Vaccination?

[John146]

from the BLM riots to Joe Biden's presidential election and currently the antivaxxer campaign.

You’re comparing these three? Anti-vaccination crowd to BLM and the stolen election?

My whole argument is why this administration has suppressed real treatment drugs like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. Why? To push this vaccine. Why is it so important to jab everyone? That’s always a red flag, especially in these times of darkness.

We are in a spiritual warfare.

 

[rayzor]

You’re comparing these three? Anti-vaccination crowd to BLM and the stolen election?

My whole argument is why this administration has suppressed real treatment drugs like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. Why? To push this vaccine. Why is it so important to jab everyone? That’s always a red flag, especially in these times of darkness.

We are in a spiritual warfare.

we jab for distance and timeing,, hopefuly not to keep people off balence.To set them up up for a right cross.Just maybe we can knock our self to high heaven,,,,with the right cross.

 

[49]

WHY?

Especially since I know specifically who is responsible for creating Moderna's vaccine and who commissioned the coronavirus research in Wuhan...and what exactly causes the variants...and where the current variants came from.

And I know exactly who is responsible for the targeted misinformation campaign that you are regurgitating.

You say you know...

 

[JohnDB]

You’re comparing these three? Anti-vaccination crowd to BLM and the stolen election?

My whole argument is why this administration has suppressed real treatment drugs like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. Why? To push this vaccine. Why is it so important to jab everyone? That’s always a red flag, especially in these times of darkness.

We are in a spiritual warfare.

I'm not comparing them. These are issues that are part of a propaganda campaign.

The invermectin and Hydrochloriquine fake science just is stuff that came along that the disinformation campaign has promoted...it's purpose is to waste money, time, and resources. They aren't ever going to be successful treatments.
They have one and it isn't even the same class of drugs as those two. (As was always known)

 

[JohnDB]

You’re comparing these three? Anti-vaccination crowd to BLM and the stolen election?

My whole argument is why this administration has suppressed real treatment drugs like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. Why? To push this vaccine. Why is it so important to jab everyone? That’s always a red flag, especially in these times of darkness.

We are in a spiritual warfare.

I'm not comparing them. These are issues that are part of a propaganda campaign.

The invermectin and Hydrochloriquine fake science just is stuff that came along that the disinformation campaign has promoted...it's purpose is to waste money, time, and resources. They aren't ever going to be successful treatments.
They have one and it isn't even the same class of drugs as those two(As was always known)

 

[John146]

I'm not comparing them. These are issues that are part of a propaganda campaign.

The invermectin and Hydrochloriquine fake science just is stuff that came along that the disinformation campaign has promoted...it's purpose is to waste money, time, and resources. They aren't ever going to be successful treatments.
They have one and it isn't even the same class of drugs as those two. (As was always known)

I beg to differ my friend. Myself, my family and dozens of others I know took the frontline meds after getting COVID and recovered within 24 hours. I am a cancer survivor with a low immunity. COVID hit me pretty hard at first, but after taking the meds I was literally 100% within six hours. No joke.

I know a local doctor who has treated over 3,000 patients with these meds and all but one recovered fine. One person had to go to the hospital, overweight and diabetic. They ended up recovering. The doctor himself took hydroxychloroquine since last year, never wears a mask and NEVER got COVID.

The frontline meds are legit. They have been silenced to push the vaccine. Evil and dark times we live in.

 

[gb9]

You mean natural immunity? You are right this would be the best. But more then 250000 americans which died because of Covid reveals that you cant trust natural immunity.
You dont know before the infection you are natural immun or not.
I understand your fear that the vaccine can harm you, but i would not be satiesfied to defend non profed claimes.

you mean like " safe and effective"

well, there is a lot of possibility that the vax is not all that safe, and it was 100% certainly not effective .

so, there is one possible and one certain non- proofed claim.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

you mean like " safe and effective"

well, there is a lot of possibility that the vax is not all that safe, and it was 100% certainly not effective .

so, there is one possible and one certain non- proofed claim.

Well there’s a possibility it is not bad as what people say it is also so we must see that also.

and an 80 % effective vaccine is better than no vaccine at all in my view

Just saying

 

[gb9]

Well there’s a possibility it is not bad as what people say it is also so we must see that also.

and an 80 % effective vaccine is better than no vaccine at all in my view

Just saying

a strong immune system, with lots of real food, and vitamins is the most effective.

 

[JohnDB]

I beg to differ my friend. Myself, my family and dozens of others I know took the frontline meds after getting COVID and recovered within 24 hours. I am a cancer survivor with a low immunity. COVID hit me pretty hard at first, but after taking the meds I was literally 100% within six hours. No joke.

I know a local doctor who has treated over 3,000 patients with these meds and all but one recovered fine. One person had to go to the hospital, overweight and diabetic. They ended up recovering. The doctor himself took hydroxychloroquine since last year, never wears a mask and NEVER got COVID.

The frontline meds are legit. They have been silenced to push the vaccine. Evil and dark times we live in.

I doubt it...
There is no way Hydrochloriquine helped. It isn't chemically possible.
It would defy the laws of physics.

All the benefits have been placebo in effect.
It doesn't reduce viral load nor increase antibody production. Same thing with invermectin which behaves in a similar fashion to Hydrochloriquine.

All the stories and evidence is anecdotal...when tested in 8 different double blind trials they all had negative results except for one that had a worse outcome from participating in the trial.

They did these trials with thousands of people...all reporting extremely similar results. They tried it as a preventative and as an initial treatment and with zinc supplements and every possible way except mixed with scotch whiskey (which I volunteered to try)

Every single time it came out with no positive results over the placebo. Over 200,000 verified patients were involved with the various studies complete with medical histories with third party sponsor monitoring.
(And yes, I personally know a few sponsor monitors)

There's no way that the stuff you are claiming is true.

 

[John146]

I doubt it...
There is no way Hydrochloriquine helped. It isn't chemically possible.
It would defy the laws of physics.

All the benefits have been placebo in effect.
It doesn't reduce viral load nor increase antibody production. Same thing with invermectin which behaves in a similar fashion to Hydrochloriquine.

All the stories and evidence is anecdotal...when tested in 8 different double blind trials they all had negative results except for one that had a worse outcome from participating in the trial.

They did these trials with thousands of people...all reporting extremely similar results. They tried it as a preventative and as an initial treatment and with zinc supplements and every possible way except mixed with scotch whiskey (which I volunteered to try)

Every single time it came out with no positive results over the placebo. Over 200,000 verified patients were involved with the various studies complete with medical histories with third party sponsor monitoring.
(And yes, I personally know a few sponsor monitors)

There's no way that the stuff you are claiming is true.

Sorry brother, I’m not lying as you claim. You’ve been greatly deceived. I have nothing to gain. I want people to know they have great options other than an unknown jab.

 

[JohnDB]

Sorry brother, I’m not lying as you claim. You’ve been greatly deceived. I have nothing to gain. I want people to know they have great options other than an unknown jab.

So...
You are saying that you defied the laws of physics?

Up is down?
Dry is wet?
Light is dark?

It's not me who is deceived.

 

[Nehemiah6]

There is no way Hydrochloriquine helped. It isn't chemically possible.

This remark displays your ignorance about this matter and about the effectiveness of HCQ. You have been trying to bolster the false narrative of the conspirators so let's talk about the effectiveness of HCQ -- particularly the HCQ combo pack -- which was literally sabotaged by the medical established to PREVENT people from an early recovery which would prove that there was absolutely no need for an emergency authorization for the bogus vaccines or the bogus RT-PCR tests.

Former FOX reporter says media, WHO are covering up reports about effectiveness of Ivermectin, HCQ to treat coronavirus

“Research published by medRxiv this week found that hydroxychloroquine, when paired with azithromycin, could increase the coronavirus survival rate by nearly 200% in ventilated patients who have a severe version of COVID-19,” the Washington Examiner reported June 11.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/f...eness-of-ivermectin-hcq-to-treat-coronavirus/

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko added zinc to HCQ and azithromycin and had outstanding results. He sent a letter to Donald Trump and all medical doctors BACK IN MARCH 2020 informing them of his success rate. But what did they all do? Ignored him and literally sabotaged HCQ. That was and is a crime against humanity.

 

[JohnDB]

This remark displays your ignorance about this matter and about the effectiveness of HCQ. You have been trying to bolster the false narrative of the conspirators so let's talk about the effectiveness of HCQ -- particularly the HCQ combo pack -- which was literally sabotaged by the medical established to PREVENT people from an early recovery which would prove that there was absolutely no need for an emergency authorization for the bogus vaccines or the bogus RT-PCR tests.

Former FOX reporter says media, WHO are covering up reports about effectiveness of Ivermectin, HCQ to treat coronavirus

“Research published by medRxiv this week found that hydroxychloroquine, when paired with azithromycin, could increase the coronavirus survival rate by nearly 200% in ventilated patients who have a severe version of COVID-19,” the Washington Examiner reported June 11.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/f...eness-of-ivermectin-hcq-to-treat-coronavirus/

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko added zinc to HCQ and azithromycin and had outstanding results. He sent a letter to Donald Trump and all medical doctors BACK IN MARCH 2020 informing them of his success rate. But what did they all do? Ignored him and literally sabotaged HCQ. That was and is a crime against humanity.

Again...it is not...I related the truth... you are choosing to believe and promote a lie.

 

[SophieT]

You’re comparing these three? Anti-vaccination crowd to BLM and the stolen election?

My whole argument is why this administration has suppressed real treatment drugs like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. Why? To push this vaccine. Why is it so important to jab everyone? That’s always a red flag, especially in these times of darkness.

We are in a spiritual warfare.

he creates some of the most bizarre and untruthful posts in the entire forum

cannot be reasoned with but would love to talk to you about it for the next 20 pages

don't feed the troll(s)

 

[SophieT]

This remark displays your ignorance about this matter and about the effectiveness of HCQ. You have been trying to bolster the false narrative of the conspirators so let's talk about the effectiveness of HCQ -- particularly the HCQ combo pack -- which was literally sabotaged by the medical established to PREVENT people from an early recovery which would prove that there was absolutely no need for an emergency authorization for the bogus vaccines or the bogus RT-PCR tests.

Former FOX reporter says media, WHO are covering up reports about effectiveness of Ivermectin, HCQ to treat coronavirus

“Research published by medRxiv this week found that hydroxychloroquine, when paired with azithromycin, could increase the coronavirus survival rate by nearly 200% in ventilated patients who have a severe version of COVID-19,” the Washington Examiner reported June 11.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/f...eness-of-ivermectin-hcq-to-treat-coronavirus/

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko added zinc to HCQ and azithromycin and had outstanding results. He sent a letter to Donald Trump and all medical doctors BACK IN MARCH 2020 informing them of his success rate. But what did they all do? Ignored him and literally sabotaged HCQ. That was and is a crime against humanity.

his only comments are geared to create an argument

trolling

 

[AandW]

Was just reading some [interesting] information that I am NOT suggesting, but only found it makes my point MORE VALID.

According to USC, University of South Carolina, Yale, Brown, and several other Universities where Alternative Sciences are being created, they discovered, those with THC from smoking marijuana actually [[PREVENTS]] Covid Vaccine side effects that are Lethal!
^
Now, WHY is this Important?

If THC can stump Side Effects, then Covid Vaccines [[COULD HAVE NEVER]] been Gene Therapy or changing DNA!!

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A natural Herb GOD created literally stumps Vaccination Lethal Side Effect and SOME of you PEOPLE believe the Vaccine was able to complete Gene Therapy...

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The tears won't stop from LAUGHING SO HARD!!

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[rayzor]

Was just reading some [interesting] information that I am NOT suggesting, but only found it makes my point MORE VALID.

According to USC, University of South Carolina, Yale, Brown, and several other Universities where Alternative Sciences are being created, they discovered, those with THC from smoking marijuana actually [[PREVENTS]] Covid Vaccine side effects that are Lethal!
^
Now, WHY is this Important?

If THC can stump Side Effects, then Covid Vaccines [[COULD HAVE NEVER]] been Gene Therapy or changing DNA!!

hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahaha

A natural Herb GOD created literally stumps Vaccination Lethal Side Effect and SOME of you PEOPLE believe the Vaccine was able to complete Gene Therapy...

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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The tears won't stop from LAUGHING SO HARD!!

hahahahahahahahahahaha

most is natural aspirin from white willow bark. opium derivative from the poppy flower cocaine from coco leaf even coffee from coffee been.

 

[Aidan1]

you mean like " safe and effective"

well, there is a lot of possibility that the vax is not all that safe, and it was 100% certainly not effective .

so, there is one possible and one certain non- proofed claim.

I dont know someone who claimed that the vaccine is 100% safe or effective!
I dont know someone who claimed the vaccine has no sideeffects and cant harm.
What I know is, that there is present no better protection against the Virus.

 

[Angela53510]

report form CDC
Systemic reactions in persons aged >55 years, Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine and placebo




New or worsening muscle paina, n (%) Any251 (13.9)149 (8.3)477 (28.7)87 (5.3)Mild168 (9.3)100 (5.6)202 (12.2)57 (3.5)Moderate82 (4.6)46 (2.6)259 (15.6)29 (1.8)Severe1 (0.1)3 (0.2)16 (1.0)1 (0.1)Grade 40 (0)0 (0)0 (0)0 (0)
New or worsening joint paina, n (%) Any155 (8.6)109 (6.1)313 (18.9)61 (3.7)Mild101 (5.6)68 (3.8)161 (9.7)35 (2.1)Moderate52 (2.9)40 (2.2)145 (8.7)25 (1.5)Severe2 (0.1)1 (0.1)7 (0.4)1 (0.1)Grade 40 (0)0 (0)0 (0)0 (0)
Use of antipyretic or pain medication 358 (19.9)213 (11.9)625 (37.7)161 (9.8)


I have increased joint pain to such an increase my VA has now up my Disability %

knee's, shoulders, hands are locking up not just one finger all of them. My right Elbow, and feet. Lower back.

Can no longer sleep through the night must get up and sit on the couch. None of this was prior to being vaccinated and Nor did I experience any of this when I had COVID-19 back in Nov of last year.

I received my first vaccine of two in January the second in Mach of 2021. The joint pain has started just in July and increased over August and September. I constantly smell what seems to be the smell of fuel burning and most fruits and vegetables have a rancid taste of metal, and cannot eat cilantro anymore.

I'm so sorry to hear this happened to you. When you say "joints" it always reminds me of RA. I've had at least 5 people say the joint pain came after the vaccine, in an RA group I am in. Please get referred to a rheumatologist. If your blood tests say your inflammation numbers are low or zero, talk about sero-negative RA. That is what I have, took me 4 years & 4 rheumatologists to get diagnosed.

Typically, RA flares hurt terribly, you lose muscle strength instantly, and it is even hot on the joint, red and swollen. If this sounds like you, see a rheumatologist. The sooner you treat RA the milder it will be. You've had it for less than a year, you might be able to get on meds quickly that stop the progression of the disease. and yes, fingers do lock up when the joints are so swollen! In my early days, I had to manually open every finger with the other hand. I still do hand exercises daily. All of the fingers being swollen also sounds like RA. Osteoarthritis can do this, but the pain is cold and it only hits joints you have damaged in the past. Not all of them.

If what you are talking about is different than what I have mentioned, then don't bother seeing a specialist. But do keep pushing to figure out what it is. As I understand, the RA is in your genes, but something triggers it. In my case, I'm convinced it was allergy shots that triggered RA. One lady told me moving a dresser trigger hers!

This is another reason I am against mandatory shots. It's one thing to choose the vax, because you are high risk, completely different to be forced to take a vaccine, to keep your job, or even go out to a restaurant.

If it is RA, there is a huge variety of meds you can take to get the disease under control. And many with no side effects. Taking RA meds will extend your life span 5-10 years. To say nothing of stopping the deformities & the pain! I hope you can get this figured out soon, RA or not. Praying for you!