The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???
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You start with TRUTH and end with a lie.
NOAH went through the Great Tribulation - He was faithful to the END and God KEPT him from His wrath just as the LORD will KEEP those who Love Him.
The RESURRECTION is what we are to SEEK After - The First Resurrection
If we are alive and remain unto His Coming we will be raptured AFTER the RESURRECTION = 1 Thessalonians 4
NOAH went through the Great Tribulation - He was faithful to the END and God KEPT him from His wrath just as the LORD will KEEP those who Love Him.
The RESURRECTION is what we are to SEEK After - The First Resurrection
If we are alive and remain unto His Coming we will be raptured AFTER the RESURRECTION = 1 Thessalonians 4
i expect the SAME deliverance from God's wrath just as He promised - 1 Thess 1:10
and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.
Can you see what is said here?
#1. wait for His Coming
#2.) His Resurrection
#3.) Delivered from God's wrath
EXACTLY what He said in Matt 24 and Revelation
satan's wrath is temporary and limited to the death of the flesh
God's wrath is eternal
and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.
Can you see what is said here?
#1. wait for His Coming
#2.) His Resurrection
#3.) Delivered from God's wrath
EXACTLY what He said in Matt 24 and Revelation
satan's wrath is temporary and limited to the death of the flesh
God's wrath is eternal
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1Cor 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Cor 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1Cor 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
1Cor 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
1Cor 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
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1Cor 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1Cor 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
1Cor 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
1Cor 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
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Pre-wrath not pre-trib
Pre-Judgment- if you mean God's wrath.
but if you are attempting to say pre-judgment is pre-trib - that is an error and not truth.
NOAH went through the Great Tribulation of His Day.
Jesus said: as in the Days of Noah - are you living in the Days of Naoh? i see the wickedness abounding and heading for the Day of the Wrath of the Lamb - do you?
and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.
Thank You my Brother/Sister??? - Yes Agree - this is why i try to say as little as i can in hope that the Scripture can be seen
This is very serious to make a doctrine from thin air that cannot be found in Scripture unless someone "adds to or takes away" from what God did say.
Do you know that once a lie is perpetrated into our minds it becomes what we see
Pre-Judgment- if you mean God's wrath.
but if you are attempting to say pre-judgment is pre-trib - that is an error and not truth.
NOAH went through the Great Tribulation of His Day.
Jesus said: as in the Days of Noah - are you living in the Days of Naoh? i see the wickedness abounding and heading for the Day of the Wrath of the Lamb - do you?
and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.
Thank You my Brother/Sister??? - Yes Agree - this is why i try to say as little as i can in hope that the Scripture can be seen
This is very serious to make a doctrine from thin air that cannot be found in Scripture unless someone "adds to or takes away" from what God did say.
Do you know that once a lie is perpetrated into our minds it becomes what we see
The rapture cannot occur until the Ressurection - you have it in reverse in your mind and every scripture you look at you see rapture.
Because the lie of pre-trib rapture replace the words of Christ in your mind, therefore you see rapture BEFORE His Second Coming and Before the Resurrection.
1 Thess 4 is Revelation 20
Because the lie of pre-trib rapture replace the words of Christ in your mind, therefore you see rapture BEFORE His Second Coming and Before the Resurrection.
1 Thess 4 is Revelation 20
Noah preached 100 years during the Greatest Tribulation the World had ever seen.
Once again, the world will experience this and even greater then Noah's day, just as the Lord said.
It is now upon us, but not fully, and it will continue to grow in wickedness and Tribulation until the Lord's Second Coming.
Once again, the world will experience this and even greater then Noah's day, just as the Lord said.
It is now upon us, but not fully, and it will continue to grow in wickedness and Tribulation until the Lord's Second Coming.
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Oh really? What tribulation occured then? They seemed to be living the good life then. They were eating and drinking and being merry, Their life was so good they laughed at Noah.
come one man. When you say stuff like this it does not help your case.
Noah did not experience tribulation. He was saved out of it.
come one man. When you say stuff like this it does not help your case.
Noah did not experience tribulation. He was saved out of it.
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AGREE - the rapture is for those who are alive and remain at His Coming.
The rapture cannot go before the RESURRECTION - 1 Thess 4 agrees with Rev 20
The souls you see in Heaven are the souls of the Saints who have already died and who will continue to die until the Lord's Second Coming = 1 Thess 4 = Rev 6:9-11, Rev 14: 9-13 and Rev 19 and Rev 20 when the RESURRECTION occurs.
The rapture cannot go before the RESURRECTION - 1 Thess 4 agrees with Rev 20
The souls you see in Heaven are the souls of the Saints who have already died and who will continue to die until the Lord's Second Coming = 1 Thess 4 = Rev 6:9-11, Rev 14: 9-13 and Rev 19 and Rev 20 when the RESURRECTION occurs.
We are discussing the rapture.
Noah left the earth...no lie can cover that up
Noah was gathered prejudgement into the ark...no lie can cover that up
Noah ascended over a mile into the heavens....no lie can cover that up
Noah RETURNED from the clouds POSTJUDGEMENT BACK TO EARTH......no lie can cover that up.
Jesus framed Noah " before the flood" and normal life on the planet....no lie can cover that up.
You call Jesus a liar?
Noah left the earth...no lie can cover that up
Noah was gathered prejudgement into the ark...no lie can cover that up
Noah ascended over a mile into the heavens....no lie can cover that up
Noah RETURNED from the clouds POSTJUDGEMENT BACK TO EARTH......no lie can cover that up.
Jesus framed Noah " before the flood" and normal life on the planet....no lie can cover that up.
You call Jesus a liar?
i do not know about that - i follow what God did say - not what HE did NOT say
i have to go now - Thank You for your love and prayers - tell everyone i love them because Christ Loves them and me
Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God.
Stay with His Words, do not add to them or take away, believe every one of them.
i have to go now - Thank You for your love and prayers - tell everyone i love them because Christ Loves them and me
Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God.
Stay with His Words, do not add to them or take away, believe every one of them.