Vaccination?

[SophieT]

Always appreciate the research approach, cheers to that.

I could understand blood diseases causing a blue hue, but my understanding so far is that a heart disease like pediatric cardiomyopathy doesn't cause the blue appearance by itself. And even for babies that might have something that causes a blue hue, it wouldn't necessarily be a persistently present symptom.

Completely open to being proven wrong on this one if that is the case.

thanks

I agree

I did not see any direct reference to that on any site I checked. I am pretty sure a connection would have been made if it had been appropriate

I certainly used the correct search perimeters

 

[JohnDB]

Survival rates apply to infections. But the vaccines were not supposed to kill anyone. So there should have been ZERO vaccine deaths. Do you get it?

And any figures you quote will be off by at least 90%. So if 10 deaths are reported that represents 100 deaths. Now kindly do the math with the full knowledge that only the USA and EU are actually reporting (and under-reporting) deaths.

Let's take this OFFICIAL report:
26,041 Deaths 2,448,362 Injuries Following COVID Shots in European Union’s Database as Slovenia Suspends J&J Shot After Death of 20-Year-Old Student

Those numbers actually represent 260,000 deaths.

'For instance, in today’s Mercola.com newsletter there is an article summarizing Dr. Mercola’s interview with Dr. Vladimir Zelenko. In that intervew Dr. Zelenko states a common refrain about VAERS reporting:

“If you look at the 2009 Harvard study on the VAERS system, they said only 1% of events are actually reported. So, OK … whatever the number is, it’s not 6,000. Maybe only 10% are being reported. I don’t know. But definitely it’s being underreported.”​

Mercola, just a few paragraphs below that, emphasizes the point:

“Studies have indicated it could be as low as 1%.6,7”'​

https://gnigh-66270.medium.com/vaers-underreporting-and-the-mysterious-1-5b4f9b109145

Gloved hand experiment results plus antivaxxer's propaganda together and yes, they knew that there would be placebo effect deaths.

Basically, the antivaxxers are responsible for the deaths from the vaccine. Don't you feel proud of all that you have accomplished?

 

[SophieT]

Survival rates apply to infections. But the vaccines were not supposed to kill anyone. So there should have been ZERO vaccine deaths. Do you get it?

And any figures you quote will be off by at least 90%. So if 10 deaths are reported that represents 100 deaths. Now kindly do the math with the full knowledge that only the USA and EU are actually reporting (and under-reporting) deaths.

Let's take this OFFICIAL report:
26,041 Deaths 2,448,362 Injuries Following COVID Shots in European Union’s Database as Slovenia Suspends J&J Shot After Death of 20-Year-Old Student

Those numbers actually represent 260,000 deaths.

'For instance, in today’s Mercola.com newsletter there is an article summarizing Dr. Mercola’s interview with Dr. Vladimir Zelenko. In that intervew Dr. Zelenko states a common refrain about VAERS reporting:

“If you look at the 2009 Harvard study on the VAERS system, they said only 1% of events are actually reported. So, OK … whatever the number is, it’s not 6,000. Maybe only 10% are being reported. I don’t know. But definitely it’s being underreported.”​

Mercola, just a few paragraphs below that, emphasizes the point:

“Studies have indicated it could be as low as 1%.6,7”'​

https://gnigh-66270.medium.com/vaers-underreporting-and-the-mysterious-1-5b4f9b109145

we paid attention to Dr Mercola long before this covid mess started...been getting his newsletter for quite some time now

he is in the top 10 list of most desired to be shut down permanently by Fauci and his groupies

he is also a fantastic source for supplements and just general health concerns

as you prob know, his YouTube channel has been shut down...immediately after youtube changed their rules

 

[Mario]

But are you going to participate In the poll?

I am kind of new at this. Where do I go to participate in the poll?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

I am kind of new at this. Where do I go to participate in the poll?

At the very top of this page you can vote

 

[Angela53510]

You are following Stella Imanuel? She belongs to the frontline doctors, right? .She claimes that wearing masks and distance dont help to reduce the spreading of the virus, without given any proof for that claim. But you can find studies where it is testet that a distance from 1,5 - 2m have an result.
Also she claimes that reptileoids ruling the goverments or that the dna from aliens is used for medical treatment.
She claimes to healed hundred's of people from covid with Hydroxychloroquin, but cant proof it.
It is proofed that Hydroxychloroquin can make serious sideeffects and it is not shure that it realy helpes. So to spread Hydroxychloroquin like the vaccine can result in the same Dilemma of sideeffects. More over Hydroxy can cause liver and kidneycollaps or heartarrhytmics. That you still defend it as correct, while you damn the vaccine. This is not logic.

https://www.medizin-transparent.at/hydroxychloroquin-covid-19/

This side is german, but gives you the sources from the studies ( most english) which saying Hydroxychloroquin is not helping against covid or is useful for prevention.

I've been on Hydroxychloroquine 3 times, for a total of 2 years. I took it last year to stop break through flares in my hands from RA. It worked quite well! But the side effects were so bad, I had to go off. I got insomnia. The feeling of rocks in my stomach & constant pain. I lost so much hair, too. So far, my retinas have not detached, although I have a friend it did happen to. She had to have surgeries to reattach them, and she still has blind spots in her vision.

I looked up a lot of studies about whether HCQ works for COVID, and they all concluded after many double blind studies that it does not. I was just curious, having been on the drug.

I'd like to see what the research is on Invermectin. Of course, it really is basically a drug for horses, but I would like to find studies, on whether it works to stop COVID, or is it just another anti-vax lie.

 

[Angela53510]

Re: Invermectin

Early in the pandemic, scientists showed that ivermectin could inhibit the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 in cells in laboratory studies2. But data on ivermectin’s efficacy against COVID-19 in people are still scarce, and study conclusions conflict greatly, making the withdrawal of a major trial particularly noteworthy.
It’s not yet possible to assess whether ivermectin works against COVID-19 because the data currently available are not of sufficiently high quality, says Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz, an epidemiologist at the University of Wollongong in Australia.
There are "Conspiracy theories holding that ivermectin has been proven to work and that drug companies are depriving the public of a cheap cure."
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w

"We assessed the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in reducing mortality, in secondary outcomes, and in chemoprophylaxis, among people with, or at high risk of, COVID-19 infection.
Data sources:
We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021. Two review authors sifted for studies, extracted data, and assessed risk of bias. Meta-analyses were conducted and certainty of the evidence was assessed using the GRADE approach and additionally in trial sequential analyses for mortality. Twenty-four randomized controlled trials involving 3406 participants met review inclusion."

This paper is a meta-analysis reviewing many studies. There are conflicting results, although the article below concludes it has a possibility to stop COVID in people.

https://journals.lww.com/americanth...mectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx

Finally a new treatment is called "Monoclonal antibodies". This one looks promising, and is FDA approved. It is used for those who already have COVID and seems to have 70% efficacy against COVID.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pre...tional-monoclonal-antibody-treatment-covid-19

 

[Angela53510]

More lies in this post than I can shake a stick at!

Give us proper sources showing where & how Aiden is wrong. Not taking an anti-vaxers word! You are brainwashed by misinformation and lies.

 

[Angela53510]

'Not Supposed To Happen': US State With Highest Vaxx Rate Sees Record Surge In COVID Cases

Authored by Ivan Pentchoukov via The Epoch Times,
Vermont, the state with the highest vaccination rate in the United States, is experiencing a CCP virus surge at levels not seen since the pandemic’s peak last winter.

The number of cases in Vermont is at a record level, hospitalizations are close to the records notched last winter, and the state recorded the deadliest day and the second deadliest month of the pandemic in September.

“I think it’s clearly frustrating for all of us,” Michael Pieciak, the commissioner of the Vermont Department of Financial Regulation who monitors CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus statistics for the state.​

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1443272185901027330

More than 69 percent of Vermont’s population has been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 as of Sept. 24, according to the CDC, far above the national rate of 56 percent.
The state recorded the highest rate of hospitalizations per 100,000 residents on Sept. 30, breaching a record set on Jan. 31 last year. Eight people died of the CCP virus in Vermont on Sept. 13, the highest grim total recorded since the outbreak of the virus.
In late August, four of ten cases of COVID-19 in Vermont were among vaccinated people, according to a letter signed by 90 employees of the Vermont Health Department, including state Epidemiologist Patsy Kelso.
Gov. Phil Scott (R) lifted the state of emergency in Vermont in June when 80 percent of the population had received at least one shot of the vaccine. He has since indicated he is wary of reimposing the state of emergency.


“We can’t be in a perpetual state of emergency,” Scott said this week.
The four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaccination rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs.
The head of UMass Memorial Health, the largest health system in central Massachusetts, said recently that regional hospitals were seeing nearly 20 times more COVID-19 patients than in June and there isn’t an ICU bed to spare. Massachusetts has the fifth-highest vaccination rate in the nation.
In Connecticut, the second most vaccinated state in the U.S., the legislature recently extended the governor’s emergency powers to make it easier to cope with the latest wave of the pandemic.
On Sept. 22, Maine, the third most-vaccinated U.S. state, had nearly 90 people in intensive care units, a pandemic peak for the state.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1444002637158838272

I would not trust a thing Epoch Times writes! I was receiving their daily newsletters. Talk about right wing American ultra-extremism!!

I finally got so tired of it I unsubscribed, haven't missed it once. I'm conservative and right wing, but this was so far right of me, and inaccurate, it was terrible.

Ed, no wonder you are full of misinformation. Not a reputable publication or source.

 

[Angela53510]

This is unbelievably infuriating!!

Absolutely ZERO clinical trials of pregnant women! What the hell is wrong with you people!

Amanda Makulec: 35-year-old Washington D.C. woman gloats of being vaccinated, pregnant, breastfeeding; newborn son dies at 2 1/2 months


WASHINGTON, D.C. – A 35-year-old woman with a master’s degree in public health is grieving the unnecessary death of her infant son, in yet another very disturbing story of post-injection pregnancy.
Mrs. Amanda Makulec received her first mRNA injection on March 17, according to web archives. Note Mrs. Makulec locked her Twitter account last week so you can no longer see her timeline unless she approves you to do so. It’s unclear whether she received Pfizer or Moderna (not that it matters), and when she received the second injection. But if she followed CDC guidelines, she likely received the second shot towards the end of April.


Mrs. Makulec is a walking, talking billboard for Pfizer and Moderna. She literally regurgitates every Centers for Disease Control and mainstream media talking point that they repeat until people believe it’s true

Pregnancy and very unfortunate death
Mrs. Makulec became pregnant sometime in October or November 2020 with her second child. He was born in mid-July 2021. Shortly after the child she calls “Baby Z” was born, Mrs. Makulec shared dangerous, irresponsible propaganda about mRNA injections and pregnancy. She talked about “sharing her immune protections” with Baby Z both in utero and via breastfeeding.

She really picked up her vaxx advocacy and coercion in September. Several tweets contained the hashtag #GetVaccinated. Mrs. Makulec spoke of her “two littles” on September 18 while referencing a New York Times article that we won’t be linking here.

She locked her Twitter account less than 12 hours later after several people pointed out that “vaccines are the leading cause of coincidences.”
Mrs. Makulec received her master’s degree in public health from Boston University in 2010. She describes herself as “an enthusiast for using data for social good and public health.”



Nine days later, Mrs. Makulec tweeted that her 2 1/2 month old baby boy “passed away unexpectedly and suddenly.”

Another rhetorical rant using anecdotal evidence!

So, my daughter was pregnant, baby was born the end of April. She was double vaxxed with Pfizer while pregnant. I was shaken she did that, I cannot lie. Why even play with possibilities? I also remember Thalidomide.

Baby was born healthy, has grown rapidly and is now 5 months old, starting to crawl backwards, and communicates by voice.

For every baby that dies, likely of SIDS, not the vax, I will find 100 babies who didn't!

Anecdotal evidence, which you shove on people all the time, is neither scientific nor factual evidence. Think of your report as a sad story, and my report as a happy story. Not saying either story is untrue, but it is proof of absolutely noting!

 

[Angela53510]

Two unrelated things and you are laughing your head off. Did you just inhale laughing gas?

"The COVID mRNA Vaccine is an operating system which can program your DNA, and therefore program you, at your core essential blueprint level. Is this an exaggeration? No it’s not. Moderna states on their website that their mRNA technology platform is a “software of life” and “functions very much like an operating system on a computer.” This is straight from their website:"

Who are you replying to? Reply using the "Reply" button for all of us to know!

Worse, the link doesn't go to the website, not on my devices. At least leave a hint as to where you picked up this lie.

As many have pointed out, the m-RNA vax is highly unstable and fragile. It needs to be kept very cold (-60-80F) and is encased in oil, so it doesn't break apart before the injection. It is gone totally from the body in 24-48 hours.

It does not change our DNA! Please Ed, take a course in understanding science and the scientific method. It is used because it really helps determine what is statistically significant, and what is coincidence or Placebo Effect.

"mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. That immune response, which produces antibodies, is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies.

COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein.” The spike protein is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19.

1. First, COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are given in the upper arm muscle. Once the instructions (mRNA) are inside the muscle cells, the cells use them to make the protein piece. After the protein piece is made, the cell breaks down the instructions and gets rid of them.
2. Next, the cell displays the protein piece on its surface. Our immune systems recognize that the protein doesn’t belong there and begin building an immune response and making antibodies, like what happens in natural infection against COVID-19.
3. At the end of the process, our bodies have learned how to protect against future infection. The benefit of mRNA vaccines, like all vaccines, is those vaccinated gain this protection without ever having to risk the serious consequences of getting sick with COVID-19.

Facts about COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines
They cannot give someone COVID-19.

• mRNA vaccines do not use the live virus that causes COVID-19.

They do not affect or interact with our DNA in any way.

• mRNA never enters the nucleus of the cell, which is where our DNA (genetic material) is kept.
• The cell breaks down and gets rid of the mRNA soon after it is finished using the instructions.

Facts about COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines
They cannot give someone COVID-19.

• mRNA vaccines do not use the live virus that causes COVID-19.

They do not affect or interact with our DNA in any way.

• mRNA never enters the nucleus of the cell, which is where our DNA (genetic material) is kept.
• The cell breaks down and gets rid of the mRNA soon after it is finished using the instructions.
• 
  
• The vaccine can't get into the DNA at all. This is a very good website which explains all about how the vaccine works. Any scientific journal you read will back this up!
• https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html
• 
  
• You are so terrified of the vaccine because you are bitter & angry the way the MSM works. I totally agree with you! We have 3 networks in Canada, they are paid to lie by Trudeau himself. We also get many American news channels. I would not give them the time of day!
• Scientific papers have strict methodology to correlate or not whether a drug works, without many bad side effects. These papers are peer reviewed. They don't get published unless people in the same profession ok it. If they do get published, it is analyzed by the scientific community and the general public.
• They look for errors, papers are frequently withdrawn, for lazy methodology, poor math, etc, etc.
• You, along with the other anti-vaxers are uneducated in science. And I would say paranoid and distrustful. Not all scientists are money grubbing liars. In fact, I've never met one who was. (I won't deny, knowing the depravity of humans, some are bad apples!) stop believing in medicine as written up by crazy, right wing conspiracy theorists, whose objective is overthrowing the gov't.

 

[Angela53510]

Cardiomyopathy (weakened heart) is the leading cause of death from one week to 1 year after birth. The jab is also known to cause cardiomyopathy as a potential side effect.

If a jab caused weakness, every heart beat is a roll of the dice for a fatal result, death won't necessarily happen prior to birth.

Just read the stats of heart issues, esp Myocarditis. An Edmonton Oiler (hockey player!) who got COVID and is unvaxed and may never play ever again. Again he got myocarditis from COVID.

In Canada, 1 in 10,000 people get myocarditis from the vaccine! However, 10% of people who get COVID get heart issues, esp. myocarditis.

So, another piece of misinformation shot down!

As revelations emerge about the Edmonton Oilers' only player still unvaccinated against COVID-19 developing myocarditis, an Edmonton cardiologist wants you to know your risk of dealing with the same heart condition.

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/oilers-...-with-covid-19-vaccine-cardiologist-1.5610976

 

[Aidan1]

Re: Invermectin

Early in the pandemic, scientists showed that ivermectin could inhibit the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 in cells in laboratory studies2. But data on ivermectin’s efficacy against COVID-19 in people are still scarce, and study conclusions conflict greatly, making the withdrawal of a major trial particularly noteworthy.
It’s not yet possible to assess whether ivermectin works against COVID-19 because the data currently available are not of sufficiently high quality, says Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz, an epidemiologist at the University of Wollongong in Australia.
There are "Conspiracy theories holding that ivermectin has been proven to work and that drug companies are depriving the public of a cheap cure."
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w

"We assessed the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in reducing mortality, in secondary outcomes, and in chemoprophylaxis, among people with, or at high risk of, COVID-19 infection.
Data sources:
We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021. Two review authors sifted for studies, extracted data, and assessed risk of bias. Meta-analyses were conducted and certainty of the evidence was assessed using the GRADE approach and additionally in trial sequential analyses for mortality. Twenty-four randomized controlled trials involving 3406 participants met review inclusion."

This paper is a meta-analysis reviewing many studies. There are conflicting results, although the article below concludes it has a possibility to stop COVID in people.

https://journals.lww.com/americanth...mectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx

Finally a new treatment is called "Monoclonal antibodies". This one looks promising, and is FDA approved. It is used for those who already have COVID and seems to have 70% efficacy against COVID.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pre...tional-monoclonal-antibody-treatment-covid-19

What i found in german researches is that ivermectin doesnt help. It is against Parasites and used again f.e. skabies or worms of horses. I just read that nearly 70% of emergency calls in Missisippi (state with the 2nd lowest vaccinerate) to poison controle Centers are because of ivermectin.
Nobody warns against sideeffects from useing ivermectin which is primary a vet medication.

 

[Angela53510]

Sorry, you used not the word damn for the vaccine against Covid.
But these meds are not helping against Covid. The most people in this world have no proper food and for shure no money for not helping meds.
Why nobody is talking about the side effects from hydroxychloroquine?

I've listed a few times my personal side effects with Hydroxychloroquine. Terrible insomnia, stomach pain, terrible itching & rapid hair loss. An RA friend was on HCQ and the drug detached both retinas, she had to have surgery twice and she still has blind spots in her sight. It was a successful drug in treating RA, for me, along with methotrexate and a biologic, but I couldn't take the side effects. It will be up to 5 years before I know if my eyes will be affected! So lots of check ups and tests! Visual field test, anyone?

The only side effect rheumatologists really warn people with RA/lupus, is about it damaging your eyes.

As far as a list of side effects:

Hydroxychloroquine may cause side effects. Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are severe or do not go away:

• headache
• dizziness
• loss of appetite
• nausea
• diarrhea
• stomach pain
• vomiting
• rash

If you experience any of the following symptoms, call your doctor immediately:

• difficulty reading or seeing (words, letters, or parts of objects missing)
• sensitivity to light
• blurred vision
• changes in vision
• seeing light flashes or streaks
• difficulty hearing
• ringing in ears
• muscle weakness
• unusual bleeding or bruising
• bleaching or loss of hair
• mood or mental changes
• irregular heartbeat
• drowsiness
• convulsions
• decreased consciousness or loss of consciousness
• thinking about harming or killing yourself
• https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a601240.html

 

[John146]

I'd like to see what the research is on Invermectin. Of course, it really is basically a drug for horses, but I would like to find studies, on whether it works to stop COVID, or is it just another anti-vax lie.

You fell for all the ignorant ads about horses...

Ivermectin has been given to tens of millions of people through the years safely. It is safer than taking aspirin, FDA words not mine. It won the founder a Nobel prize.

The frontline meds have been given successfully to hundreds of thousands of people. My family and dozens of others I know personally received the meds and recovered from COVID quickly.

Being a cancer survivor with a low immunity, COVID hit me hard for about two days. After receiving the meds, I was 100% in six hours. No joke. They work.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

You fell for all the ignorant ads about horses...

Ivermectin has been given to tens of millions of people through the years safely. It is safer than taking aspirin, FDA words not mine. It won the founder a Nobel prize.

The frontline meds have been given successfully to hundreds of thousands of people. My family and dozens of others I know personally received the meds and recovered from COVID quickly.

Being a cancer survivor with a low immunity, COVID hit me hard for about two days. After receiving the meds, I was 100% in six hours. No joke. They work.

You had Covid for 2 days?Was It diagnosed by a Doctor?

 

[John146]

You had Covid for 2 days?Was It diagnosed by a Doctor?

Yes, as soon as I starting feeling sick, I went to the doctor and tested positive. I immediately called frontlinemds and they sent the meds overnights. Covid knocked me off my feet at first, but literally six hours after I started taking the meds I was 100%. I probably still tested positive for the next few days, but I was recovered as far as how I felt.

Now, my natural immunity trumps the shot.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Yes, as soon as I starting feeling sick, I went to the doctor and tested positive. I immediately called frontlinemds and they sent the meds overnights. Covid knocked me off my feet at first, but literally six hours after I started taking the meds I was 100%. I probably still tested positive for the next few days, but I was recovered as far as how I felt.

Now, my natural immunity trumps the shot.

WOW,praise GOD.I'm happy for you.

 

[Jocund]

Just read the stats of heart issues, esp Myocarditis. An Edmonton Oiler (hockey player!) who got COVID and is unvaxed and may never play ever again. Again he got myocarditis from COVID.

In Canada, 1 in 10,000 people get myocarditis from the vaccine! However, 10% of people who get COVID get heart issues, esp. myocarditis.

So, another piece of misinformation shot down!

As revelations emerge about the Edmonton Oilers' only player still unvaccinated against COVID-19 developing myocarditis, an Edmonton cardiologist wants you to know your risk of dealing with the same heart condition.

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/oilers-...-with-covid-19-vaccine-cardiologist-1.5610976

A link is always appreciated, it helps move the conversation forward, cheers to that.

It should always be a red flag when someone cites a media article instead of a scientific publication. Especially an article where the interviewee says they "believe", "think", or "reckon" that something is true. We can be fooled into accepting a bad ethos argument. Mainstream media is notorious for this tactic.

So where did those numbers come from? Surely they weren't just made up? Kind of, but they are taken out of context.

Here's a publication the article may have been alluding to: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110475

But in that publication we see that both groups are in the ballpark of 5 per 100000 cases of myocarditis. The publication notes that myocarditis is actually substantially higher risk in the vaccinated group rather than the unvaccinated group by a risk factor of 3.24. That's not even the end of the story. A caveat for the publication was that the study was only run for 42 days around the vaccinated. This higher risk factor was only observed for short term effects, not long term. It is possible that long term heart-related effects are even higher for the vaccinated.

Continue your endeavour for truth, and don't get hung up when mainstream media says something without citing a scientific study. Even with a scientific study, look for methods and conclusions that might be in question.

And importantly, now that you've seen the media has not been forthright and honest in all cases, perhaps it is time to question everything that you have heard from the media.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I would not trust a thing Epoch Times writes! I was receiving their daily newsletters. Talk about right wing American ultra-extremism!!

I finally got so tired of it I unsubscribed, haven't missed it once. I'm conservative and right wing, but this was so far right of me, and inaccurate, it was terrible.

Ed, no wonder you are full of misinformation. Not a reputable publication or source.

The thing about the last election and all the lied that was spread by many of these right wing news sources is one of the reasons I have shunned all news sources as biased and untrustworthy. I felt so bad for a person at church who would say certain things were going to happen and Biden was not going to be in office because of this or that or another, because of things he heard on these right wing news sources. which did not in the end turn out to be true. but just "fake news" and misinformation.

Sadly he still falls for alot he hears. and he too is on this anti vacc warpath. so I have prety much stopped following him on Facebook (its sad seeing what he posts) and when he starts saying stuff in bible study I just get up and walk out.