been a paranoia fest. And so many people!

"par·a·noi·a
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a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality.
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persecution complex
delusions
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suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification.
"the global paranoia about hackers and viruses"

What Is Paranoia?
Paranoia is a pattern of thinking that leads to irrational mistrust and suspicion of other people. It can range from mild feelings of discomfort to an intense, extremely distressing pattern of thinking that indicates a person's mental well-being is at serious risk.1

Symptoms
While most people experience some paranoid thoughts from time to time, paranoia is a more persistent state of constant, irrational, and unfounded distrust. It may include:

Feeling like a victim
Feeling misunderstood
Feeling persecuted
Isolation
Mistrust of others
Persistent anxiety and stress related to paranoid beliefs
Poor relationships with others due to distrust."

But my favourite, seen over & over in this thread and this forum.

"You believe the government, an organization, or an individual is spying on or following you."

I guess it must be hard to see it is
yourself. But read the posts here. The paranoia is thick and deep! I don't care if people get the vax or not. But many people really need psychiatric help, because they think their paranoia is normal and appropriate.
Many people are simply deluded. Nothing will change them. You could take a flat earther into space and show him the earth is sphere. He would convince himself that he was hallucinating. What troubles me is the number of people who put God's name to their nonsense. They don't know the difference between God and the devil.
 

John146

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Revealation 13,8 says clear that all whose name is not written in the book of life will worship the beast. So as children of God our name is written in the book of life.
All others have to worship the beast!
So if you take the vaccine or not makes your name not written in the book of life.
So no child of God must fear to worship the beast or will be prepared to worship the beast if he takes the vaccine against covid.
So all this fear making to take the vaccine is manmade and is not representing the truth.
Names can be blotted out...but I won’t be around anyway.
 

John146

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According to your vote,you believe that getting the shot shows a lack of faith.I believe that getting the shot SHOWS faith because GOD IS ALMIGHTY and looks at your motivation for getting the shot,so then If you got the shot because you were thinking about the well being of others GOD would see that and If you got the shot because you were were worried about self preservation,GOD would see that also.
Doing something with the right motives can still turn out disastrous, not saying this is the case.
 

PennEd

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Doing something with the right motives can still turn out disastrous, not saying this is the case.
Would you rather do something (vacinate) that turns out to be disastrous with good Intentions and know that GOD sees my heart/Intention or would you rather NOT do something that might turn out to be disastrous(vaccination) knowing that GOD sees your heart.

I guess as long as you Really feel In truth that you shouldn't get the shot GOD will honor that, but for me my heart says getting the shot shows faith,loving my neighbor to be rewarded at the judgement seat of CHRIST.
 

John146

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This guy was “paranoid” about the vax, now deeply regrets taking the lethal injection:


Dave Menchinton: 46-year-old Canadian “vaxx-hesitant” man has severe adverse reactions, partial paralysis two hours after second Pfizer injection, hospitalized ever since


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https://thecovidblog.com/2021/10/01...r-second-pfizer-injection-hospitalized-since/
It's all a hoax though right? We just had a local teenage boy die in his sleep days after receiving the shot. Cause of death, "unknown at this time."
 

John146

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Would you rather do something (vacinate) that turns out to be disastrous with good Intentions and know that GOD sees my heart/Intention or would you rather NOT do something that might turn out to be disastrous(vaccination) knowing that GOD sees your heart.

I guess as long as you Really feel In truth that you shouldn't get the shot GOD will honor that, but for me my heart says getting the shot shows faith,loving my neighbor to be rewarded at the judgement seat of CHRIST.
I'd rather not make a decision to do something without gaining as much knowledge as I can. Paul says over and over, I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren...believers were doing things and believing things out of ignorance. Does that mean they were right? Of course not.
 

John146

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loving my neighbor to be rewarded at the judgement seat of CHRIST.
Loving your neighbor? How? By getting a shot we know nothing about is somehow loving your neighbor? Sounds more like a guilt trip. If I don't get the shot, am I not loving my neighbor?
 
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I'd rather not make a decision to do something without gaining as much knowledge as I can. Paul says over and over, I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren...believers were doing things and believing things out of ignorance. Does that mean they were right? Of course not.
I trust the CDC.:)
 
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Loving your neighbor? How? By getting a shot we know nothing about is somehow loving your neighbor? Sounds more like a guilt trip. If I don't get the shot, am I not loving my neighbor?
Are you saying that me telling you the truth about GOD looks at the heart/Intention Is laying a guilt trip on you?I think that that's your own conscience accusing or excusing you.

If you don't get the shot and your motive for not getting the shot Is truly because you thought the shot might harm your neighbor then GOD would honor that but If you are not getting the shot for selfseving reasons then GOD won't honor that and that's not loving your neighbor.
 
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This guy was “paranoid” about the vax, now deeply regrets taking the lethal injection:


Dave Menchinton: 46-year-old Canadian “vaxx-hesitant” man has severe adverse reactions, partial paralysis two hours after second Pfizer injection, hospitalized ever since


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https://thecovidblog.com/2021/10/01...r-second-pfizer-injection-hospitalized-since/
2 hours after the shot?

Sometimes we just have to read things we look at and call it for what it is.
 
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You get your theology from Spiderman? And you expect me to take you seriously? Do they not teach people how to think any more?

Since the various methods of controlling COVID have been introduced, there has been a corresponding drop in the number of flu cases. Masks, hand washing and limiting movement is more effective for the flu as it is less contagious. In case you can't make the leap of logic, fewer flu cases mean fewer deaths.
https://z3news.com/w/three-reasons-covid19-not-vaccine/
 

PennEd

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It's all a hoax though right? We just had a local teenage boy die in his sleep days after receiving the shot. Cause of death, "unknown at this time."
He is very far from the only one. In fact, vaers has hundreds of thousands of adverse reactions, and over 16k deaths.
Look at this poor woman:

Jane Stroud: British woman develops gruesome skin disorder after second AstraZeneca viral vector DNA injection

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Loving your neighbor? How? By getting a shot we know nothing about is somehow loving your neighbor? Sounds more like a guilt trip. If I don't get the shot, am I not loving my neighbor?
Sounds like some sort of rationalization. Yeah, guilt trip.
 
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Are you saying that me telling you the truth about GOD looks at the heart/Intention Is laying a guilt trip on you?I think that that's your own conscience accusing or excusing you.

If you don't get the shot and your motive for not getting the shot Is truly because you thought the shot might harm your neighbor then GOD would honor that but If you are not getting the shot for selfseving reasons then GOD won't honor that and that's not loving your neighbor.
I think we often overlook the bit in the second greatest commandment that says '...as yourself.' We are not commanded to indiscriminately love our neighbor, even though love is good, but to be precise we are to love our neighbor as ourselves.

And yes I do believe God takes into FULL consideration the bit that says '...as yourself.'

There is some truth in what you said. God does weigh the heart on a case by case basis for each individual. That being said, how each person loves themselves is a bit different and that effects the way we love our neighbor.

So when we take a vaccine that could potentially harm us or cause any sort of moral/ethical problem then that is difficult to justify as loving ourselves. For other people taking a vaccine is no problem.

There really is no right or wrong answer here, but intolerance against anti-vaxxers is a greater evil than refusing to take a vaccine.
 

John146

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Are you saying that me telling you the truth about GOD looks at the heart/Intention Is laying a guilt trip on you?I think that that's your own conscience accusing or excusing you.

If you don't get the shot and your motive for not getting the shot Is truly because you thought the shot might harm your neighbor then GOD would honor that but If you are not getting the shot for selfseving reasons then GOD won't honor that and that's not loving your neighbor.
No brother, I'm saying you may have good intentions from the heart, but the actions following those good intentions may be completely wrong. Just because your intentions are good doesn't make it right.
 

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But not in spreading speculations, as you do.
We are merely comparing the act of buying and selling goods without the mark of the beast to being restricted from certain events or even being able to work without a vaccine passport. We are not saying the vaccine is the mark of the beast.
 
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