What do you think of this speaker and his points?

[PennEd]

675,000 COVID deaths USA.

Even IF we count all the deaths as those dying FROM Covid, and not merely WITH Covid, this number you site is a perfect example of manipulating the ignorant masses with twisted statistics that are NEVER used to chronicle ANY other death.

We don't count the year BEFORE cause of death for Cancers, Heart attacks, accidents, suicides, murders, struck by lightening, etc..

ONLY for propaganda and political purposes do we have a continuous running death toll for COVID from the PREVIOUS year.

There were about 350,000 deaths listed as Covid in 2020, although as stated earlier, most of them were deaths WITH Covid, and not FROM Covid. There has been about 325,000 in 2021.

So why are YOU aiding and abetting in the propaganda? Unless you were just ignorant on that fact.

 

[LuvofChrist]

Well the first thing I do is I stop taking data from people who have shown themselves to be liars. That is causing me to go to other countries like this person in Tobago and Trinidad and to Israel, countries that are far more transparent and comprehensive in their data. Second, the process takes months for new variants to emerge, and once they do it takes months for the spike in deaths to hit like the last wave of the pandemic. Still if what we are seeing in Israel and other countries is any indication of what we are going to see we will see this wave hit the US by November. By January it should be undeniable. I expect over the next four months more and more alarms will come from all over the world as every other country sees the same thing.

I agree with you 100%. I have known "Christians" or so-called, taking the jab for the shake of their families, or because of the fears of unsaved believers, or to keep their job's, or so they can travel, eat in restaurants, fly to see family......I see so many do so because they desire to have "pleasures" than obeying the Lord.
How can any true disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ NOT understand, that we as followers are not to listen too, nor obey those that are liars, murderer's, thieves, adulterer's, Lovers of money over truth, Greedy self-indulgent followers of lust, bearing false witness against citizen's who will not comply or listen to their murderous lies and deceptions, and FRAUD! Unless you are a babe in Christ, still drinking the milk of the word, no true Christian can do so, because the Love of the Truth as found in Christ Jesus and His Apostles in His Word is the only truth we are to follow and obey for our Good, and for His Glory!


Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth
Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Eph 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Eph 5:15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
Eph 5:16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
Eph 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.


The Lord bless you for standing up for the truth.
In His Love.....

 

[ZNP]

 

[LuvofChrist]

Even IF we count all the deaths as those dying FROM Covid, and not merely WITH Covid, this number you site is a perfect example of manipulating the ignorant masses with twisted statistics that are NEVER used to chronicle ANY other death.

We don't count the year BEFORE cause of death for Cancers, Heart attacks, accidents, suicides, murders, struck by lightening, etc..

ONLY for propaganda and political purposes do we have a continuous running death toll for COVID from the PREVIOUS year.

There were about 350,000 deaths listed as Covid in 2020, although as stated earlier, most of them were deaths WITH Covid, and not FROM Covid. There has been about 325,000 in 2021.

So why are YOU aiding and abetting in the propaganda? Unless you were just ignorant on that fact.

True believer's will not comply to the lies you are putting forth.
You follow after liars, murderers, and thieves.........we who walk in the Light will NOT accept willful deception and will not bow down to the fear of man and his murderous agenda.
Me thinks you watch too much fake, murderous Main stream media, and the satanic health services.
May the Lord grant you the Grace to see the truth.

 

[LuvofChrist]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...eath-rate-within-5-years-risk-higher-dying-v/

Yes, the data is starting to come out on myocarditis. Apparently this will greatly reduce your estimated life span for anyone who is young and healthy, so interesting that they are now approving the vaccine for kids.

We as believer's need to call it out for what it is, because it is in the TRUTH, that we will be protected from this murderous agenda put out by wicked men, by not taking this "death jab". It's all satanic medical sorcery.

 

[LuvofChrist]

I agree with you 100%. I have known "Christians" or so-called, taking the jab for the shake of their families, or because of the fears of unsaved believers, or to keep their job's, or so they can travel, eat in restaurants, fly to see family......I see so many do so because they desire to have "pleasures" than obeying the Lord.
How can any true disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ NOT understand, that we as followers are not to listen too, nor obey those that are liars, murderer's, thieves, adulterer's, Lovers of money over truth, Greedy self-indulgent followers of lust, bearing false witness against citizen's who will not comply or listen to their murderous lies and deceptions, and FRAUD! Unless you are a babe in Christ, still drinking the milk of the word, no true Christian can do so, because the Love of the Truth as found in Christ Jesus and His Apostles in His Word is the only truth we are to follow and obey for our Good, and for His Glory!


Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth
Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Eph 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Eph 5:15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
Eph 5:16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
Eph 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.


The Lord bless you for standing up for the truth.
In His Love.....

@PennEd

Since you are a believer, would you be so kind as to give me the reasons why you have "Downthumbed" this posting with specific reasons backed by Scripture and other links or info. It is after all the only way the Lord desires His children to act towards one another. In the Spirit of Love and Truth.
Thank you, Lord bless you.

 

[dave_in_KWC]

Bioweapons lab is what Revelation refers to as sorcery

SARS is weaponized with HIV, already heard this on Bannon's War Room pandemic.

Genetically engineered for efficient spreading in human population -- yes this is why they chose a coronavirus (common cold).

It is a retro virus injects itself into the mRNA and can change your DNA -- most dangerous virus

Fauci's emails -- prove he is a liar.

It is a combination. Covid is not that dangerous if you treat it correctly, but once you take the vaccine then it becomes much more dangerous. The mass vaccination causes the virus to mutate to another variant that you are not protected against and once that happens your immune system is weaker not stronger because you are producing antigen specific antibodies which are useless.

There is also recombination, a vaccinated host can be infected by more than one variant and they can combine and form a new variant.

"Bioweapons lab is what Revelation refers to as sorcery"

Sorcery is translated from the Greek word pharmakeia that is used in Galatians 5:19.
However, if you were told that this word means “the use of or the
administrating of drugs” then you were misinformed. The word is a fairly
general one. My Greek dictionary defines it as: “witchcraft, magic, the
use of spells and potions of magic, often involving drugs–a magic
spell. It is a fact that witchcraft and magic in the Greek world often
involved the use of drugs–either by the witch or the one on whom the
magic is worked. I have heard the same thing taught that you quote. It
is not absolutely false, but it is not good use of the Greek. Probably,
whoever gave you this bogus definition also told you that we get the word
pharmacy from this Greek root word. That, of course, is true, but this
does not mean that the meaning of the word has not changed! Put it this
way, if one were to use and administer drugs for the sole purpose of
creating a mind-altered state, then one could probably be judged to have
violated the commandment not to be involved in pharmakiea. Probably
whoever told you this got the definition second hand and did not bother to
look up the Greek. I see this as an attempt to make the scripture in
Galatians 5:19 practical for a modern, particularly an American crowd.
This is a good thing to do, but in making the scripture practical,
we should always begin with good exegesis. If you lived in parts of
Africa, the definition given above would apply in all its meanings. I
have visited churches in third world countries where the sin of magic
spells and relying on witch doctors is very much prevelant; even among
Christians.

 

[ZNP]

"Bioweapons lab is what Revelation refers to as sorcery"

Sorcery is translated from the Greek word pharmakeia that is used in Galatians 5:19.
However, if you were told that this word means “the use of or the
administrating of drugs” then you were misinformed. The word is a fairly
general one. My Greek dictionary defines it as: “witchcraft, magic, the
use of spells and potions of magic, often involving drugs–a magic
spell. It is a fact that witchcraft and magic in the Greek world often
involved the use of drugs–either by the witch or the one on whom the
magic is worked. I have heard the same thing taught that you quote. It
is not absolutely false, but it is not good use of the Greek. Probably,
whoever gave you this bogus definition also told you that we get the word
pharmacy from this Greek root word. That, of course, is true, but this
does not mean that the meaning of the word has not changed! Put it this
way, if one were to use and administer drugs for the sole purpose of
creating a mind-altered state, then one could probably be judged to have
violated the commandment not to be involved in pharmakiea. Probably
whoever told you this got the definition second hand and did not bother to
look up the Greek. I see this as an attempt to make the scripture in
Galatians 5:19 practical for a modern, particularly an American crowd.
This is a good thing to do, but in making the scripture practical,
we should always begin with good exegesis. If you lived in parts of
Africa, the definition given above would apply in all its meanings. I
have visited churches in third world countries where the sin of magic
spells and relying on witch doctors is very much prevelant; even among
Christians.

We are told that they would be doing lying wonders to convince, if possible, even the elect. One of those lying wonders would be the resurrection which will be imitated with the resuscitation of the AntiChrist.

The next biggest lying wonder will be "the blood of Christ" which heals us. Certainly sounds like the lying wonder of bioengineering some magic cure.

Everyone compares what they are doing with bioengineering chimeras with what we commonly think of as medicine. The bronze serpent on the cross is how we used to make vaccines by taking the virus and crucifying it so that your immune system could get a look at it without it being able to hurt you. That is not what an mRNA "vaccine" does. In fact why do we even call it a vaccine? It does not give you immunity, it does not prevent you from getting sick and it does not prevent you from transmitting it to others. Talk about the meaning of a word changing, the definition of "vaccine" has changed from "bronze serpent lifted up for all to see" to "lying wonder made in Frankenstein's lab".

 

[PennEd]

True believer's will not comply to the lies you are putting forth.
You follow after liars, murderers, and thieves.........we who walk in the Light will NOT accept willful deception and will not bow down to the fear of man and his murderous agenda.
Me thinks you watch too much fake, murderous Main stream media, and the satanic health services.
May the Lord grant you the Grace to see the truth.

Methinks you are not the sharpest tool in the shed.

If you read my posts, and even the one you cited, you will see I am of the exact same mind as you in regards to the vaccine and virus.

You seem to be so fired up to lash out at people you can’t even see when someone agrees with you.

 

[ZNP]

Methinks you are not the sharpest tool in the shed.

If you read my posts, and even the one you cited, you will see I am of the exact same mind as you in regards to the vaccine and virus.

You seem to be so fired up to lash out at people you can’t even see when someone agrees with you.

Yes, I didn't read his whole post once I got the gist of it, but then was surprised that he was agreeing with me and railing against you?! What??

 

[LuvofChrist]

"Bioweapons lab is what Revelation refers to as sorcery"

Sorcery is translated from the Greek word pharmakeia that is used in Galatians 5:19.
However, if you were told that this word means “the use of or the
administrating of drugs” then you were misinformed. The word is a fairly
general one. My Greek dictionary defines it as: “witchcraft, magic, the
use of spells and potions of magic, often involving drugs–a magic
spell. It is a fact that witchcraft and magic in the Greek world often
involved the use of drugs–either by the witch or the one on whom the
magic is worked. I have heard the same thing taught that you quote. It
is not absolutely false, but it is not good use of the Greek. Probably,
whoever gave you this bogus definition also told you that we get the word
pharmacy from this Greek root word. That, of course, is true, but this
does not mean that the meaning of the word has not changed! Put it this
way, if one were to use and administer drugs for the sole purpose of
creating a mind-altered state, then one could probably be judged to have
violated the commandment not to be involved in pharmakiea. Probably
whoever told you this got the definition second hand and did not bother to
look up the Greek. I see this as an attempt to make the scripture in
Galatians 5:19 practical for a modern, particularly an American crowd.
This is a good thing to do, but in making the scripture practical,
we should always begin with good exegesis. If you lived in parts of
Africa, the definition given above would apply in all its meanings. I
have visited churches in third world countries where the sin of magic
spells and relying on witch doctors is very much prevelant; even among
Christians.

I did read the greek meaning, and I posted it as it appeared in the Strong's.
Here is a large 41 paged document put out by a pastor, which I read.
And it is true.
And I stand upon Lord according to His Word through the Holy Spirit that this is true and correct.
"Making the scripture practical, we should always use good exegesis" Cultural influences have no merit when it concerns
what the Lord's has to say for the protection of His Children, exegesis or not.
Here is the Link I told you about above. I think you may agree that he did a pretty good job doing the research and laying
out to the naked eye of believers, that the medical institutions have been influenced by the devil for centuries.
And I have not seen a doctor nor have had any shots since the 70's nor any medication, and will not do so, because of my experiences, I've learned you can not trust any of the medical field as it stands within the Corporate World.

http://ernestlmartin.com/images/Pharmacy, Drugs, Sorcery, IG Farbin.pdf

The Lord bless you....thanks for the discussion.

 

[ZNP]

I did read the greek meaning, and I posted it as it appeared in the Strong's.
Here is a large 41 paged document put out by a pastor, which I read.
And it is true.
And I stand upon Lord according to His Word through the Holy Spirit that this is true and correct.
"Making the scripture practical, we should always use good exegesis" Cultural influences have no merit when it concerns
what the Lord's has to say for the protection of His Children, exegesis or not.
Here is the Link I told you about above. I think you may agree that he did a pretty good job doing the research and laying
out to the naked eye of believers, that the medical institutions have been influenced by the devil for centuries.
And I have not seen a doctor nor have had any shots since the 70's nor any medication, and will not do so, because of my experiences, I've learned you can not trust any of the medical field as it stands within the Corporate World.

http://ernestlmartin.com/images/Pharmacy, Drugs, Sorcery, IG Farbin.pdf

The Lord bless you....thanks for the discussion.

Do you find it rather disturbing that approximately 60% of the population is taking at least one pharmaceutical drug every day? Some are taking up to fifteen and twenty!

Let me share my experience. I had an ulcer, the doctor prescribed some drugs, I asked how long will I be on this, he said "forever". So I said forget that. I remembered something Gandhi had said and on the weekend I fasted and when the acid built up I drank water to wash it out of my stomach. Two weeks later the ulcer was healed.

Second example, my feet were killing me and I realized if this gets much worse I'll have to give up my job. Asked a doctor and they told me I had arthritis and would need to take all kinds of meds and wouldn't be able to cure it. However, I saw an article about stretching out the tendons in the foot. I began riding my bicycle to work every day and that stretched out the foot before the day began. I was cured. No more problem with my feet.

So in full context this passage is saying: "For by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon earth."

If you want to argue about what this "sorcery" means today it has to include "all the nations being deceived especially concerning people dying. We aren't talking about some Native American ritual with cow dung, we are talking about killing hundreds of millions of people with something cooked up in a bioweapons lab or a supposed cure to something cooked up in a bioweapons lab.

 

[PennEd]

I did read the greek meaning, and I posted it as it appeared in the Strong's.
Here is a large 41 paged document put out by a pastor, which I read.
And it is true.
And I stand upon Lord according to His Word through the Holy Spirit that this is true and correct.
"Making the scripture practical, we should always use good exegesis" Cultural influences have no merit when it concerns
what the Lord's has to say for the protection of His Children, exegesis or not.
Here is the Link I told you about above. I think you may agree that he did a pretty good job doing the research and laying
out to the naked eye of believers, that the medical institutions have been influenced by the devil for centuries.
And I have not seen a doctor nor have had any shots since the 70's nor any medication, and will not do so, because of my experiences, I've learned you can not trust any of the medical field as it stands within the Corporate World.

http://ernestlmartin.com/images/Pharmacy, Drugs, Sorcery, IG Farbin.pdf

The Lord bless you....thanks for the discussion.

I guess I shouldn’t be expecting any apologies for the attacks and slander you have leveled at me then.

 

[LuvofChrist]

Methinks you are not the sharpest tool in the shed.

If you read my posts, and even the one you cited, you will see I am of the exact same mind as you in regards to the vaccine and virus.

You seem to be so fired up to lash out at people you can’t even see when someone agrees with you.

First I desire to say, that I after reading other posts that you have posted, I see we are on the same side of the coin, re: vaccinations.
So I do agree on this point. My second point is I usually do not respond to someone, who says they are Christians, when they immediately start their statement with a personal attack upon the person, such as; "Methinks you are not the sharpest tool in the shed."
This is NOT the spirit in which our Lord desires to treat one another. And I do think you are mature enough to know this. So when so-called Christians start off in this manner I have learned not to respond to such. However I am responding because I do desire to make right where and if I had erred in my understanding.

My not "so fired up to lash out" was due to the number's you were quoting on Covid deaths, which we know were tampered with and can not be trusted that they are true and accurate. Because hospital's were paid to "pump up" the numbers so they would get more money from the Fed. The test's given to see "if" one had covid, (which truly does not exist, ever) were fraudulent, because the test's tools they used to determine covid or not, were not invented for that purpose. So anyone who showed "positive" were truly not positive, due to a faulty test mandate. So the number's you were quoting I was reacting too. Most persons that died in 2020 the elderly, were actually murdered, while they did not have covid, because Covid-19 never did exist and still does not till this day.
It is now being reported by many honest medical professionals, doctor's, nurses etc., that those dying from some type of "covid" are the vaccinated, and NOT the unvaccinated.
However I did ask you to reveal your sources through links to see where you got your info from, and so far I've not seen any. So how am I able to see where I may have erred?

Waiting for the links, other wise this conversation is over. Thank you.

 

[LuvofChrist]

I guess I shouldn’t be expecting any apologies for the attacks and slander you have leveled at me then.

Point them out, and I shall, if it be true.

 

[PennEd]

Me thinks you watch too much fake, murderous Main stream media, and the satanic health services.
May the Lord grant you the Grace to see the truth.

Somehow you don’t see a hypocrisy here?

I usually do not respond to someone, who says they are Christians, when they immediately start their statement with a personal attack upon the person, such as; "Methinks you are not the sharpest tool in the shed."

Hmm….

Waiting for the links, other wise this conversation is over. Thank you.

I’ve been preaching against the vaccine,and the plandemic, since March 2020. You’ve been here 5 minutes, and already acting like a bully,accusing people left and right, and entire denominations. (Somehow I’m doubting you’ll see your posts that way).
I’ve probably posted over a thousand links and sources in that time. Knock yourself out in looking at them.

Point them out, and I shall, if it be true.

Pride my friend pride. Can you muster a simple “ I’m sorry “?

You thumbed down several posts, accused me of supporting something I didn’t, and even said I followed the devils system.

Not sure what else worse you could have said to elicit an apology.

 

[LuvofChrist]

Do you find it rather disturbing that approximately 60% of the population is taking at least one pharmaceutical drug every day? Some are taking up to fifteen and twenty!

Let me share my experience. I had an ulcer, the doctor prescribed some drugs, I asked how long will I be on this, he said "forever". So I said forget that. I remembered something Gandhi had said and on the weekend I fasted and when the acid built up I drank water to wash it out of my stomach. Two weeks later the ulcer was healed.

Second example, my feet were killing me and I realized if this gets much worse I'll have to give up my job. Asked a doctor and they told me I had arthritis and would need to take all kinds of meds and wouldn't be able to cure it. However, I saw an article about stretching out the tendons in the foot. I began riding my bicycle to work every day and that stretched out the foot before the day began. I was cured. No more problem with my feet.

So in full context this passage is saying: "For by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon earth."

If you want to argue about what this "sorcery" means today it has to include "all the nations being deceived especially concerning people dying. We aren't talking about some Native American ritual with cow dung, we are talking about killing hundreds of millions of people with something cooked up in a bioweapons lab or a supposed cure to something cooked up in a bioweapons lab.

I'm sorry, I am not sure what you are trying to relay to me. I do stand against the Pharmaceutical Corporate mindset. I look to all things natural to deal with any minor problems I have. I do not take any medications whatsoever, and stopped trusting doctor's and the medical profession since the mid 80's.
The Lord is my healer, if and when He thinks I need it, however I do not have any problems, except for teeth issues.
I am against all the corporate medical practices around the world so, I am not truly understanding your upset at me. MY qutoe was to another party

Somehow you don’t see a hypocrisy here?

Hmm….


I’ve been preaching against the vaccine,and the plandemic, since March 2020. You’ve been here 5 minutes, and already acting like a bully,accusing people left and right, and entire denominations. (Somehow I’m doubting you’ll see your posts that way).
I’ve probably posted over a thousand links and sources in that time. Knock yourself out in looking at them.


Pride my friend pride. Can you muster a simple “ I’m sorry “?

You thumbed down several posts, accused me of supporting something I didn’t, and even said I followed the devils system.

Not sure what else worse you could have said to elicit an apology.

Have you not seen my request for your links to see where you got your "quotes" from?
When I see them, and I am found in error, then I will do what I most do.
I'm glad you are against the vaccine, I said I read them, and I am glad about that, but your 'death quotes" I disagree with but did asked for the links to check if I erred. How many times must I ask for the proof.

Me thinks you need to look into the mirror, and say those words to yourself. You still are not supplying your links to support your death quotes.
Those who evade to provide, and then accuse are the ones not to be trust. Especially when there is no Covid virus......it's all fraud, so are the quotes you gave. Plain and simple.

Now if you will not supply the quotes where you got your quotes from, then this conversation is over. Simple, I will not be drawn into a contentious debate any further.
I give apologies and ask for forgiveness, when I know I am convicted, and so far there is no links to prove you were not listening to false quotas.
And that "quote" you added was not to you, it was towards another member. So please mind your own business. Thank you.
It's all on you.

 

[PennEd]

I'm sorry,

I accept. Even with the attached conditions.

You still are not supplying your links to support your death quotes.

You utterly missed the whole point of my post about the deaths. Not sure how someone could have, but you did.

I KNOW the deaths are vastly inflated. If you read and comprehended my post you’d see the point I was making was the lies being told about the Covid deaths, and how NO other COD had a running tally from the year before. My post was so effective that the person I was addressing didn’t even retort with double talk nonsense.

Understand I know the numbers are phony but I showed him that even Google and the msm, and gov numbers showed their breakdown of Covid deaths between 2020 and 2021.

The poster was saying we’ve had 600k plus Covid deaths because that’s what he’s parroting from those entities. I showed him that it’s ridiculous to keep year over year totals. No other listed COD does that.

Here are the msm numbers I got straight from Google.

From the cdc site:
The COVID-19 pandemic caused approximately 375,000 deaths in the United States during 2020.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm

 

[ZNP]

I'm sorry, I am not sure what you are trying to relay to me. I do stand against the Pharmaceutical Corporate mindset. I look to all things natural to deal with any minor problems I have. I do not take any medications whatsoever, and stopped trusting doctor's and the medical profession since the mid 80's.
The Lord is my healer, if and when He thinks I need it, however I do not have any problems, except for teeth issues.
I am against all the corporate medical practices around the world so, I am not truly understanding your upset at me. MY qutoe was to another party

I am supporting your position. I already responded to the person who is claiming that even though Sorcery is taken from the Greek word that we get Pharmacy from they are two different things. My point, and I gather yours as well, is that Sorcery as used in the book of revelation is a very appropriate term for a chimera virus created in a bioweapons lab and a mRNA vaccine which in no way resembles the bronze serpent hanging on a pole lifted up for all to see.

We are talking about genetic engineering which by all accounts is still considered "magical" and from an ethics standpoint is seen as "playing God".