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kaylagrl · Oct 2, 2021

"Abortion is a blessing,abortion is an act of love, abortion is freedom" said a Texas abortion provider testifying during a House Oversight Committee hearing on abortion restrictions. She was speaking against the Texas bill banning abortions after a fetal heartbeat can be detected. If that comment wasn't incredulous enough she continued saying the " law has disproportionally hurt minorities. I know firsthand that abortion saves lives."

I say it often, you can't support abortion and be a Christian. It simple isn't possible. But these comments are literally detached from reality. Abortion hits minorties the hardest. And that's because that's what racist founder Margret Sanger intended it to do. Planned Parenthood carries on her racist work to this day. 60 million abortions since Roe and she claims abortions saves lives. Can you fathom saying abortion is an act of love?! Crazy world we live in.

tourist · Oct 2, 2021

kaylagrl said:

Must be an act of tough love.

Hungry · Oct 2, 2021

kaylagrl said:

Ok, let’s debate. True, the ghettos are targeted for planned parenthood clinics. I’ve heard the statistic is about 10/1 impoverished African American to other. Had 55,000,000 babies been born to impoverished single mothers since 1973 (Roe vs. Wade) is that a blessing? There has been the possibility of at least 3 generations since then compounding this number. Since welfare has proven to be generational as is crime, and fatherlessness what would that have done? I believe the way the elites control populations is by starting wars. Then in order to maintain status quo, we would send our surplus to die and kill other people and if returned, psychologically damaged. Also racism would escalate. I hate abortion. As far as I’m concerned I would cast my vote for mandatory and voluntary sterilization. Violent criminals and those relying on the government, without exception. Those who volunteer before 20 yrs of age get $50,000 tax free from the government.

ZNP · Oct 2, 2021

tourist said:

How insulting to the mothers to say that it is an act of love to kill their babies rather than to let the mother raise them.

tourist · Oct 2, 2021

Abortion is cold-blooded premeditated murder.

ZNP · Oct 2, 2021

tourist said:

And yet they refer to it as "Love". The tender mercies of the ruthless are cruel.

p_rehbein · Oct 2, 2021

I'm just guessing here, but that Ladies mother must not have loved her, right?

kaylagrl · Oct 3, 2021

Hungry said:

Ok, let’s debate. True, the ghettos are targeted for planned parenthood clinics. I’ve heard the statistic is about 10/1 impoverished African American to other. Had 55,000,000 babies been born to impoverished single mothers since 1973 (Roe vs. Wade) is that a blessing? There has been the possibility of at least 3 generations since then compounding this number. Since welfare has proven to be generational as is crime, and fatherlessness what would that have done? [/QUOTE]

My grandmother raised 6 boys on her own with no help from anyone. They saw hard times but every one turned out to be a productive member of society. My father, an evangelist. Yes, I'd certainly call that a blessing. Are you saying only children raised from well to do homes are a blessing? Because I'd put forward one Hunter Biden. You're reasoning is sorely skewed.

Secondly look into the facts of how homes of POC were before the gov't stepped in to "help" with welfare. I believe there were 60% of fathers in the home.From 1890 to 1950, black women had a higher marriage rate than white women. And in 1950, just 9% of black children lived without their father. Today, only 44% ( of fathers) are in the home. The rate of black out-of-wedlock births went from 24.5% in 1964 to 70.7% by 1994, roughly where it stands today.

In the words of Harvard’s Paul Peterson, “some programs actively discouraged marriage,” because “welfare assistance went to mothers so long as no male was boarding in the household… Marriage to an employed male, even one earning the minimum wage, placed at risk a mother’s economic well-being.” Infamous “man in the house” rules meant that welfare workers would randomly appear in homes to check and see if the mother was accurately reporting her family-status.That may be a reason why, in 1964, only 7% of American children were born out of wedlock, compared to 40% today. “the government paid mothers to keep fathers out of the home—and paid them well.” One study found that almost a third of Americans said they personally know someone who chose not to marry due to the fear of losing a benefit.

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kaylagrl · Oct 3, 2021

Tried to edit that over 3 times and it came out a jumbled mess. Sorry. This last quote is mine...

The way elites control populations is through abortion. We've had sterilization before, it didn't go very well remember? That was Margret Sangers whole song and dance. Too many children were being born, only a certain stock should be allowed to breed. Now we have black babies that are three times more likely to be aborted than white babies. In 2017 I believe it was, there were more black babies aborted than born in NYC. Margret Sanger was a racist and her work is still being carried out today. God's plan was for the family, for children, raised on the Word of God to spread that news to hopeless generations. His plan wasn't for 60 million children to be murdered in the womb. I'm glad you hate abortion, because it is racism.

Hungry · Oct 3, 2021

kaylagrl said:

True abortion is population control. God's population control is starvation. So if we stop feeding poor people I guess we can just let nature take its course. If it's up to the elites whether to mandatory sterilize, abort or start wars which do you find is most humane? Clearly people in general aren't going to stop having sex, otherwise the abortion clinics would close down. Problem solved.

p_rehbein · Oct 4, 2021

Hungry said:

I have to disagree with this. God IS LOVE. I refuse to believe God selects certain people to starve to death to "control the population" of His earth.

I am fairly certain the Church is charged by God to take care of peoples in danger of starvation. God surely grieves that His Church is so uncaring of others, and only caring of self, or denominational ideologies.

p_rehbein · Oct 4, 2021

Sanger, the Eugenics Movement, were surely racist, and hell bent on killing/eliminating the poor, multi racial, and uneducated peoples of the world.

The "social programs" the Socialist Liberals are enacting today mirror the programs of the Eugenics Movement. AND, they do not even try to hide their intent. What disturbs me is that the poor, multi racial, and uneducated peoples of America CONTINUE TO VOTE for the Socialist Liberals that enact the programs designed to eliminate them from the human race..............Blinded by promises of 'FREE, FREE, FREE".

tourist · Oct 4, 2021

Hungry said:

I think that is Satan's way of controlling surplus population. Read that in a book somewhere a long time ago.

Hungry · Oct 4, 2021

p_rehbein said:

So if there is more people than food in an area, nobody starves to death? In the wild mammalian mothers kill their offspring if they are deformed or sickly. If the mother is malnourished and can’t provide milk she kills and eats her babies. This is God’s design. When people are stressed and malnourished testosterone is supposed to plummet. That is God’s design. We humans use sex for entertainment. Starvation stricken communities don’t need more kids but women keep having them. Christians keep feeding them not solving the problem, rather increasing it. Then militant gangs go slaughter others. Its response to our carnal nature created by God.

p_rehbein · Oct 4, 2021

Hungry said:

Why do you say it is Gods design? Do these peoples NOT have the free will to relocate? Do their Governments NOT have the ability to assist them in relocation?

Rather than blame God, turn your blame towards those who deserve it. Consider a bit deeper WHO is REALLY to BLAME.

All men have the "free will" to chose. Their choice is not Gods fault. God would have ALL MEN be saved! Sadly, many, many choose death over life. Regardless of the reason. As for those such as you describe, there is an entire world of peoples who have the resources and ability to rescue such, yet, sadly, due to their love of "self", they do nothing. Do not blame God for that.

Free Will is a GIFT from God. Yet, it comes with a "warning label." That warning label is the Holy Bible which describes what will be reaped by all men according to the choices they make.

Gina3111_marriedToGod · Oct 4, 2021

kaylagrl said:

You do know why doctors started doing abortions right? I mean I don’t agree with abortion but I wonder if those of you against a woman’s right to have one realize why historically abortion became legal and doctors started to provide the service?

You do know that before abortion was provided and legal, many women who no longer wanted to be pregnant would look for certain drugs and herbs to try to kill the baby and would end up killing themselves, right?
I agree that it’s murder however society will always have women who want to terminate their pregnancies and there’s a reason why it became legal, they needed safe options to be able to terminate a pregnancy. Without the ability to safely go to a doctor, women will return to cooking up concoctions, looking for certain chemicals or going to illegal hidden docs to try to terminate the pregnancy.

Hungry · Oct 5, 2021

p_rehbein said:

I’m not certain you are following or you choose not to see. When God stops the womb we artificially inseminate. When disease takes effect, we make potions to intervene. Regardless of societal health, capability and provision people keep making babies. If the populations outgrow the area and it no longer supports those living there, if there’s nowhere to go, sanitary conditions and lack of sustenance thins the herd. The strong survive and the weak die. That’s how God designed nature. We interfere with God’s design. That’s why creation groans. We are the cancer of creation. Just like normal cells no longer function in balance with the body, they consume and grow out of proportion. Cities are like tumours leaching sustenance from thousands of miles, destroying wildlife, disturbing eco balance with pollution. We destroy everything except ourselves. That’s why God let’s mass populations die. He can stop starvation and war and disease and abortion but He doesn’t. It may be evil but it is a necessary evil. All things God designed to thin the man herd we circumvented. Now the only thing left is man himself and when evil trickles through completely God Himself will wipe them out.

kaylagrl · Oct 5, 2021

Gina3111_marriedToGod said:

I know the excuse that was used, yes. But those numbers were actually fake. The man who came up with those false numbers actually became a pro-life supporter and he admitted that those numbers were faked. He said 5- 10,000 women died from back alley abortions, it wasn't true, it was far less. Two points to that are 1. 62 million unborn children have been murdered in their mothers womb 2. We have no stats on how many woman have died from having an abortion. CA hasn't reported those stats in years.

Gina3111_marriedToGod said:

No, sorry, I disagree. People will always do drugs, people will always murder, do just let it continue? Abortion is murder, plain and simple. 62 million abortions, that we know of, have taken childrens lives. If you don't think that grieves the heart of God... smh Abortions were supposed to be safe and rare, now they are being used as birth control. We know, at a certain age a baby feels pain. Doctors are making fortunes off of killing the unborn.

According to the Guttmacher Institute, only 38 states require abortions to be performed by a licensed physician. Only 19 states require abortions be performed in a hospital after a specific point in pregnancy. Only 18 states mandate a woman be given counseling before an abortion that informs her of: the link between abortion and breast cancer, the ability of an unborn child to feel pain, or the long-term mental health consequences for women. Only 27 states require parental consent for a minor’s abortion. Finally, 22 states allow abortion up until the moment of birth.Fourth, the experience of other countries shows that restricting abortion does not cause a rise in maternal deaths. Until recently, the Republic of Ireland had very restrictive abortion laws, yet, had a very low maternal mortality rate.After making abortion illegal in 1989, Chile saw its maternal mortality rate 17 continue to decline.
Similarly, after Poland banned abortion in 1993, its maternal mortality rate decreased from 15/100,000 in 1990 to 7.3/100,000 in 1999. Finally, Malta, the only country in Europe where abortion remains entirely illegal, has a very low maternal mortality rate of 8/100,000. The back alley abortions are a myth used by Planned Parenthood to continue their racist agenda. Christians should never support nor vote for anyone that supports abortion.

ZNP · Oct 5, 2021

kaylagrl said:

What, people who demand the right to kill babies also lie to us?

EmilyNats · Oct 5, 2021

"Law has disproportionally hurt minorities."

Take the filter off and it translates to: "Minorities are too stupid and uneducated to practice good judgment and self-control."

Planned Parenthood is the same thing to Por-choicers as Hunting season is - a way to keep a certain population in check.

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