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Hawaii: Woman Faces $5,000 Fine, One Year in Jail for Fake Vaccination Card
https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-o...e-one-year-in-jail-for-fake-vaccination-card/
An Illinois woman faces up to one year in jail as well as a $5,000 fine for flashing a counterfeit vaccination card while visiting Hawaii.
On Sunday, 24-year-old Chloe Mrozak was arrested at Oahu’s Daniel K. Inouye International Airport after she presented a forged vaccination card to security.
You might get away with presenting a forged vaccination card at a bar, restaurant, movie theater etc.. but not at an airport! Security will investigate you. What was she thinking? She even misspelled 'Moderna' on her card.
not helping themselves at all, but to be expected.
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I've been warned, got more important things to focus on right now, we have 3 weeks till this meteor shower hits and getting the word out on that is more important.
So you actually believe in 30 days the U.S. will be destroyed by meteors? And that the elites know it? So many questions could be asked you about this. So why did all the elites work so hard to get Trump ousted? Why would it have mattered? And why even bother with the vaccine program then? Also if this doesn't happen in 30 days.....what will be your response? And seeing you believe this what are you doing about it? Seems to me if you really believe this you'd be leaving the country quick right?
Well that's quite a belief you have. First let's go with your assumption those wars spoken of in scripture is even in the time frame you're saying. I don't know what the U.S. would be doing. Maybe they were doing what they were in WW2 for the first few years....not getting involved. Why couldn't you see this as a possibility even when that's already happened in history. Even John Adams one of the Founding Fathers and 2nd U.S. President didn't want to get involved in a war between France and England so there's two times that's happened. So your insistence that the U.S. must be destroyed doesn't hold water just because they're not there. And what happened to China? (assuming again even your timeline of events is so) I don't know....maybe they're the nation from the east which troubles the AntiChrist as found in Dan 11:44. So it seems they possibly would still exist.
I'd like to check back with you at the end of Sept not too far off and see what you then believe. I suppose I can be thankful I'm in Canada then. If it's only the U.S. and China destroyed by meteors I'm sure they'll respect the borders.
I have posted everything in my blog. However, Jeffrey McGaha and God's Roadmap to the End on Youtube have several videos that lay out all the evidence from the last twenty years.
You can also search for videos on two suns in Youtube and you will see newscasts from China, India, Middle East, UK and US showing clips of this over the last 4 years.
I just posted an exposition of Ezekiel 33 that answers this very question. This is the strategy of the elites, they think they'll walk out of their shelters a few months later and the whole world will belong to them and their reign and empire will begin at that point. You should see what the Lord has to say about that.No I have my primary plan of salvation which is to be raptured. My contingency plan is to preach the gospel during the tribulation, get arrested and then have my head chopped off because I refuse to get the mark of the beast.
A lot of questions, not going to even attempt to answer them here, especially since all or at least the vast majority of them have been answered in my blog.
However, if you post questions in the blog that would be an appropriate place to respond to them and I will.
If I am correct then you won't be able to check back at the end of September, there is going to be a two week blackout as all communications will be down. So how about this, if the Tribulation has not begun by October 9th, check back then.
Ezekiel 33:30 And as for thee, son of man, the children of thy people talk of thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from Jehovah. 31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but do them not; for with their mouth they show much love, but their heart goeth after their gain. 32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument; for they hear thy words, but they do them not. 33 And when this cometh to pass (behold, it cometh), then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.
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No I have my primary plan of salvation which is to be raptured. My contingency plan is to preach the gospel during the tribulation, get arrested and then have my head chopped off because I refuse to get the mark of the beast.
guess you won't have to resign from your teaching job then
sorry...but I mean you kinda ask for it
see you in October
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[QUOTE
Ezekiel 33:30 And as for thee, son of man, the children of thy people talk of thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from Jehovah. 31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but do them not; for with their mouth they show much love, but their heart goeth after their gain. 32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument; for they hear thy words, but they do them not. 33 And when this cometh to pass (behold, it cometh), then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.[/QUOTE]
so I guess you are calling yourself a prophet then?
why do people get confused over this sort of thing...
Ezekiel 33:30 And as for thee, son of man, the children of thy people talk of thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from Jehovah. 31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but do them not; for with their mouth they show much love, but their heart goeth after their gain. 32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument; for they hear thy words, but they do them not. 33 And when this cometh to pass (behold, it cometh), then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.[/QUOTE]
so I guess you are calling yourself a prophet then?
why do people get confused over this sort of thing...
Not the way I see it. If you are one with the Holy Spirit who is restraining the spirit of antichrist then you must act. However, my plan is to submit the paperwork on the 24th which is prior to the 27th, their deadline. Since this may all play out prior to that in one sense you are right. However, it is a three week process so I have to start this week to be ready by the 24th.
so I guess you are calling yourself a prophet then?
why do people get confused over this sort of thing...[/QUOTE]
I prefer the term servant of the Lord or slave of the Lord. Offscouring is another term of endearment. Some like to think of themselves as the waiter who serves the food at the appropriate time, I'm more the busboy who clears the plates and wipes the garbage off.
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the Perseids are in September among other showers
happens every year
I just do not go for all this Bible codes, newly saved people on youtube who post and say it's God speaking through them and say outrageous things like Covid is caused by 5G and look at photos of space and do not understand a pixalated area and assume it is some catastrophic hidden thing on collusion with earth
they walk among us
happens every year
I just do not go for all this Bible codes, newly saved people on youtube who post and say it's God speaking through them and say outrageous things like Covid is caused by 5G and look at photos of space and do not understand a pixalated area and assume it is some catastrophic hidden thing on collusion with earth
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oh I know how you see it. so what you are actually saying, is if you are not one with the Holy Spirit, you will be badly surprised
do you have ANY idea how often this type of thing occurs on the net?
always the end of the world and Christians being 'raptured' so get ready
over and over and over again and designed to just put people off so that when the real thing happens, everyone will shrug and just go about their business
you can quote me
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except Ezekiel didn't have Bible codes to go to for info
I'm not making fun. I just wonder how you will feel or think when it all blows over and your scenario does not happen
this is not the appropriate time and an actual prophet would not have their noggin stuck in Bible codes and all the nutters on the net
anyway, I have stuff to do, I fixed your quote cause it was mixed up with what I said
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I looked this up after I posted the above. you see, it isn't just someone in the forum here, this is widely known and news
Is The Apocalypse Coming? No, It Isn't!
The Sign, a documentary directed, shot and produced by Josh Turnbow and Robert Dvoran and set to air Thursday, addresses whether the end of days is coming this month, as some biblical literalists predict.
The "sign" in the title refers to an alignment in the sky peaking on Sept. 23, whereby Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter will be around the constellations of Virgo and Leo, together with the sun and moon. Sept. 23 is when Jupiter leaves Virgo after being there for a while.
According to Revelation 12, some say, this is when the end comes, after much turmoil and destruction:
According to the biblical literalists interviewed in The Sign, airing Sept. 14 at 8 p.m. ET/PT, the "son" leaving the birth canal is Jupiter leaving Virgo. The red dragon is associated by some literalists with Planet X, a planet (wrongly) conjectured to orbit the sun about 90 times more distant than Earth, which, the literalists say, comes every so often to create havoc.
To make a long story short, many biblical literalists affirm with utmost conviction in the documentary that Sept. 23 is it — the day the end comes as prophesied in Revelation. (A preview of the film can be watched here.)
Fortunately, the documentary doesn't only present this version of the story. Michael Shermer, author and editor of Skeptic magazine is there, too, to make sense of the nonsense. And so are Ed Krupp, director of the Griffith Observatory, and Konstantin Batygin, an assistant professor of astronomy at Caltech. Together, they explain the scientific arguments against such fears, including the fact that there is no Planet X. Any such planet, given its elongated orbit and large mass, would have caused major instabilities in the solar system, including ejecting the Earth from its place around the sun. Given that Earth has been orbiting the sun for 4.5 billion years, its orbit is pretty stable so far. There is no such planet.
Watching the documentary, what I find most striking is the strength of the literalists' conviction. What will they say on Sept. 23 when the world remains where it is? Surely, as Shermer mentions, Trump may do something, or North Korea. But isn't it always the case that there will be turmoil somewhere in the world — and this turmoil may be interpreted as a sign from a biblical prophesy? Hasn't this happened over and over, prophecy of the end after prophecy being debunked by the boring continuity of life as we know it?
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Is The Apocalypse Coming? No, It Isn't!
The Sign, a documentary directed, shot and produced by Josh Turnbow and Robert Dvoran and set to air Thursday, addresses whether the end of days is coming this month, as some biblical literalists predict.
The "sign" in the title refers to an alignment in the sky peaking on Sept. 23, whereby Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter will be around the constellations of Virgo and Leo, together with the sun and moon. Sept. 23 is when Jupiter leaves Virgo after being there for a while.
According to Revelation 12, some say, this is when the end comes, after much turmoil and destruction:
"A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. She gave birth to a son, a male child, who "will rule all the nations with an iron scepter." And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.
According to the biblical literalists interviewed in The Sign, airing Sept. 14 at 8 p.m. ET/PT, the "son" leaving the birth canal is Jupiter leaving Virgo. The red dragon is associated by some literalists with Planet X, a planet (wrongly) conjectured to orbit the sun about 90 times more distant than Earth, which, the literalists say, comes every so often to create havoc.
To make a long story short, many biblical literalists affirm with utmost conviction in the documentary that Sept. 23 is it — the day the end comes as prophesied in Revelation. (A preview of the film can be watched here.)
Fortunately, the documentary doesn't only present this version of the story. Michael Shermer, author and editor of Skeptic magazine is there, too, to make sense of the nonsense. And so are Ed Krupp, director of the Griffith Observatory, and Konstantin Batygin, an assistant professor of astronomy at Caltech. Together, they explain the scientific arguments against such fears, including the fact that there is no Planet X. Any such planet, given its elongated orbit and large mass, would have caused major instabilities in the solar system, including ejecting the Earth from its place around the sun. Given that Earth has been orbiting the sun for 4.5 billion years, its orbit is pretty stable so far. There is no such planet.
Watching the documentary, what I find most striking is the strength of the literalists' conviction. What will they say on Sept. 23 when the world remains where it is? Surely, as Shermer mentions, Trump may do something, or North Korea. But isn't it always the case that there will be turmoil somewhere in the world — and this turmoil may be interpreted as a sign from a biblical prophesy? Hasn't this happened over and over, prophecy of the end after prophecy being debunked by the boring continuity of life as we know it?
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Believers disagree. They argue that it all revolves around Israel and the mounting tensions in the region — and that this is it. Israel's existence, a chronology of dates from its foundation to wars, everything, they say, points to the veracity of the old prophecies. One of them in particular, Michael Rood, has returned to Israel to watch the end unfold. Rood looks like a benevolent rabbi, a biblical patriarch. He is convinced that come Sept. 23 something will happen to the sun, signifying the dragon of the prophecy, although not necessarily Planet X. He is convinced that God will send the sign, and it need not be consistent with science. In his world, there are two coexisting parallel realities, a natural and a supernatural one. Come the end, they will clash in decisive ways.
I watched the documentary in a state of awe. The key question here is what makes people believe in such literal readings in 2017?
In my book The Prophet and the Astronomer: Apocalyptic Science and the End of the World, I explored why apocalyptic ideas often depend on some celestial event and how such ideas have percolated from religion to science. The skies do display unusual alignments and phenomena that have been observed for millennia. Since for believers the skies are often the realm of the gods, the jump from seeing something strange up there to attributing it to some sort of divine message is not a huge one. Indeed, in cultures across the globe we find eclipses, comets, and meteor showers being associated with evil portents. If the skies act crazy, the gods can't be happy. If the gods aren't happy, we will pay for it especially — if you are a Christian — the sinners.
The fear from the skies comes from the awareness of our essential fragility as we face nature's awesome powers. The current hurricane season is an obvious example of this, as is the recent solar eclipse. St. John makes good use of the blackened sun in his Revelation, knowing well that the image conjured terror in his readers. If God controls the heavens and He makes the sun disappear for a few minutes, couldn't He just as easily make it go dark forever?
Shermer, Krupp, and Batygin do their best to dispel any potential danger. Krupp goes as far as chiding the literalists for scaring otherwise nice, good people with such fantastic tales. The documentary explores the potential for an all-out nuclear war starting with Iran bombing Israel or North Korea doing something equally outrageous. Of course, no one can predict what rogue states with nuclear weapons will do. It is meaningful that I am writing these lines on 9-11, a date forever tinged with blood in the U.S. However, even if something awful does happen on Sept. 23, an act of war or of terror, it will be hard to know what came first, the act or the belief that an act on this date would conjure terror on large sectors of the population.
The strength of The Sign is to expose so openly the extent to which literalists will go to justify their beliefs, some using very complex numerology and coincidences as clues. The film ends with someone (I suspect Rood) asking: "Could this be the year? This could be the year."
Unfortunately, any year could be the year. If anything, it's really up to us to collectively make a difference in what we see around us, from social injustice to disease and famine. To instill fear as an agent of change hasn't worked for millennia — and it won't work now.
I watched the documentary in a state of awe. The key question here is what makes people believe in such literal readings in 2017?
In my book The Prophet and the Astronomer: Apocalyptic Science and the End of the World, I explored why apocalyptic ideas often depend on some celestial event and how such ideas have percolated from religion to science. The skies do display unusual alignments and phenomena that have been observed for millennia. Since for believers the skies are often the realm of the gods, the jump from seeing something strange up there to attributing it to some sort of divine message is not a huge one. Indeed, in cultures across the globe we find eclipses, comets, and meteor showers being associated with evil portents. If the skies act crazy, the gods can't be happy. If the gods aren't happy, we will pay for it especially — if you are a Christian — the sinners.
The fear from the skies comes from the awareness of our essential fragility as we face nature's awesome powers. The current hurricane season is an obvious example of this, as is the recent solar eclipse. St. John makes good use of the blackened sun in his Revelation, knowing well that the image conjured terror in his readers. If God controls the heavens and He makes the sun disappear for a few minutes, couldn't He just as easily make it go dark forever?
Shermer, Krupp, and Batygin do their best to dispel any potential danger. Krupp goes as far as chiding the literalists for scaring otherwise nice, good people with such fantastic tales. The documentary explores the potential for an all-out nuclear war starting with Iran bombing Israel or North Korea doing something equally outrageous. Of course, no one can predict what rogue states with nuclear weapons will do. It is meaningful that I am writing these lines on 9-11, a date forever tinged with blood in the U.S. However, even if something awful does happen on Sept. 23, an act of war or of terror, it will be hard to know what came first, the act or the belief that an act on this date would conjure terror on large sectors of the population.
The strength of The Sign is to expose so openly the extent to which literalists will go to justify their beliefs, some using very complex numerology and coincidences as clues. The film ends with someone (I suspect Rood) asking: "Could this be the year? This could be the year."
Unfortunately, any year could be the year. If anything, it's really up to us to collectively make a difference in what we see around us, from social injustice to disease and famine. To instill fear as an agent of change hasn't worked for millennia — and it won't work now.
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