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I think what I will do is start repeating everytime he does what I have accused him of how is that?No. He's just trolling you. Ignore him.
I think what I will do is start repeating everytime he does what I have accused him of how is that?No. He's just trolling you. Ignore him.
I have been here for multiple years I have seen people get banned for promoting their own person web page. I could care less if you believe what I saw or notIf you can't/don't show me the CC site rule to back up your accusation very soon, I will be forced to consider you to be very dishonest and proud - a person who is willing to "make stuff up" and "make threats" in an attempt to intimidate another CC member and tarnish their reputation.
You will not intimidate me - don't even try.
So - to borrow from a well-known phrase:
"Put up or shut up!"
If you can't/don't show me the CC site rule to back up your accusation very soon, I will be forced to consider you to be very dishonest and proud - a person who is willing to "make stuff up" and "make threats" in an attempt to intimidate another CC member and tarnish their reputation.
You will not intimidate me - don't even try.
So - to borrow from a well-known phrase:
"Put up or shut up!"
If you can't/don't show me the CC site rule to back up your accusation very soon, I will be forced to consider you to be very dishonest and proud - a person who is willing to "make stuff up" and "make threats" in an attempt to intimidate another CC member and tarnish their reputation.
You will not intimidate me - don't even try.
So - to borrow from a well-known phrase:
"Put up or shut up!"
My focus and intent is always on the [relevant] 'study' pages. It's not about the website - it's about the information on the 'study' pages.To be fair, I confirm. Twas part of a pinned thread on this website during its previous design years ago. Was a bunch of different rules listed. The point of the rule was to not spam-advertise and lead traffic away ("hey! check out my site folks!"), contributing nothing to the forum.
But since the change in design, there have been members - including me - who have posted links to their work (and other sites), but only for reference during relevant exchanges here (like you've done in this thread).
I guess if a moderator chimes in they could clarify...but I don't think you've done anything near the level of spam-advertise.
What did they see?It is okay to examine the detail and reason a conclusion about it; however, don't forget the "bigger picture"...
Verses 16-20 comprise the instructions that the Jew-Christians were to follow according to the recognition of what is being illustrated in verse 15.
'When ye therefore shall see...'
[then]
'follow these instructions'
(And don't waste any time doing it.)
There was a three-year seige before the Romans took the city and destroyed the temple.
The Jew-Christians followed the instructions before/as the seige began.
What did they 'see' - before/as the seige began - three years before the temple was ever touched or destroyed - that they instantly recognized as being what was illustrated in verse 15?
hint:
( whoso readeth, let him understand: )
They saw what was described in Luke 21:20.The "critical" thing being that 'Jerusalem compassed with armies' is the "sign" that the Jew-Christians 'saw' - that they immediately understood was the prophetic moment that they needed to "get out of Dodge NOW"...
That is not what the passage is talking about. There must be everlasting righteousness on earth, and that is far from the case. See Romans 8.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature [creation] waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature [creation] was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature [creation] itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
The redemption of our body is the transformation and perfection of the saints at the Resurrection/Rapture. But the perfection of creation must wait until the New Heavens and the New Earth are established.
Your answering yourself is worse than my spelling.........What did they see?
They saw what was described in Luke 21:20.
Of course, that's why the 70th week had to be put off, Israel had to be seen by God as Dead Men's Bones, thus the 70 weeks judgment was all about Israel as a Nation. Thus if they had repented in 30ish AD, then in 70 AD Jesus would have saved them from Rome (the European Beast). But since they didn't, as God foreknew, their mantle was given until the Gentile until the Gentile's time was/is fulfilled (as being God's chosen vessel to take the Gospel unto the world). Thus after this ENDS (Rapture), Israel is then back on the clock, so if you take the Church Age out of ALL History, notice the Roman (E.U.) Beast looks (will look, I'll explain below) EXACTLY the same, and thus it will be the Fourth Beast (Rome or the E.U.) against Israel in both cases. Ths the Four Beasts AND the Statue of Dan. 2 all fit perfectly when you take out the Church Age and only count Israel as a Nation whilst they are in the land. Thus the Mortal Wound of the figurative 7 Headed Beast was Rome, whom the Church turned from Beast to a conveyor belt of the Gospel. The Gates of hell could not overcome the Church because we have the Holy Spirit in us.each prophecy doesn’t exist in a vacuum
“And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”
Daniel 9:26-27 KJV
it was all based on whether they would respond to the messiah


If you read carefully you know Elijah is sent at the very END TIMES, we see in Luke 1 that John is not Elijah, but came in the POWER of Elijah, Jesus uses an idiom so to speak, he's saying that we should love John the Baptist, for he did the exact same thing that Elijah will do but the people wouldn't hear him. Thus he was if you can receive it, he was Elijah, but Jesus is speaking about John accomplishing his mission, he did that, just as Elijah will, but they would not repent. REMEMBER, God foreknows all things, if Israel would have repented at this time, Elijah would have shown up, God can't lie.but if you follow prophecy beyond a single one and look at it as a whole , you find that it was conditional when the messiah came like thier covenant it could be a blessing for Israel or a curse for all the world
It was all based on how they reacted to the messiah and John the Baptist who came before him
“Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.”
Malachi 4:5-6 KJV
impressive argumenting).
This was John, we all know that he was born of a woman, Elijah has already been born he can't be born again. God, as I stated, would have sent Jesus back in 70 AD to save Israel from the Fourth Beast, but the 70th-week Prophecy says they MUST REPENT FIRST, so God foreknowing all things couldn't send Elijah, instead he sent John, and if Israel had of repented, Elijah would have shown up to make Jesus' path straight, instead he has to now turn up 2000 some odd years later BEFORE the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord as Malachi 4:5-6 says. God took the mantle of taking the Gospel unto the world from the Jewish people and gave it to the Gentiles for nigh 2000 years.impressive argument
“So, he is not Elijah, Jesus was trying to make a POINT, notice he said no greater man has ever lived. He was just making sure everyone knew John”
“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts.”
Malachi 3:1
that’s John who appeared before Jesus preaching the baptism of repentance to prepare them for Jesus and his gospel
“The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.”
Isaiah 40:3, 5 KJV
And that’s John who would appear before Jesus here’s the biblical proof
“As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.”
Mark 1:2-4 KJV
This was John, we all know that he was born of a woman, Elijah has already been born he can't be born again. God, as I stated, would have sent Jesus back in 70 AD to save Israel from the Fourth Beast, but the 70th-week Prophecy says they MUST REPENT FIRST, so God foreknowing all things couldn't send Elijah, instead he sent John, and if Israel had of repented, Elijah would have shown up to make Jesus' path straight, instead he has to now turn up 2000 some odd years later BEFORE the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord as Malachi 4:5-6 says. God took the mantle of taking the Gospel unto the world from the Jewish people and gave it to the Gentiles for nigh 2000 years.
So Malachi 4:5 is NOT John, the Day of the Lord is KNOWN as a FACT to be G0d's Wrath which last fr 1260 days. You are conflating the two because God delayed His plans because of an UNREPENTANT Israel.
NO, if Israel had of repented God would have sent Jess to save them from the Fourth Beast Rome in 70 AD. That's why the 70 AD sacking of Jerusalem is so much like the end time sacking of Jerusalem. Of course, when people don't grasp what's actually going on they start making errors (others do this at least), and they thus don't understand that the 70th-week prophecy is a 7 x 7 or 49-year prophecy, a 62 x 7 or 434-year prophecy and a 1 x 7 or 7-year prophecy.no not at all God didn’t delay anything he fulfilled the curse rather than blessing that’s what he told them from the start
that’s not conflation it’s just the truth this was always true
“I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:”
Deuteronomy 30:19 KJV
thier last chance WAS the messiah he sent to them and they accused him of blasphemy and beat and mocked and spit on him
The abomination in Gods sit by was murder of the one sent to restore them 67-70 ad was the end of earths Jerusalem and the covenant they broke but it set forth the curse we need to be saved from.
but it isn’t important for you to accept what I said I was just trying to point out that the messiah was sent to save them and they rejected him and killed him and lost the kingdom but you don’t want to hear that even from Jesus
You can't just post some scriptures (which I and others also know, then leave off the scriptures where the Jews REPENT and come unto Christ by FAITH ALONE, during the 70th week.Ot seems Like they killed Gods son who was the one he sent to restore them to
Me but maybe o can’t crack the code either way I appreciate the conversation and I’ll leave you to continue discussing the 70 week thing
69 of the 70 have been accomplished, the temple, the priesthood and the sacrifice [for the Jews] have been cut off. When we see the temple being rebuilt we will know we are in the 70th week.
This will mark the beginning of the Great Tribulation and the man of sin will be revealed.
If you read carefully you know Elijah is sent at the very END TIMES, we see in Luke 1 that John is not Elijah, but came in the POWER of Elijah, Jesus uses an idiom so to speak, he's saying that we should love John the Baptist, for he did the exact same thing that Elijah will do but the people wouldn't hear him.
NO, if Israel had of repented God would have sent Jess to save them from the Fourth Beast Rome in 70 AD. That's why the 70 AD sacking of Jerusalem is so much like the end time sacking of Jerusalem. Of course, when people don't grasp what's actually going on they start making errors (others do this at least), and they thus don't understand that the 70th-week prophecy is a 7 x 7 or 49-year prophecy, a 62 x 7 or 434-year prophecy and a 1 x 7 or 7-year prophecy.
It may be "YOUR TRUTH" but its, not God's truth sir. Israel rejected Jesus, they did the same thing when being delivered from Babylon, the moaned and complained, many loved Babylon and wanted to stay, thus when Daniel was reading the book of Jeremiah in Daniel chapter 9, Gabriel came unto him and said your people will be delivered as promised after 70 years, but let it be known they still haven't repented and thus as the Laws of Leviticus (of course I am paraphrasing and EXPLAINING why Israel for the 70 x 7 Judgment fro God,nit giving you exactly what Gabriel told Daniel) say, I am timing your punishment x 7, thus your 70 year Judgment is not 70 x 7 or 490 years. Then later on Gabriel explains it is a three-pronged prophecy, 7 x 7 = 49 years (The WALL), 7 x 62 = 434 years (Jesus' death) and we still await the 1 x 7 or 7-year prophecy to be fulfilled ( 70-week tribulation period).
Wow, you are anti-Israel it seems, "THEIR LAST CHANCE" if you really mean that shows you do not understand scriptures brother. I can show you where 1/3 of the Jews repent just before the coming Day of the Lord (DOTL). Go read Zechariah 13:8-9, 1/3 of the Jews REPENT and 2/3 will be CUT OFF (die) and the very next verse (Zechariah 14:1 says the Day of the Lord has come or comes and here's what will happen at that time (just after the Jews repent), and it shows Israel getting ravaged and sacked again, and then 3.5 years later, in verses 3-4 and ON FURTHER, it shows Jesus touching down and defeating te Anti-Chr9st and all his evil minions.
Israel's last chance will fulfill the 70th-week Prophecy which says Israel WILL REPENT before the 70th-week prophecy comes to pass. The 70th week's troubles are designed to make them turn to Jesus/God again. What you or I think doesn't matter if it disagrees with the scriptures brother. And Jews (who are ALL Israel, they are only called Jews because they all lived in Judah, just like Italians, the Irish and Nigerians will be called New Yorkers or Americans after they have lived in America/New York for so long, and the SWITCH happened in 712 BC when the Northern Kingdoms were toted off, of course, the other 10 tribes all had SEED living in Jerusalem, so they were never lost, that just people not being very smart, to be honest, God says he has saved Himself 7000 and 7 always means COMPLETENESS especially when times by 10 which also means completeness. So, that's God saying the 10 tribes were never lost, he just created ONE STICK out of TWO STICKS as the Prophecy of the 2 Sticks will become 1 Stick in Ezekiel 37. Thus the Jews are AL Israel as we speak.
We all killed Jesus. The Jews were the Spring Harvest we are the Summer Harvest. Israel birthed the SEED, we spread the Gospel because Israel's mantel was taken away because of their rek=jection of Christ, but as Paul says in Rom. 11 ALL Israel will be saved, which doesn't mean every Jew, it means Israel as a Nation will Repent (1/3 do) and thus Israel will be PRESERVED, just like God promised Abraham, he will have an everlasting seed on this earth. Amen, God can not lie.
You can't just post some scriptures (which I and others also know, then leave off the scriptures where the Jews REPENT and come unto Christ by FAITH ALONE, during the 70th week.
There is no "Gap Theory" my friend, God gave a "LIFESPAN of Israel" unto them and the judgment He set against them.I agree that an end-time Elijah must still come because the King must be heralded each time He's on His way...But when much of the Christian world sees this man they'll believe he's the antichrist.
The countries in your modern map aren't *reforming* the roman empire. They are proof that we've already been living in the "iron kingdom mixed with clay". The gap theory throws the timing of all of these things off, and so the eschatological timeline is off by approx. 2000 years.