‘It’s about time’: Biden puts the screws on the unvaccinated

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Gardenias

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This is what the Lord has to say about this issue:

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Mat 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Mat 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
Mat 10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Mat 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.


Luk 12:49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
Luk 12:50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!
Luk 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
Luk 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
Luk 12:53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Joh 7:43 So there was a division among the people because of him.


So you see those that stand for the Truth that is Christ Jesus our Lord and His Apostles will cause a division between the goats and the sheep. What you must realize that many here are not truly the disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, why? Because you shall know them by their fruit and their works.



You come barrelling into this site like a raging bull.

You have called people unsaved,judged others to be non believers and called many decievers and liars!

Jesus was speaking of his Spirit calling out to his believers how a house can be divided if all or part of that household is saved and the persecutions that would come!.
Believers against non believers!

You're arrogant, antigonastic, vicious in your speech to others, show no christian attributes or fruit of the Spirit!
 

JTB

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This is what the Lord has to say about this issue:

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Mat 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Mat 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
Mat 10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Mat 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.


Luk 12:49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
Luk 12:50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!
Luk 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
Luk 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
Luk 12:53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Joh 7:43 So there was a division among the people because of him.


So you see those that stand for the Truth that is Christ Jesus our Lord and His Apostles will cause a division between the goats and the sheep. What you must realize that many here are not truly the disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, why? Because you shall know them by their fruit and their works.
Context here is essential.

Do these not speak of dividing saved from unsaved? Redeemed from the world?

Are believers not supposed to be of one mind ? (yeah good luck with that!)
 

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First of all BioRxiv is supported by the Masonic Illumanati group of the "Rockefeller University" and Harvard University and other NEW World Order supporters........so their report is Fraudulent and not trust worthy.

National Institutes of Health is also corrupt and supporters of the Death Jab......NOT a trust worthy web-site!
Also Science.org is also another NWO corrupt medical science site.......NOT to be trusted so anything have to say is False and all lies!

So please spare us your nonsensical usage of Murderous, Lying satanic medical sites.
Okay so you come "drive by" spew accusations and act as if everything you say is gospel truth, so screw all those site that you say lie, with no kind of evidence, suggesting I should listen to you, a random stranger on the internet that I don't know, nor knows me, who backs up what he says with less than CNN. No thanks. Try actually backing up what you say, until then you're words are nothing more than an empty childish attack.

Okay buddy, looks like you got your "jabs" in. Keep spreading the love, with adding ZERO. Way to go?
 
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Context here is essential.

Do these not speak of dividing saved from unsaved? Redeemed from the world?

Are believers not supposed to be of one mind ? (yeah good luck with that!)
No it means exactly what it means in context, that those who are religious, will resist and hate those who believe in Christ and what He stood for.
Christ's truth will cause division, between true believer's and the self-righteous religious zealots.
That will happen between the Fake Christ followers and the true ones.
And it will happen between the unsaved and the Righteous.
Plain and simple actually.
It's just those who walk in the flesh will hate what the Holy Spirit reveals to those who walk in the Spirit. Paul stated it "the flesh warreth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh." Quite simple actually.
Also it speaks that it will separate the goats from the Sheep. Did not Christ state that "HIS Sheep will know Him, and hear His Voice, and walk in His Ways, and not after the Spirit of the world?
Well the spirit of the world is alive in well within this "Christian chat" site. Peace will never prevail when there is compromise amongst those that "proclaim" they follow Christ, but follow the fleshly desires of their flesh.

I hope that answers your question.......
 
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Okay so you come "drive by" spew accusations and act as if everything you say is gospel truth, so screw all those site that you say lie, with no kind of evidence, suggesting I should listen to you, a random stranger on the internet that I don't know, nor knows me, who backs up what he says with less than CNN. No thanks. Try actually backing up what you say, until then you're words are nothing more than an empty childish attack.

Okay buddy, looks like you got your "jabs" in. Keep spreading the love, with adding ZERO. Way to go?
I've done the research, you do it also............
I'm not here to enable your slothful ways.......

What I posted I went to those sites and did further research with whom they receive funding and supported by......NWO all the Way.
It's that you are not being honest so you just attack with such silly words, the darts of the enemy.
You are part of the Walking Dead, you take the banner of Christ, but are dead in your trespasses and sins. In other words, you are religious, and the Lord is coming to judge the world, the Religious and the unbeliever's and those who say that they are the Lords, but HE knows you not.

Remember the 10 Virgins? The 5 Wise and the 5 foolish? Well that time is here:
Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.


That time is now.....
 

JTB

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No it means exactly what it means in context, that those who are religious, will resist and hate those who believe in Christ and what He stood for.
Christ's truth will cause division, between true believer's and the self-righteous religious zealots.
That will happen between the Fake Christ followers and the true ones.
And it will happen between the unsaved and the Righteous.
Plain and simple actually.
It's just those who walk in the flesh will hate what the Holy Spirit reveals to those who walk in the Spirit. Paul stated it "the flesh warreth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh." Quite simple actually.
Also it speaks that it will separate the goats from the Sheep. Did not Christ state that "HIS Sheep will know Him, and hear His Voice, and walk in His Ways, and not after the Spirit of the world?
Well the spirit of the world is alive in well within this "Christian chat" site. Peace will never prevail when there is compromise amongst those that "proclaim" they follow Christ, but follow the fleshly desires of their flesh.

I hope that answers your question.......
I'm with ya on that one
 

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Wrong, we are to seek His direction and guidance in ALL things, the majority who think they are Christian yet do not follow this command will think as you do since you lean on your own understanding which we are commanded to NOT do.
Where did I ever say we're not to seek his direction and guidance? I actually say that all time on other sites. And why should you charge that I'm leaning on my own understanding? Maybe a baseless accusation?
 
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This is extremism. There are huge amounts of people who ARE trusting in the Lord who took the vaccine and if you're going to say that taking a vaccine takes one out of the trusting group then you have to say that about EVERY single medicine or medical procedure. You might want to consider stop bringing division into the body of Christ by saying such a thing. (by the way I haven't taken a vaccine but I'm not going to demean dear precious brethren which do)
Actually what he is stating is not extremeism, what you are representing is extremism. Those who take the death jab, are truly NOT trusting in the Lord because most of them are taking it for the wrong reasons. I know some who have taken it, and it was for all the wrong reasons. Also you are truly jumping the gun by trying to accuse this man of stating that all medications or medical procedure's are in the same category, when he NEVER stated that. Keep to the issue, it's all about the poisonous death jab, nothing more. Those who say they are Christians and are trusting in the Lord and taking the jab are either, babe's in Christ because they are truly and innocently ignorant of the Lord's ways and His desires for them, or they are deceived in thinking it's okay with the Lord when it is not. So either they are babes or they are just religious believer's believing the liars and murderer's who are pushing this death jab because of Fear, loss of a job, loss of being with families, want to travel, eat out, or just to comply so those who are not saved can feel safe due to their fear of death.
Those like you are the ones being divisive and bring division based on a fraudulent agenda. Because those of us who stand for the Truth and against the lies you believe will be an offense to those who are not obedient to the Lord and you don't like it. It's almost like the same issue about a "false" unity with those who believe in Ecumenical-ism, Love can never be offered up on the Altar to support a lie and deception...period. Truth....the Sword of Truth, the Lord's Word is meant to cause division and no peace, because we can not support the works of the flesh and the devil.
I like you do not demean those who take the jab, I will pity them, and when they suffer from the deadly affects of the death jab, I will be there to comfort them and lead them to confess their error in not trusting in the Lord to provide ALL things for them. Also will assist where I am able to attend to their personal needs, as far as I am able.

The Lord bless you.....
 

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It is about time Biden takes a cognitive test and gets appropriately diagnosed so that he can get the help he truly needs...instead of being allowed to continue to ruin our nation and continue to run our nation into the ground on every single one of his stupid policies.

He is definitely more than a few screws loose if you ask me....just saying
Think that thru .... get rid of Biden and what do we have? President Harris? Nooooo thank you, I'll stick with the addled old man.
 
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Think that thru .... get rid of Biden and what do we have? President Harris? Nooooo thank you, I'll stick with the addled old man.
I am surprised she has not taken over as of yet.
I thank the Lord that this Jezebel Feminist Anti-christ lover, has not taken his place.
The Lord has had mercy......
 

JTB

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I am surprised she has not taken over as of yet.
I thank the Lord that this Jezebel Feminist Anti-christ lover, has not taken his place.
The Lord has had mercy......
I believe the election was rigged, but not as most think. The libs want Harris in but she couldn't have won on her own. So she rides in on Biden's coat tails, and takes over when he's found to be incompetent. Biden will never finish out his first term
 

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Those who take the death jab, are truly NOT trusting in the Lord because most of them are taking it for the wrong reasons.
So you're agreeing some might be taking it for the right reasons? It seems that's what you're acknowledging. But for you what are the wrong reasons? And you are being extreme if two years from now by far the majority of people that took a vaccine aren't dead. Why not just admit you can't say for an absolute what is going to take place?

Those who say they are Christians and are trusting in the Lord and taking the jab are either, babe's in Christ because they are truly and innocently ignorant of the Lord's ways and His desires for them, or they are deceived in thinking it's okay with the Lord when it is not.
OK that's your opinion. People will have to decide if every word your saying is some kind of gold standard and that you're infalliable in everything you're saying. I'd advise caution to people though and don't be moved by anyone else's assertion no matter how strong they might want to make them. Everyone get the feel in your own mind and consceince before God what you feel he's leading you to do.

So either they are babes or they are just religious believer's believing the liars and murderer's who are pushing this death jab
Sorry but again absoulte extrmemeim. If it was the death jab in some absoulte way 2/3 of the planet would now be dead. They're not. So maybe you need to modify your thinking?

because of Fear, loss of a job, loss of being with families, want to travel, eat out, or just to comply so those who are not saved can feel safe due to their fear of death.
So your position is EVERYBODY I mean EVERYBODY should absolutely allow themselves to be fired, be terminated or quit their jobs. And are you in the same position as they? Maybe you are maybe you're not but just curious. I've seen some which definitely ARE NOT. They might be on welfare spending 24 hours a day typing on keyboards, retired like myself or in their own business. Point...a great many saying what you say it's easy for them to say it. No skin off their nose.

Now coudn't God give them another job? I suppose and YES know he could. Could it be though at the end of life's journey he'd tell them YES I gave you another job for I do love you...however if you were listening closely you might have heard me tell you something different. If there was something nefarious about the vaccines I would have given you immunity. It seems this is the way you'd have it. All Christians get pulled off the floor of untold millions of work places where they've been an influence for God as the LIGHT of the world. You don't think that would Satan wanting that to happen? No I'm not saying people should take the vaccine. And I"m not saying they shouldn't. It's above my pay grade and I believe it is yours to think you can tell people as an absolute what they should do. That should be between them and God.

Because those of us who stand for the Truth and against the lies you believe ...
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Sorry friend you're being presumptuous. I'm not claiming I don't believe there isn't a measure of truth of what you say. I'm not however signing onto your insinuation you have absolute revelation from God about every aspect of this subject and nor should anybody else. They need to get the feel from the Spirit of God himself this is too big an issue to just take what somebody on the internet wants to assert.

The Lord bless you.....
And you to LuvofChrist and you too.
 

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You come barrelling into this site like a raging bull.

You have called people unsaved,judged others to be non believers and called many decievers and liars!

Jesus was speaking of his Spirit calling out to his believers how a house can be divided if all or part of that household is saved and the persecutions that would come!.
Believers against non believers!

You're arrogant, antigonastic, vicious in your speech to others, show no christian attributes or fruit of the Spirit!
It's my feeling and I hope yours too that this individual could still be a precious brother in the Lord but some people have a zeal but not according to knowledge that is spiritual knowledge of how brothers should conduct themselves over disputable matters. It's not even always about being right but about being right THE RIGHT WAY. Good I think that all of us seek to endeavor to keep the Commandment of love. Not always easy but something we need to strive to do.
 

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You come barrelling into this site like a raging bull.

You have called people unsaved,judged others to be non believers and called many decievers and liars!

Jesus was speaking of his Spirit calling out to his believers how a house can be divided if all or part of that household is saved and the persecutions that would come!.
Believers against non believers!

You're arrogant, antigonastic, vicious in your speech to others, show no christian attributes or fruit of the Spirit!
Antigonastic! What is that? It sounds terrible! Is this a new term for militant feminists? (anti gonads?)
 

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So then why did the Israelis do this "imaginary" study since they have embraced the vaccines more than any other country?

Second question, why is Israel having a surge in Covid hospitalizations seeing they have vaccinated 80% of the population?

Third question, since when did natural immunity that you get when you recover from a disease, since when did that become "junk science"?
1) The American economy drives much of the world economy... jealousy or envy is a driving factor...as well as personal enrichment from the US not recovering first from the pandemic (as we have the best medicine and medical community over and above every other nation in existence...their best hope lies in a social media campaign so that we destroy ourselves...this media campaign is directly pointed with propaganda at shaping opinion that is against your best interests. )

2) Jewish State of Israel is having a "surge" of higher percentages than before when they had no vaccinations...but the numbers are drastically lower than the first time around. Israel likes to promote their nation as being extremely desirable by the healthiest and most luxurious travel and business destination in the area...as well as Israel sells groceries and technology everywhere. Israel is known for the best groceries in the neighborhood.

3) Natural immunity is often NOT as good as vaccinated immunity. There's a huge number of diseases that this has been proven repeatedly. Not to mention that contracting these diseases has huge risks associated with them...such as shingles after contracting chicken pox. (Chicken pox is the virus causing shingles after it hides in your bones, mutates, then comes back.) Long term effects of COVID-19 are unknown yet but early estimations are some form of endocrine system disorder including birth defects of offspring, impotency, sterility, hyperthyroidism, kidney or liver failure and etc. Not exactly positives to risk for long term effects.

Also your immune system may or may not naturally find the "ultimate" antibody before your immune system is taken over or hijacked partially by the virus causing the cytokine storm which does most of the immediate damage people are aware of which includes the swelling of nervous system tissues in your cerebrum. (Cognitive function damaged evidenced by loss of taste or smell)
 

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Nope you're just saying stuff, please point me to the scientific studies that support your assertion. Here are some that support mine. And just to let you know that you're dead wrong, natural immunity has not been "debunked", are you just silly? You've bought their lie that this isn't a real thing in human beings? We don't have natural immunity? Are you saying that this hasn't been shown to be better than the vaccine? Again if you're going to say this crap then at least show me the studies you've looked at. CNN isn't a source.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.06.455491v1

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19

https://www.science.org/content/art...er-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

Notice the sites I'm posting, Science, Health, nothing political, nothing "right wing" just right. If you actually start reading this stuff you will see that the fear they have put in you is a deception and a power grab, and you've taken the bait. That sounds harsh but it's true from what I've gathered. You're actually dead wrong on this point and I bet you never show me a real study that "debunks" natural immunity. (I want to call you names so bad for saying something this dumb, but I guess this passive aggressive comment will have to do) But that's where we are. Now on a Christian site we can't even agree on a FACT of science. For the record I think the 13x's is on the absolute highest side, but please show me something other than Don Lemon that PROOVES your point. I'm waiting.
Well...
I have discovered one thing...

Your comprehension of reading materials is really low.
 

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Well...
I have discovered one thing...

Your comprehension of reading materials is really low.
That may very well be true, but compared to your democrat style empty quotes and insults like a teenage child that needs to grow up, you come with NOTHING to back up your own views. I'm like a investigative journalist in comparison to what you've brought to the table so far. Anything I bring you'll dismiss and say that's NWO, or satanic. You really come across like an empty joke in my opinion, you're standing on nothing screaming NaNa like a 2 year old. I say these harsh things as observations not insults, even though they are insulting. Not sorry for harsh truth, I have to face it at times too.

Do you know Jesus? And I'm asking because I have no idea, I'm truly asking you, do you belong to Him in spirit? Have you been born again? Let's get to the nitty gritty of all this, let's see what each of us is truly standing on. Make your case, and at this point please make a case for anything, because so far you've added nothing but empty assertion and insult. Be a man, stand on your beliefs and seriously make your case, I'm actually interested to hear it.

I would honestly rather hear you testify of how you came to know Jesus, but that's not the OP subject, so I would like to hear what you have to back up your assertions because so far you don't seem to have the courage to even put forth anything checkable about your position while mocking my effort. Go ahead, show me how it's done, "brother", enlighten me.
 

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That may very well be true, but compared to your democrat style empty quotes and insults like a teenage child that needs to grow up, you come with NOTHING to back up your own views. I'm like a investigative journalist in comparison to what you've brought to the table so far. Anything I bring you'll dismiss and say that's NWO, or satanic. You really come across like an empty joke in my opinion, you're standing on nothing screaming NaNa like a 2 year old. I say these harsh things as observations not insults, even though they are insulting. Not sorry for harsh truth, I have to face it at times too.

Do you know Jesus? And I'm asking because I have no idea, I'm truly asking you, do you belong to Him in spirit? Have you been born again? Let's get to the nitty gritty of all this, let's see what each of us is truly standing on. Make your case, and at this point please make a case for anything, because so far you've added nothing but empty assertion and insult. Be a man, stand on your beliefs and seriously make your case, I'm actually interested to hear it.

I would honestly rather hear you testify of how you came to know Jesus, but that's not the OP subject, so I would like to hear what you have to back up your assertions because so far you don't seem to have the courage to even put forth anything checkable about your position while mocking my effort. Go ahead, show me how it's done, "brother", enlighten me.
Try looking up the word "succinct" first...

"Brevity" is next.

These articles aren't saying what you think they are saying. Usually just the opposite. These articles are beyond a third grade reading comprehension level which is way beyond what the local newspaper uses. This is post graduate level reading...(beyond tertiary education level) but yet you are claiming that you understand them?
 

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Try looking up the word "succinct" first...

"Brevity" is next.

These articles aren't saying what you think they are saying. Usually just the opposite. These articles are beyond a third grade reading comprehension level which is way beyond what the local newspaper uses. This is post graduate level reading...(beyond tertiary education level) but yet you are claiming that you understand them?
well that did not shed any light on anything. Perhaps you could point out the places the articles are saying the opposite of what he is saying. What was it that you read that gave you that impression. Thanks
 

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1) The American economy drives much of the world economy... jealousy or envy is a driving factor...as well as personal enrichment from the US not recovering first from the pandemic (as we have the best medicine and medical community over and above every other nation in existence...their best hope lies in a social media campaign so that we destroy ourselves...this media campaign is directly pointed with propaganda at shaping opinion that is against your best interests. )

2) Jewish State of Israel is having a "surge" of higher percentages than before when they had no vaccinations...but the numbers are drastically lower than the first time around. Israel likes to promote their nation as being extremely desirable by the healthiest and most luxurious travel and business destination in the area...as well as Israel sells groceries and technology everywhere. Israel is known for the best groceries in the neighborhood.

3) Natural immunity is often NOT as good as vaccinated immunity. There's a huge number of diseases that this has been proven repeatedly. Not to mention that contracting these diseases has huge risks associated with them...such as shingles after contracting chicken pox. (Chicken pox is the virus causing shingles after it hides in your bones, mutates, then comes back.) Long term effects of COVID-19 are unknown yet but early estimations are some form of endocrine system disorder including birth defects of offspring, impotency, sterility, hyperthyroidism, kidney or liver failure and etc. Not exactly positives to risk for long term effects.

Also your immune system may or may not naturally find the "ultimate" antibody before your immune system is taken over or hijacked partially by the virus causing the cytokine storm which does most of the immediate damage people are aware of which includes the swelling of nervous system tissues in your cerebrum. (Cognitive function damaged evidenced by loss of taste or smell)
I did some fact checking on the Israel thing in literally every fact check site I looked at said that this is inaccurate information.