L.A. school officials order sweeping student vaccine mandate, a first by a major district

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ZNP

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My suggestion: go get the virus. It's easy enough, especially in countries like the US. The death toll is around 100 times Australia's. We have less than a tenth of the USA's population. Do the maths. You are most fortunate. You can catch it easily. You will have natural immunity. You can come back tell us how little it affected you. Unless you don't.

Australia should reach 80% of the population vaccinated before the end of this year. That's 80% of 26 million people who are not shouting louder. Many want the roll out to be faster.

Protests here are mostly against mandatory vaccination. I can understand that. I think it should be voluntary. That's not the same as saying vaccination is wrong.
You are giving medical advice without knowing anything about me? Does this open up ChristianChat to liability?
 

ZNP

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The reason that smallpox vaccine was no longer administered was because smallpox was eradicated. By vaccination.
Highly misleading. Smallpox as an epidemic died away due to natural immunity, not due to any vaccine. The only time vaccines are able to "eradicate" a virus is when it is a "spot fire" a small out break in a town or a rural area and they can come in and rapidly vaccinate everyone in the area.
 

Icedaisey

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My suggestion: go get the virus. It's easy enough, especially in countries like the US. The death toll is around 100 times Australia's. We have less than a tenth of the USA's population. Do the maths. You are most fortunate. You can catch it easily. You will have natural immunity. You can come back tell us how little it affected you. Unless you don't.

Australia should reach 80% of the population vaccinated before the end of this year. That's 80% of 26 million people who are not shouting louder. Many want the roll out to be faster.

Protests here are mostly against mandatory vaccination. I can understand that. I think it should be voluntary. That's not the same as saying vaccination is wrong.
That's true. It's criticizing people who don't volunteer to get the injection, while saying the Covid-19 vaccine should be voluntary that is wrong.
 

Gideon300

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There's plenty to see here. And you're right, death has a way of shutting people up. What a tragedy if that be children given no choice but to be injected with something that took away their young hope and dreams because they had no choice if they wanted to go to school and learn something.
Sadly, they did.

There will always be those who conform.
And those who don't.
In this country when the unlawful occupier of our White House pushes the vaccine, and impart our free choice is to soon not be tolerated, while our Congress is exempt from the vaccine, the lies about security in everyone else mass compliance to injection becomes a threat, as an obvious lie.

But it's an old tactic. Divide and conquer.
So we should have never had smallpox, diphtheria, yellow fever, TB, cholera, typhoid, rubella (responsible for many disables children), measles, whooping cough and so on vaccines? Try looking up the history of some of these sicknesses. Then tell me again how wicked vaccinations are.
 

Icedaisey

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Several dozen cases. Again the plural of anecdote is not data
Well, you asked for peer review data and you got it. Now you're trying to discredit what you knew nothing about in the first place.
 

Dude653

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Well, you asked for peer review data and you got it. Now you're trying to discredit what you knew nothing about in the first place.
No I didn't get peer review data I got someone mentioning a few personal anecdotes. Anecdotes are not data
 

Icedaisey

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So we should have never had smallpox, diphtheria, yellow fever, TB, cholera, typhoid, rubella (responsible for many disables children), measles, whooping cough and so on vaccines? Try looking up the history of some of these sicknesses. Then tell me again how wicked vaccinations are.
You're off the topic. Fallacy not withstanding.

You also resort to double talk. One one hand making sweeping charges against those opposed to consenting to Covid-19 vaccine, while later claiming to believe the choice should be voluntary.

You're not really having a discussion. You're talking to yourself and at the same time are refuting your own pov.
 

Icedaisey

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No I didn't get peer review data I got someone mentioning a few personal anecdotes. Anecdotes are not data
Ah, then you should have read the peer review information linked, or take the same amount of time to make cracks against links offered to your request, and find the data referred to yourself.

When it's there and you don't care to follow the leads, you don't really have a point.
 

Dude653

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Ah, then you should have read the peer review information linked, or take the same amount of time to make cracks against links offered to your request, and find the data referred to yourself.

When it's there and you don't care to follow the leads, you don't really have a point.
Troy every fact check site I looked at said the Israel thing is propaganda.
But yeah all the fact checkers are lying and this one chick is telling the truth
 

JohnDB

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The reason that smallpox vaccine was no longer administered was because smallpox was eradicated. By vaccination.
I was one of the last generation of kids to get it...it went in for another year or two after I got mine.
 

Dude653

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Oops I meant to say literally every fact check. Google voice to type is bad about messing up my words
 

Icedaisey

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I did not see any disclaimer, I could definitely see someone taking it as medical advice. Explain your "no".
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Icedaisey

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Oops I meant to say literally every fact check. Google voice to type is bad about messing up my words
Google GBoard on phones has that same issue. Ah, technowledgy....:p
 

ZNP

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My suggestion: go get the virus. It's easy enough, especially in countries like the US. The death toll is around 100 times Australia's. We have less than a tenth of the USA's population. Do the maths. You are most fortunate. You can catch it easily. You will have natural immunity. You can come back tell us how little it affected you. Unless you don't.

Australia should reach 80% of the population vaccinated before the end of this year. That's 80% of 26 million people who are not shouting louder. Many want the roll out to be faster.

Protests here are mostly against mandatory vaccination. I can understand that. I think it should be voluntary. That's not the same as saying vaccination is wrong.
Icedaisy has cleared up the issue of liability. If anyone takes this advice to get the vaccine and has adverse affects you cannot sue the doctor or big pharma, they have exemptions, but you can sue Gideon300
 

Dude653

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Google GBoard on phones has that same issue. Ah, technowledgy....:p
I don't know about other people but typing on that little keyboard is dang near impossible for me because I keep hitting every letter except the one I was intending to hit
 

ZNP

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I don't know about other people but typing on that little keyboard is dang near impossible for me because I keep hitting every letter except the one I was intending to hit
So then try hitting letters you don't want.
 

Genipher

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So we should have never had smallpox, diphtheria, yellow fever, TB, cholera, typhoid, rubella (responsible for many disables children), measles, whooping cough and so on vaccines? Try looking up the history of some of these sicknesses. Then tell me again how wicked vaccinations are.
Many of those diseases can be thwarted with a proper diet (for example, if you get measles you need high doses of Vitamin A...which 3rd world countries have a hard time obtaining) and proper hygiene (for example, not throwing your s**t in the streets like they used to do). Or in the case of water borne illnesses, we now have "treated" water and if not that, we boil/filter. Compare that to folks who drank out of what they assumed was clean streams "back in history", and you've got yourself a good case of typhoid.
 

Icedaisey

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I don't know about other people but typing on that little keyboard is dang near impossible for me because I keep hitting every letter except the one I was intending to hit
And if you adjust the keyboard to its largest configuration the keys don't get proportionately larger. It's the whole keyboard that expands and nearly covers the screen you're trying to read and respond to.

There are keyboards that adapt to your phone as an extension. Of course you won't have just one item, the phone itself, to carry with you but at least it wouldn't be as frustrating when writing PM's and posts.