End from the Beginning

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Pilgrimshope

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Looking for someone with spiritual abilities to answer my question about how the Lord declared the end from the beginning. Who has the gift??????????
“Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done,

saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭46:9-

he declares whatever comes before it comes even unto the end because he is the creator his power of foreknowledge never ceases at the sixth day he’s been speaking the end from always through prophecy and then It’s fulfillment comes to pass in Christ even the end will come by his return already spoken forth long ago
 

Deuteronomy

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You're reading a theology into the passage that's not there. What does the passage actually say? God has declared the end from the beginning. God has declared how the end is going to turn out, and that end has been declared from the beginning. We now know the end because He has declared it in Scripture.
Hello John, (assuming that you are referring to the theology of God's sovereignty here), while I realize that the theology concerning His "sovereignty" is, at times, stated more directly in other verses/passages than this one (e.g. take note again of the examples from Scripture that I posited at the end of my last post), v10's, "I will establish", tells us that there is far more to God's statement (that He, "declares the end from the beginning") than a simple prophetic vision of how the future will unravel itself by an impotent Onlooker.

As He says in the following verse/same passage,

Isaiah 46
11 Calling a bird of prey from the east,
The man of My purpose from a far country.
Truly I have spoken; truly I will bring it to pass.
I have planned it, surely I will do it.​

Yahweh is more than the AWOL deity of Deism, and He is FAR more than a Divine soothsayer, rather, He is the sovereign Lord of all. And while it's clear that He has given us free will, and that He often allows us to act according to its dictates (e.g. sin), our free will is never independent of His purview, foreordination and control.

Nothing in the Universe is, PTL :)

God bless you!

~Deut

Proverbs 16
33 The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the LORD.
Ephesians 1
11 We have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will.
 

Deuteronomy

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This, we are in agreement. All that God will bring to pass is set forth in his word.
Well, at least we agree about something :) (although I believe I would have said it this way instead, all that is set forth in His word God will bring to pass .. as I believe, along with Ephesians 1:11, that God works ALL THINGS after the counsel of His will .. which I'm sure that you already know ;)).