Why humans survived the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs?

[TimothyGodIsLove]

Well, with what we know about dinosaurs, especially the meat eaters, mankind could not exist along side them. Not only that, they would not be included with reference to the common animals. And if they were animals, why are they not mentioned when God had them male and female for the ark? I would submit the following translations as well:

King James Bible
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

American Standard Version
And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

English Revised Version
And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

JPS Tanakh 1917
And God blessed them; and God said unto them: 'Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that creepeth upon the earth.'

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I've noticed that there are several translations which say "replenish" the earth, which means to 'fill something up again, to renew.' Now I am not proclaiming that this is the case, but am just putting it out there. If the word replenish is correct, then it would mean that something was on the earth prior to our creation. If you're replenishing something, it means that it was previously plenished/filled. That being the case, then what if the dinosaurs were on the earth at an earlier time, before this current creation. Again, I am just speculating, putting this out there. Obviously mankind could not co-exist with dinosaurs anymore that he could co-exist with the offspring of the angels who took wives, who were 300 cubits tall and who Enoch says began to devour men and which is the main reason why God brought the flood.

Nothing set in stone, but Just food for thought

SO man did not co exist with meat eating bears or lions or snakes or leopards?Humanity co-existed with dinosaurs the tiny foot print on the left is that of a human and to the right the foot print of a dinosaur. Proved beyond reasonable doubt

 

[Ahwatukee]

SO man did not co exist with meat eating bears or lions or snakes or leopards?

Now you are putting words into my mouth. Those listed above are common animals. I would put Dinosaurs in a different category then bears, lions and leopards, etc.. And remember, I am just throwing information out there to be considered. Nothing is set in stone.

Humanity co-existed with dinosaurs the tiny foot print on the left is that of a human and to the right the foot print of a dinosaur. Proved beyond reasonable doubt

Were those two footprints made at the same time or are they millions of years apart?

That fact is that, dinosaurs are not mentioned in scripture. The closest thing that we have is the mention of Leviathan, which would be in the singular, in opposition to many different types of dinosaurs.

When I took a motorcycle ride out to Dinosaur National Monument in northern Colorado, where the existence of Dinosaurs became real, since they put up a building as an enclosure to the dinosaurs where their bodies ended up, some in pieces and others in full complete bodies. Just amazing!

As I previously stated, if the word "Replenish" is correct, then it would mean that something else could have been on the earth at a previous time prior to our creation. As stated, we don't know how long the earth was here before our creation and could have been used by God prior to this. We just don't have enough information on this. But we should keep an open mind.

 

[Magenta]

Greetings
The bible is very literal about the creation days. The words "There was morning" and "There was evening" meant the time cycle was rotating like today, morning comes and evening passes and we call it a day. So in a single day like today, God created all the land animals and human beings, That is the sixth day. God is powerful enough to do that.
For the pre existence of the earth, let us reason like this...
Imagine the planets Jupiter, for how long they have been around, we do not know, but one thing for sure is that there is no sign of life on any of them, now if God wills any of them to have life, it can happen because he is all powerful, unfortunately that is not in his todo list. The same can be said of the earth. It was here already in the beginning, the light that was created on the first day is what gave time meaning. The object used to measure time before the creation of the sun we surely do not know

You cannot claim to know what is on God's "todo list." There is absolutely nothing in Scripture to suggest that Earth pre-existed creation! To even "go there" seems preposterous. It is very strange indeed that people cannot properly understand the very first sentence of the Bible (In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.). How anyone gets from that, that Earth already existed, as if God just stumbled upon it and decided to do something with it, is perplexing.

 

[TimothyGodIsLove]

Now you are putting words into my mouth. Those listed above are common animals. I would put Dinosaurs in a different category then bears, lions and leopards, etc.. And remember, I am just throwing information out there to be considered. Nothing is set in stone.



Were those two footprints made at the same time or are they millions of years apart?

That fact is that, dinosaurs are not mentioned in scripture. The closest thing that we have is the mention of Leviathan, which would be in the singular, in opposition to many different types of dinosaurs.

When I took a motorcycle ride out to Dinosaur National Monument in northern Colorado, where the existence of Dinosaurs became real, since they put up a building as an enclosure to the dinosaurs where their bodies ended up, some in pieces and others in full complete bodies. Just amazing!

As I previously stated, if the word "Replenish" is correct, then it would mean that something else could have been on the earth at a previous time prior to our creation. As stated, we don't know how long the earth was here before our creation and could have been used by God prior to this. We just don't have enough information on this. But we should keep an open mind.

What about the sixth day when every animal of every kind was made? You cannot argue with the Bible on this. All animals came into existence on the sixth day, prior to that there is no evidence of life because the origin of that life never made anything and if He did make anything, its mentioned in the Creation Week Days. I trust the spirirt that inspired Moses to write this down.

 

[TimothyGodIsLove]

You cannot claim to know what is on God's "todo list." There is absolutely nothing in Scripture to suggest that Earth pre-existed creation! To even "go there" seems preposterous. It is very strange indeed that people cannot properly understand the very first sentence of the Bible (In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.). How anyone gets from that, that Earth already existed, as if God just stumbled upon it and decided to do something with it, is perplexing.

 

[TimothyGodIsLove]

You cannot claim to know what is on God's "todo list." There is absolutely nothing in Scripture to suggest that Earth pre-existed creation! To even "go there" seems preposterous. It is very strange indeed that people cannot properly understand the very first sentence of the Bible (In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.). How anyone gets from that, that Earth already existed, as if God just stumbled upon it and decided to do something with it, is perplexing.

But its sure not creating or placing life on Jupiter or any of those planets. Those are destined for destruction at the end of the age. Its in scripture that a new heaven will come into existence, which means the old will be gone(the curret solar system).Creation of the light is what created the concept of days in the creation timeline. Before the creation of the object that gives the universe a sense of time which is light, there was a time concept framed in the words "In the beginning". You should also note that there is a contradiction on which light God created on the first day, was it the sun? If its the sun that was created on the first day, which sun was creted on the fourth day? when the stars, the sun and the moon were made?

 

[shittim]

just for fun-

 

[Moses_Young]

Now you are putting words into my mouth. Those listed above are common animals. I would put Dinosaurs in a different category then bears, lions and leopards, etc.. And remember, I am just throwing information out there to be considered. Nothing is set in stone.

The bible indicates God categorised animals differently to you. He made the animals that creep along the ground on Day 6. Dinosaurs, if they existed, were created day 6. Genesis 1:25 " And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good."

Unless you are going to argue that the dinosaurs could fly, in which case they were made on Day 5.

Were those two footprints made at the same time or are they millions of years apart?

The Earth isn't millions of years old. That's crazy talk.

That fact is that, dinosaurs are not mentioned in scripture. The closest thing that we have is the mention of Leviathan, which would be in the singular, in opposition to many different types of dinosaurs.

This is a bit silly, also. The word "dinosaur" wasn't invented until about 200 years ago. So obviously, the word isn't used in scripture, anymore than the word "trinity" or the word "rapture" is used in scripture. This doesn't mean these concepts are not described.

When I took a motorcycle ride out to Dinosaur National Monument in northern Colorado, where the existence of Dinosaurs became real, since they put up a building as an enclosure to the dinosaurs where their bodies ended up, some in pieces and others in full complete bodies. Just amazing!

As I previously stated, if the word "Replenish" is correct, then it would mean that something else could have been on the earth at a previous time prior to our creation. As stated, we don't know how long the earth was here before our creation and could have been used by God prior to this. We just don't have enough information on this. But we should keep an open mind.

There is no biblical justification to believe the word "replenish" means to repopulate a depopulated Earth.

 

[TimothyGodIsLove]

The bible indicates God categorised animals differently to you. He made the animals that creep along the ground on Day 6. Dinosaurs, if they existed, were created day 6. Genesis 1:25 " And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good."

Unless you are going to argue that the dinosaurs could fly, in which case they were made on Day 5.

The Earth isn't millions of years old. That's crazy talk.

This is a bit silly, also. The word "dinosaur" wasn't invented until about 200 years ago. So obviously, the word isn't used in scripture, anymore than the word "trinity" or the word "rapture" is used in scripture. This doesn't mean these concepts are not described.

There is no biblical justification to believe the word "replenish" means to repopulate a depopulated Earth.

Well answered, I got nothing to add

 

[Genipher]

SO man did not co exist with meat eating bears or lions or snakes or leopards?

Now you are putting words into my mouth. Those listed above are common animals. I would put Dinosaurs in a different category then bears, lions and leopards, etc.. And remember, I am just throwing information out there to be considered. Nothing is set in stone.

Interesting that you left out "snakes" from Timothy's list.

A snake is a reptile.
So are dinosaurs or, as they were originally called, dragons. Which ARE spoken of in the OT of the Bible. tanniym (dragon) aka land or sea monster

Not to mention Eve was deceived by a serpent so reptiles HAD to have existed at the same time as man...

 

[Genipher]

Lol. I thought the dinosaurs went extinct 'cause Noah and his sons ate them all!

I've heard it speculated before that Nimrod, the mighty hunter, killed off most of the dragons. Er, dinosaurs.

 

[Moses_Young]

I've heard it speculated before that Nimrod, the mighty hunter, killed off most of the dragons. Er, dinosaurs.

I don't know if he tried, but I think Nimrod was a bad dude. That's why we use his name as an insult these days!

And poor old Saint George had to finish off the job. Below is an illustration of St George and the dinosaur... I mean dragon! :-D

 

[Katia]

I was reading an article online where some scientists allegedly suggest that there was an asteroid that hit the Yucatan Mexican peninsula whose nuclear like effects wiped out the dinosaurs and 70 percent of the species. My question is, if this is true whats so special about humanity that we survived and those extinct species didnt?

Why do scientists like to contrarict themselves, if that asteroid was nuclear like and more powerful than today's nuclear bombs, what makes them so sure that a world war three fought with nuclear weapons would end us if we survived that asteroid?

The simplest answer is that Dinosaurs lived 62 million years ago, about the time that the Yucatan event happened. We don't know for sure then Man was created. The most available data shows he was in existence in 3000 BC. Upright walking pre-humans started appearing up to 170,000 years ago. There is lots of arguing in scholarly circles about those figures. Creationists treat the OT like a factual document and that lacks credibility.

 

[Moses_Young]

The simplest answer is that Dinosaurs lived 62 million years ago, about the time that the Yucatan event happened.

Why is that simple? Because it can neither be proven or disproven? Aren't theories without substantial evidence more like religions?

We don't know for sure then Man was created. The most available data shows he was in existence in 3000 BC.

Correct. As per the historical record, a.k.a. the bible, or Genesis through to Chronicles.

Upright walking pre-humans started appearing up to 170,000 years ago.

This relies upon dating methods with demonstrably shaky assumptions. The simplest answer is actually to believe the historical account.

There is lots of arguing in scholarly circles about those figures.

Only 'cause there's money in it (undermining the biblical narrative). Take away the funding, and the argument would resolve promptly.

Creationists treat the OT like a factual document and that lacks credibility.

Why does treating a historical account like it is a historical account lack credibility?

 

[Katia]

Why is that simple? Because it can neither be proven or disproven? Aren't theories without substantial evidence more like religions?

Correct. As per the historical record, a.k.a. the bible, or Genesis through to Chronicles.

This relies upon dating methods with demonstrably shaky assumptions. The simplest answer is actually to believe the historical account.

Only 'cause there's money in it (undermining the biblical narrative). Take away the funding, and the argument would resolve promptly.

Why does treating a historical account like it is a historical account lack credibility?

OK. I'm not going to argue with you. I was a Creationist, but ....

 

[Ahwatukee]

Interesting that you left out "snakes" from Timothy's list.

A snake is a reptile.
So are dinosaurs or, as they were originally called, dragons. Which ARE spoken of in the OT of the Bible. tanniym (dragon) aka land or sea monster

Not to mention Eve was deceived by a serpent so reptiles HAD to have existed at the same time as man...

Hello Genipher!

I did not leave snakes out on purpose, but was just listing the general information, that there is a difference between common animals vs. Dinosaurs. And again, I am not setting anything in stone. I'm just putting the information out there for consideration.

I don't know what happened back then. But I do know that the physical earth was not a part of the six days of creation, but was already existing. The six days of creation took place upon the earth and outside of it in the cosmos, i.e. sun, moon and stars, etc.

I was just speculating that at an earlier time prior to our creation, is when God created the dinosaurs, at a time when mankind was not yet created. We just don't know how old the earth is. However, according to God's word, the earth was here first.

 

[Katia]

Hello Genipher!

I did not leave snakes out on purpose, but was just listing the general information, that there is a difference between common animals vs. Dinosaurs. And again, I am not setting anything in stone. I'm just putting the information out there for consideration.

I don't know what happened back then. But I do know that the physical earth was not a part of the six days of creation, but was already existing. The six days of creation took place upon the earth and outside of it in the cosmos, i.e. sun, moon and stars, etc.

I was just speculating that at an earlier time prior to our creation, is when God created the dinosaurs, at a time when mankind was not yet created. We just don't know how old the earth is. However, according to God's word, the earth was here first.

Just looking at Wiki, they feel that mitochondrial Eve lived between 1 and 2 hundred thousand years ago. I don't feel that this conflicts with the Bible. In my opinion the earliest part of the OT were stories that were told around the camp fires. According to Jewish Scholars, the oldest part of the OT was recorded about 1200 BC.

 

[TimothyGodIsLove]

Science wil never beat the Bible. I Trust the Holy Ghost more than i do trust mortal scientists. if someone can try to coerce the Word of God to fit scientific views then we really need to rethink our commitment to defend the Bible from all lies.
These things were predicted in the book of Daniel, "Many shall move to and fro and knowledge will increase"...
How many times have scientists lied to you and you still continue to believe them.
They said "A huge asteroid could hit the earth and end all civilization in 2012", did it happen?
They say "Its going to rain" and then it fails to rain.
If scientists can lie about the future then
they can lie about the past. And that past is that dinosaurs existed prior to creation. A christian takes input from the world(scientists), processes it according to whats written in the word of God, if the word of God returns false then indeed it is false.
The word of God says dinosaurs are a kind of animal created on the 6th day. To even try to suggest that dinosaurs pre existed creation is not correct because of these questions:
1. What were they eating because every other animal came into existence on the 6th day?
2. Why did God create just dinosaurs and place them on earth before he even created the light(sun) where did the dinosaurs get light to see with?There was also no moon.

The same science says light is crucial for all living organisms, NO LIVING ORGANISM EXISTED PRIOR TO THE CREATION OF THE SUN.

God is an orderly God, he knew every form of life will need the sun, that is why he started with the creation of the Sun(support for all life forms). The dinosaurs needed to feed on other herbivores that feed on vegetation. i would really like to see a one organism ecology....The scientists will tell that's not possible

I know fundamentalism is not healthy for a christian but when it comes to general known issues then the word of God is crystal clear. Be blessed

 

[PennEd]

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters."

I believe this is strictly an overview or synopsis of the more specific details of creation to come.

There is nothing to suggest a “gap” of indeterminate time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, which is part of day one of creation.

 

[TimothyGodIsLove]

I believe this is strictly an overview or synopsis of the more specific details of creation to come.

There is nothing to suggest a “gap” of indeterminate time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, which is part of day one of creation.

Very correct,, absolutely nothing to suggest a huge time gap. Humans have always been center of God's attention, suggesting that some animals without intellectual God gave man roaming alone in darkness for 24 hours is not correct.