Texas Abortion Law Leaves Planned Parenthood in Tears

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Genipher

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I haven't seen anyone talking about this here at ChristianChat. Texas has passed a law that abortions can't be performed after baby is 6 weeks old and "allows private citizens to sue anyone who "aids or abets" an abortion." (Can't sue the mother, but the doctor, for example, can be sued.)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-clinic-worker-says-70-063145043.html

Dixon said she's upset with the new law: "I'm actually angry because this is an attack on people's constitutional rights to seek these services. And it's between them and their doctors," she told the outlet.

1. I'd like to see the "constitutional right" that makes it okay to kill another human being. They keep using this as an argument but it's a lie. And if it was a constitutional right, why are they so concerned that that "right" is upheld but not our right to keep and bear arms without infringement, which is a REAL constitutional right?

2. "It's between them and their doctors". HA! If that were true they wouldn't be constantly "asking" taxpayers to front the bill for their "reproductive health".



My husband and I had a friend, yeeeears ago, who's girlfriend aborted their baby. He was devastated. HE wanted the baby. If this had been a law in Oregon, he would have had the ability to sue the doctor for the loss of his child (10K really, in my opinion, doesn't cover the loss but at least it's a start).

I've also wondered if a mother who is "forced" into aborting her baby (by a pushy boyfriend or parent) could sue her parent or boyfriend? Seems that loophole would be there. Which could be a good or bad thing, depending on how honest the woman is about what is going on...

It's incredibly sad that women are crying over the fact that they can't kill their baby. I know it's overly simplistic but...you don't want to have kids? Don't do the thing that creates them!!
 

Billyd

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I'm not from Texas, but I wouldn't set foot in Portland anyway.
 

JohnDB

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What planned Parenthood is upset about is that they are going to lose fetus parts to sell...
Most of the money they generate is not from abortion procedures but from selling the aborted fetuses.
 

Genipher

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I'm not from Texas, but I wouldn't set foot in Portland anyway.
We don't travel to Portland anymore. Hunkering down on the coast where it's safer...for now, anyway. Might have to reevaluate living in Oregon in a year or two. Sad because it's a beautiful state...politics have made it hard to want to live here. 😢
 

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JohnDB

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It'll be overturned. It's patently unconstitutional. And it's illegal to blanket "deputize" citizens to violate citizens Constitutional rights.
SCOTUS has rejected hearing the case...

Meaning that they consider Roe v Wade to be an infringement of State's rights.

Just like the Federal Government can't mandate masks but individual states can....or that the Federal government can't demand quarantines but individual states can....this is what is the law.

So...Texas is allowed...but travelling to another state for an abortion is a common practice too.
 

GaryA

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We don't travel to Portland anymore. Hunkering down on the coast where it's safer...for now, anyway. Might have to reevaluate living in Oregon in a year or two. Sad because it's a beautiful state...politics have made it hard to want to live here. 😢
The answer is simple - move to Texas! (y)

haha

:)
 

Icedaisey

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SCOTUS has rejected hearing the case...

Meaning that they consider Roe v Wade to be an infringement of State's rights.
That's a misrepresentation of SCOTUS in this matter.

This SCOTUS cannot reverse itself in the 1973 decision that was grounded in the case law related to Griswold v. Connecticut, or the 4th amendment.
 

JohnDB

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That's a misrepresentation of SCOTUS in this matter.

This SCOTUS cannot reverse itself in the 1973 decision that was grounded in the case law related to Griswold v. Connecticut, or the 4th amendment.
Yes it can...it has done so many times in the past. It can certainly do so again in the future.
 

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Good news for a change. I'm sick and tired of hearing about a woman's right to murder a helpless infant. How pathetic.
 

JohnDB

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There probably is forming now a group of pro abortion people to do their best to circumvent the law.... calling themselves an underground railroad. (Just rumors I'm hearing)

If it's true, they will find that Texas justice is swift and almost merciless.

And of course these pro abortion people are wishing for something different...but they can move to another state of they really wanted to...but that's not what they want...they desire to force the minority's morals on the majority and have not just acquiesce and tolerance but idolization and endorsement.

Which is sick IMHO.
 

Icedaisey

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Yes it can...it has done so many times in the past. It can certainly do so again in the future.
The doctrine, or rule, of Stare Decisis insures it isn't as easy as you impart.
And the pro-choice people always have a full Democrat majority Congress to rely on when SCOTUS stood down on this issue.
 

Icedaisey

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The answer is simple - move to Texas! (y)

haha

:)
Yeah, just not in any of the border towns. You think Oregon politics are hard to live with. Texas is the illegal's pipeline. One of the reason the Castle Doctrine was made law years ago.
 

JohnDB

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The doctrine, or rule, of Stare Decisis insures it isn't as easy as you impart.
And the pro-choice people always have a full Democrat majority Congress to rely on when SCOTUS stood down on this issue.
So you think that the constitution is about usurping state's rights? It doesn't...the constitution is all about limiting the Federal Government's power over the states. Even SCOTUS has no rights over the states in certain areas which is precisely why they are pulling back from Roe V Wade.

Congress doesn't have the power to do so either...nor the willpower to have a supermajority to begin the process of a constitutional convention.
 

Icedaisey

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So you think that the constitution is about usurping state's rights? It doesn't...the constitution is all about limiting the Federal Government's power over the states. Even SCOTUS has no rights over the states in certain areas which is precisely why they are pulling back from Roe V Wade.

Congress doesn't have the power to do so either...nor the willpower to have a supermajority to begin the process of a constitutional convention.
Wrong post. I didn't say what you're responding with there.
 
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Pretty solid constitution and system that protects staterights. It is strange that it has taken tens of millions of antiabortion people 50 years to figure this out.
 

JohnDB

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Pretty solid constitution and system that protects staterights. It is strange that it has taken tens of millions of antiabortion people 50 years to figure this out.
They have known that the previous decision infringed upon States Rights...but just didn't have enough of a majority to do anything about it.

That's why the recent decisions about homosexual marriages and now abortion.

This court is all about states rights. So we shall see what happens but it's a breath of fresh air.