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Aidan1

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Exit from what. I am a believer, saved and sealed. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

The word " Christian" is not in my Bible. The apostle Paul has not written anywhere in his epistles to become a Christian.
Maby you should read Acts. 11, 26. Otherwise your bible is missing something.
 
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“Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

From experience I can tell you , you will Never convince this group to let anything into thier belief . any and every scripture you show them will be rejected they will go in huge circles to avoid the gospel based on thier own explanations. Which actually are almost always posts from Joseph prince or Paul Ellis

sad but fruitless
It is sad, but I am not trying to convince anybody, just discussing the verses. It is about my biblestudy, not about converting others, not about arguing. I would wish however, that some nicks stopped goading and spamming, making christian forums such a mess as the secular ones.
 

JaumeJ

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In all fairness, the adopted children of the Most High were called Christians, but as for adopting that name, true, there is nothing saying so as far as I have always been given to understand.

Perhaps if one studies Paull's explanation of what a true Jew is it will be clear. Allwho love and praise God are the true Jews. Many say they are Jews but they are a congregation of Satan.
 

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Because that is the denomination that is correct in the teachings, and is what I study. The actual word of God. And the early times theologians who studied it, the apostles and the apostles apostles. Why are you attacking a denomination you do not know about? I have not told people to become brainless sheeps who cannot think for themselves, to go and be indocterinated. I adviced people to ask an orthodox priest, nun or reach out to common members at orthodox churches. To get answers, that they can then make up their own minds on, as individuals, that we are told to be. As in the opposite of the crowd in the movie "life of brian", when Brian tells them they are all individuals. Then they all chant "yes, we are all individuals". If you do not know that from the bible. Think for yourself seems to be like greek for most christians.


no denomination is correct completely most likely because they carry with them the teachings of men (doctrines). but wherever truth is found in each denomination -- then there it is.
 
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Correct in the teachings, and is what I study. I have yet to find perversion of scripture there. This is not the case in lutheran and catholic practice. Lying on Jesus and God, and rewriting what he meant, that is a big no for me, and I reject it. You do for yourself, not telling you that you must think like me. As my previous comment stated, you are an individual, you make up your own mind.
 

Aidan1

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Exit from what. I am a believer, saved and sealed. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

The word " Christian" is not in my Bible. The apostle Paul has not written anywhere in his epistles to become a Christian.
Then you maby should read Acts 11, 26. In Antioch the disciples where first called Christians.
 

Hann57

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Then you maby should read Acts 11, 26. In Antioch the disciples where first called Christians.
Acts was not written to me. Read the first verse. Act 1:1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,

Luke contradicts Paul's account of how he got saved. That is called here say.

Act 9:19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.
Act 9:20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.


Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

Paul did not go into the synagogues.
 
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Good Day!
Acts was not written to me.
16 All Scripture is God-breathed [given by divine inspiration] and is profitable for instruction, for conviction [of sin], for correction [of error and restoration to obedience], for training in righteousness [learning to live in conformity to God’s will, both publicly and privately—behaving honorably with personal integrity and moral courage];
17 so that the [a]man of God may be complete and proficient, outfitted and thoroughly equipped for every good work.

God Bless!
 

Aidan1

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Acts was not written to me. Read the first verse. Act 1:1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,

Luke contradicts Paul's account of how he got saved. That is called here say.

Act 9:19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.
Act 9:20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.


Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

Paul did not go into the synagogues.
Acts was not written to me. Read the first verse. Act 1:1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,

Luke contradicts Paul's account of how he got saved. That is called here say.

Act 9:19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.
Act 9:20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.


Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

Paul did not go into the synagogues.
Why then you think the bible is adressed to you? Is your name adressed?
Which strange teaching you are following?
So Acts and Luke is according to you not word of God?
 

Hann57

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You need to get saved from what I have told you about.

2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

If you are not saved you are a natural man.

1Co_2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

You will not have a clue about the Bible because you are a natural man. All you have is teachers who teach you doctrines of devils.

2Ti_4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

1Ti_4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

I told you the gospel at first. If you refuse to obey it, then this is going no where . Debating will not get you saved.
 

Aidan1

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You need to get saved from what I have told you about.

2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

If you are not saved you are a natural man.

1Co_2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

You will not have a clue about the Bible because you are a natural man. All you have is teachers who teach you doctrines of devils.

2Ti_4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

1Ti_4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

I told you the gospel at first. If you refuse to obey it, then this is going no where . Debating will not get you saved.
If you denying gods word, then you are not mor then a false teacher. I mean, what is your goal? To please God? How you can please God if you ignore His Word?
 

JaumeJ

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I bless Abraham for doing what was neceswsary to hear the Gospel first. He is our spiritual forefather while the true Abraham or Honored Father of the nations, is God.
Learn how all nations are notw eligible to salvation by the Blood of the Lamb because of the first truly righteous man. Please do not bring up those who were deemed worthy such as Enoch, NoaH ETC. aBRAHAM BELIEVE eLOHANUE, ERGO WAS DEEMED RIGHTEOUS..
 

Hann57

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If you denying gods word, then you are not mor then a false teacher. I mean, what is your goal? To please God? How you can please God if you ignore His Word?
You are ignoring Gods word. You disobey the gospel of Christ. This is my last contact with you.
I am not here to debate till the cows come home. You need to believe in the gospel Paul was given by Christ.

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
 

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I have not read through the bible yet, so I am not sure if there is even more to salvation. so I will not be definitive for others. I do not want you to think one way or another. I am not here to point you, I just chat about verses and other stuff.
The Greek Orthodox and the Churches founded by Paul, Luke & Timothy are not the same. In fact they Claim to have been founded by Mark. They seem to be quite similar to the RCC and seem to like to adorn themselves with robes, vestments and other things that seem quite out of place for a new testament church. I've got it, Pharasee's. People have a great deal of trouble worship a God we can't see or touch
What was Gideon's ephod?





A passage in the Book of Exodus describes the Ephod as an elaborate garment worn by the high priest, and upon which the Hoshen, or breastplate containing Urim and Thummim, rested. ... Gideon is additionally described as creating an ephod made up of 1,700 shekels of gold (Judges 8:25–27).

It was made from the spoils of war with the Midianites with only 300 troops in his army. Gideon had it made as a tribute to God for the victory. Instead of worshiping God in honor of victory. People started worshiping the garment.

It was Idoltry.
 

Magenta

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Acts was not written to me.
Neither were the epistles called Corinthians, Ephesians, Galatians, Romans, Thessalonians, or Titus...
which were all written by Paul. So why are you quoting them and telling us to read them???
 
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#57
The Greek Orthodox and the Churches founded by Paul, Luke & Timothy are not the same. In fact they Claim to have been founded by Mark. They seem to be quite similar to the RCC and seem to like to adorn themselves with robes, vestments and other things that seem quite out of place for a new testament church. I've got it, Pharasee's. People have a great deal of trouble worship a God we can't see or touch
What was Gideon's ephod?




A passage in the Book of Exodus describes the Ephod as an elaborate garment worn by the high priest, and upon which the Hoshen, or breastplate containing Urim and Thummim, rested. ... Gideon is additionally described as creating an ephod made up of 1,700 shekels of gold (Judges 8:25–27).

It was made from the spoils of war with the Midianites with only 300 troops in his army. Gideon had it made as a tribute to God for the victory. Instead of worshiping God in honor of victory. People started worshiping the garment.

It was Idoltry.
Whatever you say, is fine for you. Look at the garment of the high priests then, and choose ones with the cheapest and most modest. Should be the orthodox ones. I am not being derailed. I stay on my path.
 
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Acts was not written to me. Read the first verse. Act 1:1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,

Luke contradicts Paul's account of how he got saved. That is called here say.

Act 9:19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.
Act 9:20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.


Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

Paul did not go into the synagogues.
Luke us a historian he wrote down historical events not doctrine

And he most definitely did
Not contradict Paul
 

Cabrillo

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Whatever you say, is fine for you. Look at the garment of the high priests then, and choose ones with the cheapest and most modest. Should be the orthodox ones. I am not being derailed. I stay on my path.
I'm Mennonite/Anabaptist. We don't believe in Orthoxy at all. No Vatican, No Central committee, No robes or crosses, no man made rules or doctrines. Scripture only. Scripture proves scripture. Every Pastor is responsible to God and his congregation only. No outside oversight. We choose our pastors with God's help. They aren't sent to us. In General we don't vote for President. We don't follow Kings or Popes either.