Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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John146

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Good for those who will have the money for buy the medicine; for those which get the correct dosis;
For those which can bear the sideeffects;
Whats about those which have mo money,? takeing the wrong doses? Suffer because of the sideeffects?

Yes it is a quite new way for an vaccine. And of course their is a risk. The Alternative is so long the virus is active and there is not found an other way of treatment: let them die!

And in mankind we never had this challenge combined with the knowledge to produce a stuff to fight against in such a short time.
I hear what you are saying. I'd rather pay $185 and get over it than end up in the hospital. I'm an at risk patient. My doctors have not pushed the vaccine on me yet.

The medication is rather inexpensive. The $185 is more for the doctor visit. If the government would give their ok for these frontline meds, the meds themselves are very affordable. But that doesn't make big pharma any money.

The government is giving the Afghanistan refugees Ivermectin. Hmmmm......
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Isaiah 53 says that by HIS wounds I am HEALED.
therefore, even if something does attack my body I am healed through Christ. (and I have NO DOUBT that that also includes Covid and all it's variants. The Lord has proven this to me time and time again, I have NO REASON to start DOUBTING Him now)

I am not afraid of death in this world........
are you?

When I die, I know where I'll go and Who I will be with.
I do too. I wil be with the Lord

But I am not going to tempt God and say you will heal me and keep this disease from me If he offers me help, even in the form of a vaccine, I will take it.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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and yet you boast of WILLFULLY putting God knows what into your body with the current jab.
I have not boasted of anything, Thats your words not mine.

I just said I took it to protect myself because I am high risk, and I did it for my family

You need to go back and ready maam.. I explained myself awhile ago. That I meant to say that in my situation. I would not love my family if I did not take the shot. BECAUSE OF MY SITUATION. Its funny how you take one post. Ignore the rest. And THINK YOU KNOW EVERYTHING. It is funny how my dear sister understood what I said after I explained it. But you either skipped over it or failed to read it.

You misunderstood me sis. I was just making an argument from a different side.
one of the reasons I got it it for My grandkids. After watching my sons wife’s mother die from covid last Christmas. They all got it when they went to her house she died two days later.

I saw 4 other people my age die from covid at the same time. So when the vaccine was available I was first in line
I also at the same time stopped watching the news. I can’t trust anything I hear anymore
From this point of view. I made the statment and I stand by it

again, You do not like it TOUGH. I am not here to make you happy.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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you are WONDERFUL..........................



(at putting words in other peoples mouth :) )

Again, please show me where I said this.

I never said it's evil or not to take it.
I have only said what is written in the Word of God.
What He has said in His word.
I am not stupid. I know exactly what you were saying, Now your backtracking from it?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Honestly, it sucks to be all of us at this point. satan has so muddied the waters by playing both sides against each other ... and we ain't seen nothin' yet

(final answer)
Amen

Thats why especially as christians we need to stop this nonsense.

If people do not want to take it. Thats n them. If people do want to take it, thats n them

To spread fear and hate based on what we hear in the media is just causing division. It is walking right into satans hands..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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in the past three weeks, I have seen more untimely deaths of people I know more than ever.
Same here

But Covid is a sham (shaking my head)
 

Aidan1

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I hear what you are saying. I'd rather pay $185 and get over it than end up in the hospital. I'm an at risk patient. My doctors have not pushed the vaccine on me yet.

The medication is rather inexpensive. The $185 is more for the doctor visit. If the government would give their ok for these frontline meds, the meds themselves are very affordable. But that doesn't make big pharma any money.

The government is giving the Afghanistan refugees Ivermectin. Hmmmm......
I understand your point. In your case and of those which have health problems like you. This medicaments may fit.
Here in germany they are searching for alternatives to the vaccine for those which would expect high risk , too.
The studies in germany found in ivermectin only a litte help. For to help effective the dose of this stuff must be much more higher. But this would be also a risk for those which take it. Because it is not proofed in the needet dose.
Thats what I found in german medical news.
 
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It does seem to be mutating at a highly accelerated rate
Yes, and this is where people aren't paying enough attention to. It is Mutating quicker from one Variant to the next. Colds, Flu's, and other ailments don't mutate in the [SAME] way. This is why this is dangerous because it's easy to underestimate and you end up on a cold slab before you know it.
 

JohnDB

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Yes, and this is where people aren't paying enough attention to. It is Mutating quicker from one Variant to the next. Colds, Flu's, and other ailments don't mutate in the [SAME] way. This is why this is dangerous because it's easy to underestimate and you end up on a cold slab before you know it.
Usually a virus only has a few thousand people at a time that are infected...now we have millions of current infections and an extended period of time being infectious before symptoms appear.
Influenza has about 24 hours before symptoms appear... C-19 has 10 days.

This isn't even taking into consideration the domestic animals that can be infected and transmit the virus. (Dogs are man's best friend....cats will infect you)

So.... because of the long incubation, high numbers of people infected it seems to mutate quickly.
 
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Because they've been lured away from their first love
those silly people that seem to prefer poop = sin [to] good...There is a difference between a saint in a flies body..&..being a fly....see laugh
 

JohnDB

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There's a huge danger here for some people...

Naming something good as evil/bad is blasphemy of the holy spirit...

It's not just a mistake of not understanding...it's a life altering choice of evil. Jesus proclaimed this after a woman was healed and the pharisees claimed it was by the power of Satan.
 
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There's a huge danger here for some people...

Naming something good as evil/bad is blasphemy of the holy spirit...

It's not just a mistake of not understanding...it's a life altering choice of evil. Jesus proclaimed this after a woman was healed and the pharisees claimed it was by the power of Satan.
He that shows no mercy will receive no mercy therefor have no mercy for sin.
 
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I do too. I wil be with the Lord

But I am not going to tempt God and say you will heal me and keep this disease from me If he offers me help, even in the form of a vaccine, I will take it.
He already has offered help and it WAS NOT through some rushed concoction that the government and big pharma are trying so desperately to enforce on people.
 
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I have not boasted of anything, Thats your words not mine.

I just said I took it to protect myself because I am high risk, and I did it for my family

You need to go back and ready maam.. I explained myself awhile ago. That I meant to say that in my situation. I would not love my family if I did not take the shot. BECAUSE OF MY SITUATION. Its funny how you take one post. Ignore the rest. And THINK YOU KNOW EVERYTHING. It is funny how my dear sister understood what I said after I explained it. But you either skipped over it or failed to read it.



From this point of view. I made the statment and I stand by it

again, You do not like it TOUGH. I am not here to make you happy.
no, I read it, but I guess if were not here to comment on something right away then we're not allowed to do so at all :rolleyes:
And as you say, you were stating how you feel about it, but I guess no one else is able to do the same :confused:


post 332 you said to me:

But it does not give you the right to stay I do not follow God!
and in post 380 I asked you to show me where I said such.

I NEVER said that you don't follow God (please show me where I said that- if that was said to you, it WAS NOT by me.) ..........
You CAN NOT show me such because I NEVER said such..............
so instead you want to divert to other subjects.

just STOP..... in fact, it might be a wise idea for you to not reply back to this post unless you can show me where I said you don't follow God.
Because I won't be replying back to you on this subject (of loving children or not)
 
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Usually a virus only has a few thousand people at a time that are infected...now we have millions of current infections and an extended period of time being infectious before symptoms appear.
Influenza has about 24 hours before symptoms appear... C-19 has 10 days.

This isn't even taking into consideration the domestic animals that can be infected and transmit the virus. (Dogs are man's best friend....cats will infect you)

So.... because of the long incubation, high numbers of people infected it seems to mutate quickly.
The difference though, whether Covid is passing through Specie to Specie, the incubation period is also a digestive period where the Virus is Mutating. And then that Mutation is passed along. It's why when it first was discovered it wasn't just people dying of heart attacks. No, they were dying of lung collapses, blood clots, a multiple way result and its hard to track the [Root Cause] with 12 Symptoms being revealed in 20 patients.
 

JTB

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Yes, and this is where people aren't paying enough attention to. It is Mutating quicker from one Variant to the next. Colds, Flu's, and other ailments don't mutate in the [SAME] way. This is why this is dangerous because it's easy to underestimate and you end up on a cold slab before you know it.
Which lends credence to the lab in Wuhan being the source ... they were experimenting with finding ways to get bugs to mutate
 
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SophieT

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What is funny is COVID itself causes all of these side affec ts (blood clotting, Neurological problems, Heart damage) in people who have NEVER had the shot (As ne example, my sister in law had blood clotting and had to have heart surgery diue to damage caused by Covid 19, so I am using real life example. Not something I read in the paper)

so it is logical to suspect that any vaccine whuch attempts to fight the disease MAY CAUSE THE SAME ISSUES

What boggles my mind is people do not put 2 and 2 together.

It is my guess that the antibodies our bodies produce to fight the covid CAUSES those symptoms. and nt the virus itself.

But I guess no ne ever thought of this.

just can't let it go, eh?

you obviously did NOT understand the post (from a scientific journal)

look up spike protein...might help you...maybe not...anyway, your personal experience will not be published in the next scientific journal so there's that too

But I guess no ne ever thought of this
that much is true

from my post:

The spike protein is the toxic part of the virus responsible for the most unique effects of the virus, such as the blood clotting disorders, neurological problems and heart damage. To expect the COVID shot to not produce these kinds of effects would be rather naïve
Nature Reviews Drug Discovery, Aug. 25,2021
the spikes were added...part of the wuhan gift to the world...and Fauci's funding for gain of function

please do not give out medical advice
 
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