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My humble two cents…
Whether God actually created the Earth in 6 days or in a longer time does not change my belief that God could create the Earth, the universe, all of it in 6 days if He wanted to.
Someone else (I can’t remember who) had a great response to the question “do you really believe God created the Earth in 6 days?” He said (something akin to), “I believe God created the Earth in 6 days, I would believe God created the Earth in 1 day if the Bible said it- all I need is Genesis 1:1: ‘In the beginning GOD’.”
If I believe God could create the Earth in 6 days, why wouldn’t I think He actually created it in 6 days? Is it because that narrative doesn’t make logical sense to me based on what I understand of how nature works? My understanding is necessarily finite and limited in scope because I exist within creation at a point in time (I can only experience firsthand the here and now).
Moreover, there are some things that I am simply incapable of making logical sense of. For example, why does God love me? I certainly haven’t done anything to deserve it, in fact, I have done much to not deserve it. I can’t comprehend God’s mercy and grace, and I think that’s awesome.
Since I know that I can’t understand everything about God while I am on Earth, I will take His word to be true when he states that he created the Earth in 6 days. I don’t believe God lies, and I am not going to try to fit His truth inside my box of understanding if it means anything other than taking it at face value.
Whether God actually created the Earth in 6 days or in a longer time does not change my belief that God could create the Earth, the universe, all of it in 6 days if He wanted to.
Someone else (I can’t remember who) had a great response to the question “do you really believe God created the Earth in 6 days?” He said (something akin to), “I believe God created the Earth in 6 days, I would believe God created the Earth in 1 day if the Bible said it- all I need is Genesis 1:1: ‘In the beginning GOD’.”
If I believe God could create the Earth in 6 days, why wouldn’t I think He actually created it in 6 days? Is it because that narrative doesn’t make logical sense to me based on what I understand of how nature works? My understanding is necessarily finite and limited in scope because I exist within creation at a point in time (I can only experience firsthand the here and now).
Moreover, there are some things that I am simply incapable of making logical sense of. For example, why does God love me? I certainly haven’t done anything to deserve it, in fact, I have done much to not deserve it. I can’t comprehend God’s mercy and grace, and I think that’s awesome.
Since I know that I can’t understand everything about God while I am on Earth, I will take His word to be true when he states that he created the Earth in 6 days. I don’t believe God lies, and I am not going to try to fit His truth inside my box of understanding if it means anything other than taking it at face value.
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The way I see it; the six days of creation are not precisely enough defined to
be dogmatic about their length.
For that reason, I suggest invoking the fourteenth chapter of Romans where
Christ's followers are instructed to avoid demeaning others when they
disagree with our personal convictions in regard to debatable matters.
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The way I see it; the six days of creation are not precisely enough defined to
be dogmatic about their length.
For that reason, I suggest invoking the fourteenth chapter of Romans where
Christ's followers are instructed to avoid demeaning others when they
disagree with our personal convictions in regard to debatable matters.
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• 1Tim 6:20 . . O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so
called:
Well; the thing is: not all science is false. Quite a bit related to chemistry,
geology, anthropology, astronomy, atomic energy, electricity, medicine,
mathematics, biology, engineering, etc, all contain well-verified facts and
figures; many proven true by observation, experimentation, and practical
applications rather than just thinking them thru.
It's been said that Galileo felt religion and science are allies rather than
enemies-- two different languages telling the same story. He believed that
science and religion assist each other-- religion answers questions that
science cannot answer; while science answers questions about things that
religion knows nothing about.
NOTE: I assume that Galileo was talking about Christianity when he said that
seeing as how Catholicism was very strong in his lifetime.
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• 1Tim 6:20 . . O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so
called:
Well; the thing is: not all science is false. Quite a bit related to chemistry,
geology, anthropology, astronomy, atomic energy, electricity, medicine,
mathematics, biology, engineering, etc, all contain well-verified facts and
figures; many proven true by observation, experimentation, and practical
applications rather than just thinking them thru.
It's been said that Galileo felt religion and science are allies rather than
enemies-- two different languages telling the same story. He believed that
science and religion assist each other-- religion answers questions that
science cannot answer; while science answers questions about things that
religion knows nothing about.
NOTE: I assume that Galileo was talking about Christianity when he said that
seeing as how Catholicism was very strong in his lifetime.
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A remarkable condemnation....from someone who has contributed nothing of value to this thread. I have posted MANY articles that really just take a wrecking ball to the atheist textbook creation myth.
I am not guessing that mainstream science is dead wrong....I know so.
Did anyone even care to study what I have posted? Yes.....Andrew Hall can be a mind-bender. Nevertheless, I have spent much time studying his theories. And....he is essentially correct in many respects. Barry is correct also to a degree. But I do not agree completely with either.
Here you go. I doubt you will bother hearing this researcher either. Just staggering stuff....INSTANT FOSSILIZATION....
Absolutely plausible using the CORRECT MODEL.....the plasma/electric universe model.
I am not guessing that mainstream science is dead wrong....I know so.
Did anyone even care to study what I have posted? Yes.....Andrew Hall can be a mind-bender. Nevertheless, I have spent much time studying his theories. And....he is essentially correct in many respects. Barry is correct also to a degree. But I do not agree completely with either.
Here you go. I doubt you will bother hearing this researcher either. Just staggering stuff....INSTANT FOSSILIZATION....
Absolutely plausible using the CORRECT MODEL.....the plasma/electric universe model.
Completely disagree. The six days of the creation sage are inimitably precise....intentionally so. Consequently conscripted dogmatically into rituals ordained by the God who was the author of this creation.
More from Barry.....quite conclusive IMO. I have known this information for many years. Have you?
More from Barry.....quite conclusive IMO. I have known this information for many years. Have you?
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Try again....added an edit....
I think we saw from the Mt St Helens explosion and subsequent flood where A mini grand canyon and fossilization of trees occurred in a day.
These same things would occur in a great flood. Incuding electricity which occures in earth quakes. Which have also been shown to produce radioactive materials we see today.
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Don Scott - The Electric Sun
The sun....like all starts, is a plasmoid in arc mode. Undeniably so. I really don't know why the other theories persist.
A typical Z-pinch plasma stellar phenomenon, this same phenomenon that gives birth to.....pretty much EVERYTHING in the observable universe.
"It's easy to explain....electrically...."
The sun....like all starts, is a plasmoid in arc mode. Undeniably so. I really don't know why the other theories persist.
A typical Z-pinch plasma stellar phenomenon, this same phenomenon that gives birth to.....pretty much EVERYTHING in the observable universe.
"It's easy to explain....electrically...."
Had another thought about this. When Jesus fed the 5000, he didn't need to plant wheat seeds, water them, provide them with sunlight, weed around them, fertilize them, chase the birds away, watch them grow over 120 days, harvest the grain, mix it with water, and bake the loaves in a clay oven before distributing the food. Instead, "...Taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. Then he gave them to the disciples, and the disciples gave them to the people. They all ate and were satisfied, and the disciples picked up twelve basketfuls of broken pieces that were left over. The number of those who ate was about five thousand men, besides women and children." - Matthew 14:19-21 NIV
This is just one example, but there are plenty more. When Jesus called Simon Peter to be a disciple after Peter had fished all night without catching anything, Jesus commanded him to try once more. Upon letting down the nets again, Peter caught so many fish that the nets began to break, so they needed help from another boat. After filling the boats, there were so many fish that the boats began to sink. I think it's fair to assume that it wasn't a case where all these fish were in the lake but were crafty enough to avoid the nets at night and then suddenly all get caught at once in the morning. I also think it's fair to assume that it wasn't a case of huge fish egg nurseries in the lake that happened to hatch schools of fully grown fish that morning who all ended up in the net.
And let's not forget that Jesus gave sight to the blind, healed the sick, made the lame man walk, raised the dead from their graves, and even rose from the dead himself.
The fact is that we live in a natural world created by a supernatural God. God doesn't need an egg to create a chicken. God can create things (like bread, fish, or galaxies) out of nothing simply by commanding them into existence. And He can create them at any point in their life cycle and still include in their makeup hints of what may theoretically have come before. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? God came before both and He created birds that lay eggs that hatch more birds. So that when we look at a bird today, science says that birds hatch from eggs but we know the first bird was created by God on the fifth day of creation. Science says the universe must be billions of years old because that's the way light travels, but we know that "...Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done." Genesis 1:31 - 2:3 NIV
This is just one example, but there are plenty more. When Jesus called Simon Peter to be a disciple after Peter had fished all night without catching anything, Jesus commanded him to try once more. Upon letting down the nets again, Peter caught so many fish that the nets began to break, so they needed help from another boat. After filling the boats, there were so many fish that the boats began to sink. I think it's fair to assume that it wasn't a case where all these fish were in the lake but were crafty enough to avoid the nets at night and then suddenly all get caught at once in the morning. I also think it's fair to assume that it wasn't a case of huge fish egg nurseries in the lake that happened to hatch schools of fully grown fish that morning who all ended up in the net.
And let's not forget that Jesus gave sight to the blind, healed the sick, made the lame man walk, raised the dead from their graves, and even rose from the dead himself.
The fact is that we live in a natural world created by a supernatural God. God doesn't need an egg to create a chicken. God can create things (like bread, fish, or galaxies) out of nothing simply by commanding them into existence. And He can create them at any point in their life cycle and still include in their makeup hints of what may theoretically have come before. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? God came before both and He created birds that lay eggs that hatch more birds. So that when we look at a bird today, science says that birds hatch from eggs but we know the first bird was created by God on the fifth day of creation. Science says the universe must be billions of years old because that's the way light travels, but we know that "...Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done." Genesis 1:31 - 2:3 NIV
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