Vaccination?

[iamsoandso]

FYI
On 20 August 2021 Dr. Robert Young published his team’s findings after analysing the four dominant COVID-19 “vaccines” using Phase Contrast Microscopy, Transmission and Scanning Electron Microscopy and Energy-Dispersive X-ray Spectroscopy. Their findings both confirm and expand upon the prior investigations carried out by Dr. Pablo Campra (University of Almeria, Spain), Dr. Juan F. Gastón Añaños (Hospital de Barbastro, Spain), as well as the recent pathology reports from autopsies of vaccinated deceased which were carried out by Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt, Prof. Dr. Walter Lang and Prof. Dr. Peter Schirmacher (Germany & Austria).

https://nobulart.com/covid-19-vaccine-ingredients/

Yes thank you I didn't realize how common graphene oxide in the things we eat,drink or medicines we take until the Vaccine issue but the more I read about it it's BBQ,,,gripe water everything even false teeth,,,(lol,the list goes on and on the more you look) https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2014/ra/c4ra04022h

 

[Jocund]

There is definitely evidence of conspiracy theory nonsense in this thread...not much removed from lizard men or flat earth theories.

Examples?

 

[Magenta]

It sounds like you're saying that because injustices and corruption in the food/clothing industry are tolerated or ignored that people should accept the murder of babies that took place to create vaccines.

Aidan was saying that no fetal tissue was used in the covid vaccines, unlike other vaccines from the past that used aborted fetal tissue from decades ago. Plus, saying that using the aborted fetal tissue as reason not to get vaccinated just makes hypocrites of most Christians since they make little to no noise about the suffering and corruption in other industries.

 

[Desdichado]

Yeah, I'm feeling rather insulted.

To compare anti-vax lunacy with the very real hollow-earth men is low I tell you. Low!

Examples?

 

[TheLearner]

One sure thing is for certain, Funeral Homes know who died of what and how.
If this Advertisement is [accurate], the Funeral Business is loving the Covid-19 and the Unvaxxed!

Out of all of the Fact-Check Websites we have to choose from, this Advertisement ^, is probably more Truthful and Factual than anything else posted from the sites!

Concerning the links I summarized that the name of Funeral Home does not exist. It is likely a political group or pro vaccination group that designed and painted it on one of their trucks. As of my last post no one knew who put the truck ads together.

 

[TheLearner]

skipped to here, thread is getting too long for me to follow.

 

[Gideon300]

The thing about viruses(from what I understand from reading) is that we have some sort of immunity to the "strain we caught"(the one that was circulating at the time we caught it) but because they mutate afterwards each mutation is trying to evade the antibodies and so your back to square one. If not there would be no influenza in 2021 nor the need to get the flu shot every year(no long term immunity for mutations),,, https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/09/01/1918-flu-pandemic-end/ https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html

Some viruses do no mutate, which is why some diseases have been suppressed. Smallpox has been eliminated. Diptheria and polio have almost been eradicated. Vaccines have been the key. Mutating viruses like the flu are a problem. They can be controlled but not eliminated as yet.

 

[TMS]

Why is the vax being pushed so hard?
Why have all the people that speak against the vax been banded from the media?
Why is scaremongering being used?
Why are our freedoms being striped away?
Why is the vax the only solution to freedom?
Why is the truth being hidden?

The vax is the solution to all the problems = because very few are looking at the truth. Very few are seeing the real facts and are being deceived.

 

[Gideon300]

If China did not create this in a lab to use and a weapon we would not have this virus now either. Smallpox was not created in a lab and manipulated to make it resistant to regular med's we take for common cold and flu

Meds don't stop you getting ill in the first place. I do not understand why people are so keen to display their total ignorance of viruses and treatments. COVID-19 is called that because it is part of a family of viruses. This particular variant first appeared in 2019. It's similar to a number of other viruses. It is far more contagious than most. That's the problem. The other problem is the uninformed and ignorant speculation that deters people from doing something to stop the pandemic.

Wuhan may have released the virus. If they did, it was almost certainly accidental. You don't release a bioweapon in your own back yard. It would be easy to release it anywhere in the world. You don't walk into the bank where you have an account to rob it. "Hi Jenny, how you doin'? Stick em up!"

 

[Desdichado]

I would understand if it's something like mutated ebola with a 40%+ mortality rate, but this is a souped-up common cold.

It's simply not worth the price being exacted on (nominally) free peoples.

Why is the vax being pushed so hard?
Why have all the people that speak against the vax been banded from the media?
Why is scaremongering being used?
Why are our freedoms being striped away?
Why is the vax the only solution to freedom?
Why is the truth being hidden?

The vax is the solution to all the problems = because very few are looking at the truth. Very few are seeing the real facts and are being deceived.

 

[Gideon300]

Why is the vax being pushed so hard?
Why have all the people that speak against the vax been banded from the media?
Why is scaremongering being used?
Why are our freedoms being striped away?
Why is the vax the only solution to freedom?
Why is the truth being hidden?

The vax is the solution to all the problems = because very few are looking at the truth. Very few are seeing the real facts and are being deceived.

I have a few questions of my own.
Why are anti vaxxers so ignorant of viruses and vaccines?
Why do they imagine that the virus is harmless?
Why do they imagine that people should be allowed to lie and deceive others?
Why do they think that their "rights" are more important than the lives of others?
Why do anti vaxxers ignore reality and facts and cling to the false and fake?

 

[Gideon300]

I would understand if it's something like mutated ebola with a 40%+ mortality rate, but this is a souped-up common cold.

It's simply not worth the price being exacted on (nominally) free peoples.

675,000 American families might disagree with you. I can't understand the heartlessness of some people.

 

[PennEd]

FYI
On 20 August 2021 Dr. Robert Young published his team’s findings after analysing the four dominant COVID-19 “vaccines” using Phase Contrast Microscopy, Transmission and Scanning Electron Microscopy and Energy-Dispersive X-ray Spectroscopy. Their findings both confirm and expand upon the prior investigations carried out by Dr. Pablo Campra (University of Almeria, Spain), Dr. Juan F. Gastón Añaños (Hospital de Barbastro, Spain), as well as the recent pathology reports from autopsies of vaccinated deceased which were carried out by Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt, Prof. Dr. Walter Lang and Prof. Dr. Peter Schirmacher (Germany & Austria).

https://nobulart.com/covid-19-vaccine-ingredients/

The vax phanatics don’t care.

It doesn’t matter how much factual scientific data you throw at them , they are going to defend the lethal injection to the bitter end.

 

[Desdichado]

You presume much. I have lost a dear family member to COVID and my girlfriend was just put on a ventilator. She will probably have respiratory issues for the rest of her life. I also have a niece who hasn't seen a stranger's face for her entire life. That same girlfriend is a Lyft driver because the business she built with her own two hands was eviscerated by COVID edicts.

There are very real costs to everything. The compassionate thing is to use our brains and recognize there are no solutions, only tradeoffs.

675,000 American families might disagree with you. I can't understand the heartlessness of some people.

 

[TheLearner]

Some viruses do no mutate, which is why some diseases have been suppressed. Smallpox has been eliminated. Diptheria and polio have almost been eradicated. Vaccines have been the key. Mutating viruses like the flu are a problem. They can be controlled but not eliminated as yet.

There are more than 14 variants of the virus.
https://www.who.int/en/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants/

 

[iamsoandso]

The vax phanatics don’t care.

It doesn’t matter how much factual scientific data you throw at them , they are going to defend the lethal injection to the bitter end.

Your seeing people on the www say words like "graphene oxide"(spooky word right?) and not ever looking up what it actually is or what all it's in/on. If you do you will realize that every time in the Bible it says "slaughtered the fated calf" ,,,or better yet the portions of the sacrifices the priest made to God(other than the portions the priest ate),,,,even down to the very last meal that our Lord Jesus Christ ate(broiled fish dipped in honey comb) all contained "graphene oxide" https://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/24-42.htm

 

[surfer14]

675,000 American families might disagree with you. I can't understand the heartlessness of some people.

They pull these numbers out of think air. 600, 000 might as well be 6 million. It's just an arbitrary number they're using to try to manipulate the narrative. I'm still gonna remain pureblood. You will always be mudblood.

 

[planitsoon]

Your seeing people on the www say words like "graphene oxide"(spooky word right?) and not ever looking up what it actually is or what all it's in/on. If you do you will realize that every time in the Bible it says "slaughtered the fated calf" ,,,or better yet the portions of the sacrifices the priest made to God(other than the portions the priest ate),,,,even down to the very last meal that our Lord Jesus Christ ate(broiled fish dipped in honey comb) all contained "graphene oxide" https://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/24-42.htm

"Even though graphene oxide is made with the same atoms as our organs, tissues and cells, its bi-dimensional nature causes unique interactions with blood proteins and biological membranes and can lead to severe effects like thrombogenicity and immune cell activation." See https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32254085/

I don't like much of the nano technology out there though I use myself one called nano soma that restores DNA to what it should be and removes what shouidn't be there. My wife four months ago didn't think I would make it but three days after starting to use it my health came back up. I had severe allergy levels affecting lungs and bowels and the drug dealer told me that 100 was considered high for allergies and that I had 600 lol. The inventor hasn't aged in ten years now. Interesting tech.

 

[Aidan1]

It sounds like you're saying that because injustices and corruption in the food/clothing industry are tolerated or ignored that people should accept the murder of babies that took place to create vaccines.

As Christians we need to prevent the spread of moral and spiritual decay. It's our duty to do the right things as much as possible, though it isn't always easy. This is why we are supposed to be the salt of the earth.

It's better to not make allowances for more evil just because allowances are already in place for other evils. You should be sure to point out the moral dilemma vaccines present since you're aware of it now.

You misinterpretet what i said. The Babys were not murdered for to create the vaccine!! This is not true!!
The vaccine against covid was produced in 2020? The 2 fetals were murdered in 1960er /1980er years.
Why you began now to judge the vaccine, but not those vaccines which were produced decades before against chickenpox, rabies, polio, Hepatitis A, measles?

 

[Runningman]

Aidan was saying that no fetal tissue was used in the covid vaccines, unlike other vaccines from the past that used aborted fetal tissue from decades ago. Plus, saying that using the aborted fetal tissue as reason not to get vaccinated just makes hypocrites of most Christians since they make little to no noise about the suffering and corruption in other industries.

So they learned how to produce vaccines without using fetal tissue because of the decades of knowledge gleaned from using fetal tissue? Yes.

We're not even talking about the food and clothing industry. You brought up other issues of corruption in the middle of a discussion about the sinful nature of vaccines.

That's called whataboutism. It's a logical fallacy which attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving the argument.

If you want to talk about corruption in the food and clothing industry then open those threads and I'll be sure to come in and condemn those things too.

However, randomly charging Christians as hypocrites using broad spectrum blanket accusations actually just undermines one's credibility. Ad hominems never enhance one's position on a topic, especially when ulterior motives are exposed.