Vaccination?

[SophieT]

Vaccine - None; from the page: "...identification and development of novel vaccines and medicines to treat SARS was a priority for governments and public health agencies around the world...however...no field-ready SARS vaccine had been completed because likely market-driven priorities had ended funding".

^In other words, there was no money to be made.

When we finally implemented those same preventative measures for this new strain cases reached an all-time low as of the beginning of this year (2021)...but these same successful measures were ended as soon as vaccines were authorized. And now as cases rose during this year the unvaccinated were vilified.

right

SARS kind of panned out but they kept on with the experimental novel vaccines and jumped at the chance to implement them with the world as their test tube

people seem to love to forget that these vaccines were implemented under 'emergency' measures by Trump and I can't prove it, but I am pretty sure he would not have taken this mess to the place the Biden admin has taken it

anyone with any ability to use even a small bit of logic would have to conclude the vaccines were not ready for distribution because they do not have long term efficacy and they have many many side effects, including death it appears

vaccinated people are not fully protected and the excuse that all vaccines are not perfect is lame

there is no FDA approved vaccine at the moment and people saying that the current vaccine is approved are wrong

we are still under emergency measures and as such, Pfizer et all cannot be held responsible for whatever happens to you after you receive their product

 

[AandW]

Sars NEVER created Blood Clots in Patients before!

 

[SophieT]

I guess mine mean something to you. as you got so upset yesterday you accused me falsly of saying something I never did.

So here you go attacking me for my words, when I just did what you did

you know what they call that don;t you?

yes

your words are nonsense and as you keep addressing me, they get more so

I would never attack you. your perception is skewed

you project yourself onto others as you have done with me. I do not know if you are not aware of this or if you deliberately do this in order to create a false impression of others, but it is a repeat pattern and you seem to spin out

 

[SophieT]

Your right I am angry, Because a sister seems to think she can falsly accuse people. then act like she has done nothing wrong. and continue to try to attack the person she is accused for calling her out

Unlike You I have proof.



Amen, that " WHAT THEY SAID" makes you part of the problem not the solutiion

Yet you falsly accused me wither by misunderstanding. or outright refusing to look to see what I REALLY SAID




and even accused me of trying to be a doctor a doctor.

I will say this, if agreeing with you in the future will make you this angry Then I will just take not.

one things is certain

I NEVER SAID YOU WERE PART OF THE PROBLEM

YET NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES I SAY THIS YOU REFUSE TO ADMIT YOU MADE A MISTAKE

AMEN YOU (the people who said those things I highlighted) ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM NOT THE SOLUTION

NOT YOU AS IN SOPHIE

The fact you think I would agree with you. then attack you in the same post just shows that somethign is wrong

so yes

If your going to talk to me and attack and belittle me. At least be humble enough to admit you falsly accused me. WHich is WHY YOUR SO MAD AT ME TO BEGIN WITH

have you thought of possibly becoming a playwright?

here you are playing both protagonist and antagonist and have quite the conversation going on with yourself

I think a three act play might cover the angst and whatever else it is you are trying to convey

it's not Shakespeare, but you know...small beginnings and all

 

[Gardenias]

Please

 

[SophieT]

and even accused me of trying to be a doctor a doctor.

anybody?

give it up

who accused eg of being a doctor?

come on now. you can't hide forever

 

[PennEd]

this is just simply wicked dumb

and not regretting it one

little

bit

since there is no study done on babies, let alone the unborn, this person gambled and lost a precious little life

I would not experiment like that with my dogs

Yes the pregnant women who take this God forsaken poison bear blame, but
There are not enough superlatives to express how evil Fauci, the cdc, nih, FDA, media etc is to actually tell pregnant women this gene therapy is safe for them and their baby.

KNOWING that there have been no studies for pregnant women.

 

[SophieT]

Yes the pregnant women who take this God forsaken poison bear blame, but
There are not enough superlatives to express how evil Fauci, the cdc, nih, FDA, media etc is to actually tell pregnant women this gene therapy is safe for them and their baby.

KNOWING that there have been no studies for pregnant women.

it underscores the necessity of doing your own research especially since the left installed themselves in the big mansion with the pillars

there are studies now though; just that most of the public seems not to see this

I don't know any women that would volunteer for those studies with their pregnancies or babies but if they keep hearing how safe it is...

this is wickedness 'in high places'....spiritually and physically

 

[PennEd]

Just a coincidence. If you think otherwise you’re a “conspiracy theorist’”.

They’re not laughing in the lemmings faces at all!

 

[Yahshua]

The notion of asymptomatic transmission is at the heart of the push to get everyone vaccinated, as it's those unvaccinated who are presumed to be silent carriers of the deadly virus; "unwitting co-conspirators" of the spread (and hence, the reason for this thread's poll).


From CDC (April 2021):

"We determined secondary attack rates (SAR) among close contacts of 59 asymptomatic and symptomatic coronavirus disease case-patients by presymptomatic and symptomatic exposure. We observed no transmission from asymptomatic case-patients and highest SAR through presymptomatic exposure. Rapid quarantine of close contacts with or without symptoms is needed to prevent presymptomatic transmission...

...Some studies may be prone to misclassify presymptomatic cases as asymptomatic, leading to heterogeneous reporting of SAR of asymptomatic cases,...

...In this cluster of COVID-19 cases, little to no transmission occurred from asymptomatic case-patients. Presymptomatic transmission was more frequent than symptomatic transmission. The serial interval was short; very short intervals occurred."

- CDC.gov - Analysis of Asymptomatic & Presymptomatic Transmission


So the CDC distinguishes between the two groups. To the CDC, "asymptomatic" mean "never showing any symptoms", and the time interval from someone presymptomatic to clearly showing symptoms is "very short".

However, media publications have cited the following study below (and those like it) as - what they believe - is proof that "asymptomatic" transmission accounts for half the spread. But the study specifically classifies "presymptomatic" and "never symptomatic" (the true group we're interested in) under the SAME umbrella category as "asymptomatic". This shows the CDC was accurate in their findings (above) regarding misclassification.

Even under peak infectious conditions, the study below shows that those who are "never symptomatic" accounted for only 8% transmission, while "pre-symptomatic" accounted for 42% (and then they add both numbers together for the 50% figure).

The study is here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774707 (use CTRL F and type in "never symptomatic" to find the section where this critical distinction is made).

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In other words, the underlying notion that has been propagated is incorrect.

Those who never show symptoms during normal infectious conditions do not significantly spread COVID to others.

 

[Jocund]

True

But when you get to heaven and God asks why you hear you was not supposed to be here yet. And you say because you did not want to take that evil vaccine.

Well lets hope God does not tell you you should have because he allowed that vaccine to happen to help people.

We can tempt God by not taking the things he has offered us.

Why would you assume that the jab is something that God has offered?

 

[JohnDB]

I have heard people use that excuse many times. I am not the first to use it

And he is using it as news? SINCE WHEN IS TWITTER NEWS?

I am not the one attacking him and using twitter to do it.

Get off it sis. Again, If your not going to repent. then back off.

You do not get the right to correct me when you have falsly accused me and refuse to repent

WOA....

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Welp we see how she will is, Not that I expected anything else

Again you refused when the truth was there in front of you

Its ok. You just proved my point

once again. Stop responding to me/

Practive what you preach

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Why would you assume that the jab is something that God has offered?

Why would you assume it is not?

 

[Jocund]

Why would you assume it is not?

Because God is not the author of confusion.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Because God is not the author of confusion.

There is nothing confusing about the vaccine man.

You either get it or you do not

 

[AandW]

A mother while pregnant [[is Vaccinated TWICE]] before giving Birth.
Baby is BORN healthy!
But it dies 2 1/2 months later.

If the Vaccines were going to KILL the Baby, IT WOULD NEVER FULLY DEVELOPED TO BE BORN!

It would have been stillborn!

Some people here are clueless!

 

[Jocund]

If the Vaccines were going to KILL the Baby, IT WOULD NEVER FULLY DEVELOPED TO BE BORN!

It would have been stillborn!

Why would you assume that?

 

[Yahshua]

The MONEY part came in when a BREATHING Virus, COVID-19, began MIRACULOUSLY Blood Clotting victims that went to your heart and either Stroked you out or killed you with a Massive Coronary!

From the literature, as far as I can tell - and of course I'm no scientist or doctor so take this with a pound of salt - it's the spike protein of the virus that's the cause of the clotting. It's the element that attaches the virus to the cell right, like a grappling hook or suction cup? Get a bunch of these floating around within the body - especially in a severe case - and they're going to grapple to many other cells (like blood cells, brain cells, etc), sticking them together.

That could be why vaccines are causing the same kind of blood clots in some folks. They inject instructions for producing the spike protein to trigger an immune response...but the produced protein will still do what it does right, because what's to stop it from not doing so? Free-floating grappling hooks.

I dunno, just reasoning through it.

 

[John146]

Why would you assume it is not?

I’m pretty sure the same group that funded the wuhan lab and gave us the virus is the same group who is behind the vaccine as well.