The only Gospel that saves.

[Aidan1]

Because that is the denomination that is correct in the teachings, and is what I study. The actual word of God. And the early times theologians who studied it, the apostles and the apostles apostles. Why are you attacking a denomination you do not know about? I have not told people to become brainless sheeps who cannot think for themselves, to go and be indocterinated. I adviced people to ask an orthodox priest, nun or reach out to common members at orthodox churches. To get answers, that they can then make up their own minds on, as individuals, that we are told to be. As in the opposite of the crowd in the movie "life of brian", when Brian tells them they are all individuals. Then they all chant "yes, we are all individuals". If you do not know that from the bible. Think for yourself seems to be like greek for most christians.

So baptising children and honor ikones is correct biblical teaching?

 

[mindfulzen]

So baptising children and honor ikones is correct biblical teaching?

Baptizing children is incorrect, baptism is clearly a choice one must make on his/her own accord. Try using full sentences, and make the iconthing clear, after boogeling "sins of the orthodoxy". Bit bored with trickery, inform me of this terrible, terrible thing about orthodox people and icons. And type something contextual that I can respond to. You must be scandinavian btw, "ikon", that is how we type it here, hallo broder😉

 

[Hann57]

Hann states he is not Christian

need more be said?

he probably cannot find the exit and needs help

I am saved by believing Paul's gospel that was given to him by Christ.

 

[Blain]

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Paul was chosen by God to preach the gospel he had received from Christ.

Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Which gospel are you trusting for salvation?

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Why Paul's gospel only?

This gospel Paul had received from Christ was not known before it was revealed to him.

Eph_3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Eph_6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

Rom_16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

There is no other gospel for you to be saved by today.

To be clear there is no ssuch thing as Pauls gospel there is only the gospel of Christ, Paul himself only ever pointed to Christ he even made it a point to preach only of Christ. I hope you are not in one of those Christian cults that idolize Paul I have run into a few of those in my time and they hold him in almost as high regard as Christ himself which Paul would not appreciate

 

[Aidan1]

Baptizing children is incorrect, baptism is clearly a choice one must make on his/her own accord. Try using full sentences, and make the iconthing clear, after boogeling "sins of the orthodoxy". Bit bored with trickery, inform me of this terrible, terrible thing about orthodox people and icons. And type something contextual that I can respond to. You must be scandinavian btw, "ikon", that is how we type it here, hallo broder😉

No, i am little bit more south of your country 😀
So how Babys can choose by there own.? I am coming from protestant Background and thought 25 years i am a Christian because i was baptised as Baby.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Because that is the denomination that is correct in the teachings, and is what I study. The actual word of God. And the early times theologians who studied it, the apostles and the apostles apostles. Why are you attacking a denomination you do not know about? I have not told people to become brainless sheeps who cannot think for themselves, to go and be indocterinated. I adviced people to ask an orthodox priest, nun or reach out to common members at orthodox churches. To get answers, that they can then make up their own minds on, as individuals, that we are told to be. As in the opposite of the crowd in the movie "life of brian", when Brian tells them they are all individuals. Then they all chant "yes, we are all individuals". If you do not know that from the bible. Think for yourself seems to be like greek for most christians.

so basically you follow a watered down version of some sort of the roman catholic works based gospel. which is no gospel at all.

 

[SophieT]

I am saved by believing Paul's gospel that was given to him by Christ.

you are the one that stated not Christian on your bio

no one made you do that

 

[mindfulzen]

so basically you follow a watered down version of some sort of the roman catholic works based gospel. which is no gospel at all.

Correct in essence. Focusing on the actual messages from the old testament, what Jesus and the gang elaborated on those things, and the work of the apostles after Jesus was no more. The story did not end there. And on and on later, on further works on those topics. And the precursor texts, that lays the foundation for the new testament. The church of Anioch, that is the foundation of the church of Christ, along with some others in a few other cities. The story continues, the teachings are continued for us, Jesus points to God and the old testament, but also forward through his loyal apostles work, and the church he founded, and the movement that was started if you will. That ended the roman empire about 270 years later. If that is watered down to you, to focus on the essence, and learn about the works on that post, present and prior to it. Much like catholics, but not quite. And that pope is not my pope. Much wrong with the catholic practice. Inital focus is good, but it went wayward at a point. And it ended up a corporation rather than a religion.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Why Paul's gospel only?

Paul did not have a gospel which was any different from the Gospel preached by Christ and the apostles. There is ONLY ONE GOSPEL. And that Gospel presents Christ as the only Savior of sinners, and His death, burial, and resurrection as the Gospel message. Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and rose again for our justification according to the Scriptures. The Gospel demands repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21).

As to Orthodox churches, they have incorporated many things into their system which are not according to Scripture.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Correct in essence. Focusing on the actual messages from the old testament, what Jesus and the gang elaborated on those things, and the work of the apostles after Jesus was no more. The story did not end there. And on and on later, on further works on those topics. And the precursor texts, that lays the foundation for the new testament. The church of Anioch, that is the foundation of the church of Christ, along with some others in a few other cities. The story continues, the teachings are continued for us, Jesus points to God and the old testament, but also forward through his loyal apostles work, and the church he founded, and the movement that was started if you will. That ended the roman empire about 270 years later. If that is watered down to you, to focus on the essence, and learn about the works on that post, present and prior to it. Much like catholics, but not quite. And that pope is not my pope. Much wrong with the catholic practice. Inital focus is good, but it went wayward at a point. And it ended up a corporation rather than a religion.

Can you tell us what we need to do to get to heaven?

 

[mindfulzen]

Can you tell us what we need to do to get to heaven?

I can try, but I am not sure. I suggest you get faith. You trust the faith. Then you get marked by the holy spirit, if it happens. Then you pray, and ask to join Gods empire. Then you sin no more. Good with God.

 

[John146]

Too much wrong in your OP.

The Gospel Paul taught was not HIS Gospel, it was the Gospel of Jesus. It was not a NEW Gospel, it was the Gospel Jesus taught when He was on earth during His Ministry.

It is true that there is only ONE Gospel of Salvation. The Gospel of Jesus the Christ. Paul was NOT the only Disciple that taught the Gospel of Jesus, all of the Disciples taught it just as Jesus had taught them. I know this because it is born out as Truth in Scripture. As well, Jesus instructed the Disciples to teach His Gospel to all the world.

Matthew, Chapter 28:

18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

All things? Jesus taught not to go to the Samaritans or Gentiles? Jesus taught to take a sacrifice to the priest. Have you ever given the gospel of Jesus Christ to someone? Did you ever say, "the kingdom of heaven is at hand"? That is exactly what Jesus told His disciples to say when they went out preaching. Do you heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead and cast out devils?

The gospel of Jesus Christ is not the gospel of the kingdom. The gospel is ALL about the d,b,r of Jesus Christ for sins.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I can try, but I am not sure. I suggest you get faith. You trust the faith. Then you get marked by the holy spirit, if it happens. Then you pray, and ask to join Gods empire. Then you sin no more. Good with God.

So your not sure. But you want me to think the Greek Orthodox Church has the right gosplel?

its funny. They say we have to do all these things to get to heaven. If they have the truth, why don’t you agree with them?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

So you paste this all over the place and PM it to people, but cannot do followups with own words, what is this? Is this a new tactic from silicon valleys techgiants, automatic BOTfarms next to the russian river, just bombarding spam all over conservative sites? Show you are a person by replying and make points about your scripture. You PMed me, and could not use your own words to defend your PM. How many people have gotten this paste in their PM? How many places have it been pasted in to derail threads? What is the definition of spam?

I got the same one I find it to actually be a paste and copy from a well
Known false teacher

 

[Pilgrimshope]

What are you trying to tell me? Just get it out, without trying to give me any type of missionarymessage to take to heart. I am not member of any church, so you do not insult my church or faith. Will not join yours. Just telling you that I agreed on the off topic remark, and that people who do not understand had better go see an orthodox priest if they do not read for themselves. And think for themselves. Do what you want, and I do what I want, individualism. Faith is personal. You should not try to deconvert others, just mind your own faith. This is for discussing scripture, not missionary.

“Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

From experience I can tell you , you will Never convince this group to let anything into thier belief . any and every scripture you show them will be rejected they will go in huge circles to avoid the gospel based on thier own explanations. Which actually are almost always posts from Joseph prince or Paul Ellis

sad but fruitless

 

[Cabrillo]

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Paul was chosen by God to preach the gospel he had received from Christ.

Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Which gospel are you trusting for salvation?

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Why Paul's gospel only?

This gospel Paul had received from Christ was not known before it was revealed to him.

Eph_3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Eph_6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

Rom_16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

There is no other gospel for you to be saved by today.

Tripe, hogwash, dung. Baalam's ass just spoke.
Matthew, Mark, Luke or John has the message thru & thru. The Gospel means Good News. The entire life of Christ is the Gospel. Paul was the disciple to the Gentiles but Hebrews is for those more in tune with Levitical laws and Revelations is more about ressurection of the dead & the rapture. The Lord's return, 2 judgements and the rest of eternity. It all sounds like Good News to us. Bad news for Lucifer, Beelzebub, Asherah, Baal, Hitler, Stalin...

The entire new testament is the Gospel that helps to save.

Only Jesus saves​

 

[Hann57]

To be clear there is no ssuch thing as Pauls gospel there is only the gospel of Christ, Paul himself only ever pointed to Christ he even made it a point to preach only of Christ. I hope you are not in one of those Christian cults that idolize Paul I have run into a few of those in my time and they hold him in almost as high regard as Christ himself which Paul would not appreciate

Paul was chosen by God. Paul recevied the gospel from Christ to give to us. Paul preached Christ crucified. Obviously to me its not about the man Paul. Think it out.

 

[Cabrillo]

Paul was chosen by God. Paul recevied the gospel from Christ to give to us. Paul preached Christ crucified. Obviously to me its not about the man Paul. Think it out.

Paul was the most prolific. Only Jesus saves.

 

[Hann57]

Exit from what. I am a believer, saved and sealed. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

The word " Christian" is not in my Bible. The apostle Paul has not written anywhere in his epistles to become a Christian.

 

[mindfulzen]

So your not sure. But you want me to think the Greek Orthodox Church has the right gosplel?

its funny. They say we have to do all these things to get to heaven. If they have the truth, why don’t you agree with them?

I have not read through the bible yet, so I am not sure if there is even more to salvation. so I will not be definitive for others. I do not want you to think one way or another. I am not here to point you, I just chat about verses and other stuff.