Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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phil36

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Corona viruses mutate, that is why it is foolishness to attempt to create a vaccine for them, before you have done it right the virus has mutated. The answer is to build up the immune system and focus on treatments of which there are many.
The phony vaccine is a scam, it is NOT a true vaccine , as is the "scamdemic/plandemic which is conditioning silly people to wear face diapers.
It has all the marking of the Great End Time Deception we have been warned of for thousands of years
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what is a phony vaccine, there is no vaccine that is 100% effective, I mean you do know that don't you? Do you mean that you know of a covid vaccine being used that has 0% efficacy or effectiveness?

And what is a scamdemic? Is 133000 deaths due to covid in the UK a scam, is that what you are really tying to assert. Of course the total hospitalized so far is 525,785, what a scam eh? :rolleyes:


If you know of treatments that have a 100% efficacy and effectiveness please do let us know shittim.


You say it is foolishness to attempt to create a vaccine because the virus mutates. You do know that is one of the reasons why the flu jab is different every year? So why is it foolishness to attempt to find medicines to help people?

I'm not even going to address your view that those who are responsible and wear a face mask are ''silly'' people (I understand also that some can't wear due to medical reasons). It's not a very nice view of your fellow citizens.
 
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I'm a cancer survivor with a compromised immune system. I got Covid back in January and my oncologist was scared. I had two bad days until I got the frontline meds. Literally, within 6 hours of taking the meds I was 100%. This is the testimony of my family and dozens of others I know. We have treatment, but it's been suppressed to push a vaccine. Why? The love of money is the root of all evil. I now trust my immunity. I've been around many positive people and I'm fine. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
exactly....the prophylactics have been suppressed, mocked and ridiculed by the left

literally thousands of doctors have said they work but the empty barrels are making the most noise

The spike protein is the toxic part of the virus responsible for the most unique effects of the virus, such as the blood clotting disorders, neurological problems and heart damage. To expect the COVID shot to not produce these kinds of effects would be rather naïve
Nature Reviews Drug Discovery, Aug. 25,2021

NO ONE knows the long term effects of the dna altering poison. The FDA has approved something that they do not know the long term effects of, while saying 4 months is the magic number

believing in so called 'experts' these days seems more like walking on thin ice. pay attention to the thin ice signs
 

shittim

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Frontlinemds.com

Hydroxy
Ivermectin
Predisone
Z Pack
Albuterol breathing treatment
High dose vitamin D, C, and Zinc

I took them all. They will send it to sick patients overnight. It costs like $185 though. Better than going to the hospital or taking the shot, imo. We don't know what the 2 year, 5 year, or 10 year efficacy of the shot. Neither do we know how many more boosters will be given.
Great news, we know we can get our own quinine from natural sources, grapefruit rind is one. D,C, and Zinc are easily gotten, have heard Quercetin, Resveratrol and other natural supplements too, Oil of Oregano had been a very effective help for me.
thank you kindly
 

Aidan1

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Ask Him, and lean not on your own understanding.
I am doing. It is realy refreshing not to get answers, but be confrontet with false teachings.
 

JohnDB

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I looked at one of our local hospital's website...

Out of the 300 new cases this past week admitted for C-19 less than 10% were vaccinated. That tells me that vaccinations work...they aren't perfect but none of the critical patients on ventilators were vaccinated.

Totally trusting in a vaccine is not good either...but I do trust God to use the Vaccines to keep me alive and well. My Father-in-law is still on oxygen... going to see the doctor for an evaluation to see the damage...his hospital system only has a 50% survival rate for those admitted. We were glad they misread his x-rays and didn't admit him. But he still is far from surviving well.
 

shittim

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I am doing. It is realy refreshing not to get answers, but be confrontet with false teachings.
Bible isn't false, a reprobate custodian might think it is......
 

phil36

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Bible isn't false, a reprobate custodian might think it is......

That's very true the bible is not false. But why do you think Christians like to spread a lot of falsehoods?

or, especially with vitriolic statements like ''those silly people who wear face diapers''?
 

Aidan1

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Aidan1 i think covid is a lie. even if one gets sick from it.It's not a superlative. Ok death is not what we fear.It's concern 4 others souls.This life is only 2 prepare us 4 the next,or ele's we would fight 4 the earths kingdom.
Covid is in my hospital reality and no lie.
Well, all the shutdowns, restrictians, vaccation are made that it becomes not a Superlative.
Would you think in the same way, if ebola would become a pandemie?
I agree with you, we as gods children have not to fear the death.
But as child of God I cant say, let them all die, doesnt matter. My life is saved.
We all are taking medicine if we are sick, searching for help after accident. Medicine has of course his 2 sides. Help and misuse.
Want you go back 200 years?
The soul is more important then the body. But for to reach people with the gospel word and deed belongs together.
 

Aidan1

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Bible isn't false, a reprobate custodian might think it is......
If you claim that someone who becomes covid or covid after vaccination is not abiding in Jesus, then this in my eyes a false teaching which I cant find in the bible. As you sayd correctly: Bible isnt false!
 

Aidan1

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Great news, we know we can get our own quinine from natural sources, grapefruit rind is one. D,C, and Zinc are easily gotten, have heard Quercetin, Resveratrol and other natural supplements too, Oil of Oregano had been a very effective help for me.
thank you kindly
Then hopely you use the correct dosis.
 
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So then a vaccine shouldn't be able to harm you.

You can drink poison and it won't hurt either....

Ok...with you on this so long as you lead the way.
I don't lead the way,
JESUS DOES.
If you want to follow along then I suggest you get on your face before HIM and seek Him.
Stop being double minded, following this person or that. (See James 1)

Yeah, if I end up ingesting a poison it isn't going to hurt, BUT that DOES NOT mean I go out INTENTIONALLY poisoning myself, that would be foolish and testing God (Deuteronomy 6, and Jesus quotes it in Matthew 4).

My Bible says NO WEAPON formed against me shall prosper.
That means I don't need to go running to my nearest white tent jab station seeking a poison concoction because this bioWEAPON called Covid and all it's variants SHALL NOT PROSPER against me.
 

shittim

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If you claim that someone who becomes covid or covid after vaccination is not abiding in Jesus, then this in my eyes a false teaching which I cant find in the bible. As you sayd correctly: Bible isnt false!
said the double minded custodian......
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Big Brother is very clever. He has even made some Christians into vaccine pushers.


 
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It does not say you shall not die from it though
Isaiah 53 says that by HIS wounds I am HEALED.
therefore, even if something does attack my body I am healed through Christ. (and I have NO DOUBT that that also includes Covid and all it's variants. The Lord has proven this to me time and time again, I have NO REASON to start DOUBTING Him now)

I am not afraid of death in this world........
are you?

When I die, I know where I'll go and Who I will be with.
 

JTB

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That's very true the bible is not false. But why do you think Christians like to spread a lot of falsehoods?

or, especially with vitriolic statements like ''those silly people who wear face diapers''?
Because they've been lured away from their first love
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Isaiah 53 says that by HIS wounds I am HEALED.
therefore, even if something does attack my body I am healed through Christ. (and I have NO DOUBT that that also includes Covid and all it's variants. The Lord has proven this to me time and time again, I have NO REASON to start DOUBTING Him now)

I am not afraid of death in this world........
are you?

When I die, I know where I'll go and Who I will be with.
I was healed and have eternal life
that does not say I will not be harmed by drinking poison or getting ill

Jesus authorized the use if
Medicine for sickness. If you don’t want to take it that’s on you. But don’t tell others it’s evil if they take it. That would be on you also. Especially if they die and they could have been saved
 

JTB

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My Bible says NO WEAPON formed against me shall prosper.
That means I don't need to go running to my nearest white tent jab station seeking a poison concoction because this bioWEAPON called Covid and all it's variants SHALL NOT PROSPER against me.
About as blatently ignorant statements as I have heard.

What about aaaallll those faithful Christians who have caught and died from it or are suffering life-long effects?

Besides, you know, it sucks to be them?
 
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and I stand by that statement and have not backtracked. Its HOW I FEEL

You do not like it THATS TUFF!!
That's fine.
BUT you keep back tracking and trying to say that you didn't say what you said (you said that people don't love their children if they don't take the shot), and you keep trying to dance your way around it.
Don't get your undies in a knot just because others point that out to you.
You want to take this jab THAT'S ON YOU........ not me.
You feel I don't love my kids because i won't take this jab?????
I could very easily say the opposite thing:
"People don't love their kids if they are giving them the shot"
(In fact, that is how I FEEL)
but you know what, AS A PARENT I UNDERSTAND that others children are not my responsibility, and parents are going to do what they feel is in the best interest for them.
And even though I feel that way I would in NO WAY say that someone DOES NOT love their child for doing so.

But it does not give you the right to stay I do not follow God!
I NEVER said that you don't follow God (please show me where I said that- if that was said to you, it WAS NOT by me.) .......... that is not my place to say to someone. That is one thing that I am not willing to stand before the Lord and give account for.
 
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