PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.
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OK, assumed since your nick is the swedish word for plane. Then you are not awere of the scandinavian way to go about it, which is faaar away from what is happening in the US. And very far from the rest of the west too, and the rest of the world. European leaders understand that they get more to comply with an ask than force, guidelines over mandates. The segregation I was pointing out was those who are vaccinated and not. A lisence granting some full rights, and others restricted rights to participate in society. That is a slippery slope, think it over, rights suspended now, can be suspended later for other reasons. Beware of overly broad and vague new laws that can be abused later. You might regret being supportive of this later.
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You may not be aware, but you have zero less chance of getting or spreading the virus 🦠 now that you are vaccinated than when you were unvaccinated.
On top of that, the vaccinated are the ones that are allowing the virus to mutate because of the Antibody Dependent Enhancement that is happening in your body.
So if your rationale was to not spread it to your parents, you need to think again.
Why do you think they want the vaccinated to wear masks and distance?
On top of that, the vaccinated are the ones that are allowing the virus to mutate because of the Antibody Dependent Enhancement that is happening in your body.
So if your rationale was to not spread it to your parents, you need to think again.
Why do you think they want the vaccinated to wear masks and distance?
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'This Ends The Debate' - Israeli Study Shows Natural Immunity 13x More Effective Than Vaccines At Stopping Delta
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...immunity-13x-more-effective-vaccines-stopping
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'This Ends The Debate' - Israeli Study Shows Natural Immunity 13x More Effective Than Vaccines At Stopping Delta
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...immunity-13x-more-effective-vaccines-stopping
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This won’t phase the mind numbed Borg injected collective!
BOMBSHELL UK data destroys entire premise for vaccine push
The media can read just as well as me (maybe), but somehow it is left to me to report this.
This is an absolute game-changer.
The UK government just reported the following data, tucked away in their report on variants of concern:
Less than a third of delta variant deaths are in the unvaccinated.
Let me say that another way - two-thirds of Delta deaths in the UK are in the jabbed.
https://chriswaldburger.substack.com/p/bombshell-uk-data-destroys-entire
BOMBSHELL UK data destroys entire premise for vaccine push
The media can read just as well as me (maybe), but somehow it is left to me to report this.
This is an absolute game-changer.
The UK government just reported the following data, tucked away in their report on variants of concern:
Less than a third of delta variant deaths are in the unvaccinated.
Let me say that another way - two-thirds of Delta deaths in the UK are in the jabbed.
https://chriswaldburger.substack.com/p/bombshell-uk-data-destroys-entire
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I fully agree with this research, however, you are still missing a very important piece to the puzzle. I can believe that a totalitarian dictator would do something like force people to take a vaccine they don't need, I can believe a soulless profit oriented Big Pharma company like Pfizer could be for giving everyone a vaccine they don't need to enrich themselves. But you haven't explained why every country on this planet has agreed with this. They cannot all be be influence by Pfizer. I would think that 50% of the world's leaders have above average intelligence to figure this out. Yet they see something that is an existential threat that is so great they have united behind this. Not only so they see this vaccine as being essential to our survival even though it has been proven that when everything is taken into account there is no overall benefit to human health.
I have been sharing in detail on this missing puzzle piece in my blog (summary of bible verses on the rapture). The depth of the evil is absolutely stunning. I now see this is why they moved manufacturing out of the US.
I have been sharing in detail on this missing puzzle piece in my blog (summary of bible verses on the rapture). The depth of the evil is absolutely stunning. I now see this is why they moved manufacturing out of the US.
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what about it? I didn't bring it up, the highly educated person in Ontario brought it up
it was a personal exchange that went south
I don't know why you quoted me...I don't post conspiracy stuff and have actually disagreed with some of it
whatever
it was a personal exchange that went south
I don't know why you quoted me...I don't post conspiracy stuff and have actually disagreed with some of it
whatever
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I'm aware of how Sweden (and other countries) are handling it. However, Sweden is a much smaller country than the U.S. with way less inhabitants. If you want to compare the U.S. then you should compare each state as a whole, because regulations regarding these issues vary from state to state, from county to county and even city to city. Pandemic guidelines in most the U.S. have been looser than at any country that I know of. But again, I'm in the south. I understand other states have it differently. Where I live in the U.S. there are no rights taken away from you whether you're vaccinated or not. And I'm not supportive of any law. I don't think there will be any federal laws regarding this, we have a sovereign and democratic system that hopefully will take care of that. However, yes, just as there are freedoms for not regulating it, there are freedoms from employers and companies to require what they need to required (within certain guidelines) to keep their employees and customers safe.
"There is plenty of reason to believe that the vaxxes may bring with them future devastating and irreversible effects. And every booster jab makes the situation more dire."
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Principles, constitutions, civil liberties and the human rights are set in stone. There are legal processes that put them in place, and there are requirements to revoke them, rules must be followed. You want to change the laws, and make it mandatory that all men are to be chained indoors to the wall, because the people want ladies hour between 9 and 10 on fridays, fine. Just go through the process first. Go through the lawmakers, and have them erase 12 civil liberties, and I will argue on your side if it is the legally sound side.
Alaska and say Montana and some other states, are more like Sweden than California, so that argument do not fly. If you want segregationpasses, restrict it to the states begging for em, the states with the cities LA, NY and Chicago. Let them chain themself and drop some civil liberties, do not push for federal stuff, and do not push for vaccinepassports for other states. Pointless and dumb to do the LA and NY measures in Alaska. It is like pissing in the creek while pretending you are pissing on the campfire to put it out. Before you go away patting yourself on the back, before the forest burns down. Dems push for federal laws being suspended, and do a powergrab of authority from states. And there have been mandates of different kinds as you know, a mandate is a demand, forcing people. There is the civil liberty lost. Beware of the pandoras box you open.
Alaska and say Montana and some other states, are more like Sweden than California, so that argument do not fly. If you want segregationpasses, restrict it to the states begging for em, the states with the cities LA, NY and Chicago. Let them chain themself and drop some civil liberties, do not push for federal stuff, and do not push for vaccinepassports for other states. Pointless and dumb to do the LA and NY measures in Alaska. It is like pissing in the creek while pretending you are pissing on the campfire to put it out. Before you go away patting yourself on the back, before the forest burns down. Dems push for federal laws being suspended, and do a powergrab of authority from states. And there have been mandates of different kinds as you know, a mandate is a demand, forcing people. There is the civil liberty lost. Beware of the pandoras box you open.
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Viruses mutate when they replicate. Errors in the "copying process" are known as mutations (which yield variants). One of the arguments for vaccines is that they [are intended to] limit or reduce the "copying process" or the spreading of the virus.
ADE is when we have the antibodies (from a vaccine) and our body/immune system overreacts to the virus which causes severe symptons, inflammation, etc... ADE has nothing to do with mutations... Viruses run the chance of mutating every time they replicate (copying errors as mentioned previously).
I'm sure I'll get an "x" for this post, but to my knowledge everything I said is true. If I'm mistaken, go ahead and "X" me but correct me as I want to be aware if I am wrong so I don't go out repeating misinformation.
ADE is when we have the antibodies (from a vaccine) and our body/immune system overreacts to the virus which causes severe symptons, inflammation, etc... ADE has nothing to do with mutations... Viruses run the chance of mutating every time they replicate (copying errors as mentioned previously).
I'm sure I'll get an "x" for this post, but to my knowledge everything I said is true. If I'm mistaken, go ahead and "X" me but correct me as I want to be aware if I am wrong so I don't go out repeating misinformation.
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'This Ends The Debate' - Israeli Study Shows Natural Immunity 13x More Effective Than Vaccines At Stopping Delta
Friday, Aug 27, 2021 - 07:39 AM
Dr. Anthony Fauci and the rest of President Biden's COVID advisors have been proven wrong about "the science" of COVID vaccines yet again. After telling Americans that vaccines offer better protection than natural infection, a new study out of Israel suggests the opposite is true: natural infection offers a much better shield against the delta variant than vaccines.
The study was described by Bloomberg as "the largest real-world analysis comparing natural immunity - gained from an earlier infection - to the protection provided by one of the most potent vaccines currently in use." A few days ago, we noted how remarkable it was that the mainstream press was finally giving voice to scientists to criticize President Biden's push to start doling out booster jabs. Well, this study further questions the credibility of relying on vaccines, given that the study showed that the vaccinated were ultimately 13x as likely to be infected as those who were infected previously, and 27x more likely to be symptomatic.
Alex Berenson, a science journalist who has repeatedly questioned the efficacy of vaccines and masks at preventing COVID, touted the study as enough to "end any debate over vaccines v natural immunity."
Here's an excerpt from a report by Science Magazine:
This time, the data leave little doubt that natural infection truly is the better option for protection against the delta variant, despite the fact that the US won't acknowledge the already infected as having antibodies protecting them from the virus.
As the first country to achieve widepsread coverage by the vaccine, Israel is now in an unthinkable situation: daily case numbers have reached new record levels as the delta variant penetrates the vaccines' protection like a hot knife slicing through butter.
Source: Bloomberg
At the very least, the results of the study are good news for patients who have already successfully battled COVID but show the challenge of relying exclusively on immunizations to move past the pandemic.
"This analysis demonstrated that natural immunity affords longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization due to the delta variant," the researchers said.
Unfortunately, the study also showed that any protection is time-limited. Protection offered by natural infection wanes over time, just like the protection afforded by vaccines: The risk of a vaccine-breakthrough delta case was 13x higher than the risk of developing a second infection when the original illness occurred during January or February 2021. That's significantly more than the risk for people who were ill earlier in the outbreak.
What's more, giving a single shot of the vaccine to those who had been previously infected also appeared to boost their protection. Still, the data don't tell us anything about the long-term benefits of booster doses.
This latest data showing the vaccines don't offer anywhere near the 90%+ protection that was originally advertised by the FDA after the emergency authorization. Other studies are finding harmful side effects caused by the mRNA jabs are also more prevalent than previously believed.
Friday, Aug 27, 2021 - 07:39 AM
Dr. Anthony Fauci and the rest of President Biden's COVID advisors have been proven wrong about "the science" of COVID vaccines yet again. After telling Americans that vaccines offer better protection than natural infection, a new study out of Israel suggests the opposite is true: natural infection offers a much better shield against the delta variant than vaccines.
The study was described by Bloomberg as "the largest real-world analysis comparing natural immunity - gained from an earlier infection - to the protection provided by one of the most potent vaccines currently in use." A few days ago, we noted how remarkable it was that the mainstream press was finally giving voice to scientists to criticize President Biden's push to start doling out booster jabs. Well, this study further questions the credibility of relying on vaccines, given that the study showed that the vaccinated were ultimately 13x as likely to be infected as those who were infected previously, and 27x more likely to be symptomatic.
Alex Berenson, a science journalist who has repeatedly questioned the efficacy of vaccines and masks at preventing COVID, touted the study as enough to "end any debate over vaccines v natural immunity."
Here's an excerpt from a report by Science Magazine:
The new analysis relies on the database of Maccabi Healthcare Services, which enrolls about 2.5 million Israelis. The study, led by Tal Patalon and Sivan Gazit at KSM, the system’s research and innovation arm, found in two analyses that people who were vaccinated in January and February were, in June, July, and the first half of August, six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people who were previously infected with the coronavirus. In one analysis, comparing more than 32,000 people in the health system, the risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 was 27 times higher among the vaccinated, and the risk of hospitalization eight times higher.
This time, the data leave little doubt that natural infection truly is the better option for protection against the delta variant, despite the fact that the US won't acknowledge the already infected as having antibodies protecting them from the virus.
As the first country to achieve widepsread coverage by the vaccine, Israel is now in an unthinkable situation: daily case numbers have reached new record levels as the delta variant penetrates the vaccines' protection like a hot knife slicing through butter.
Source: Bloomberg
At the very least, the results of the study are good news for patients who have already successfully battled COVID but show the challenge of relying exclusively on immunizations to move past the pandemic.
"This analysis demonstrated that natural immunity affords longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization due to the delta variant," the researchers said.
Unfortunately, the study also showed that any protection is time-limited. Protection offered by natural infection wanes over time, just like the protection afforded by vaccines: The risk of a vaccine-breakthrough delta case was 13x higher than the risk of developing a second infection when the original illness occurred during January or February 2021. That's significantly more than the risk for people who were ill earlier in the outbreak.
What's more, giving a single shot of the vaccine to those who had been previously infected also appeared to boost their protection. Still, the data don't tell us anything about the long-term benefits of booster doses.
This latest data showing the vaccines don't offer anywhere near the 90%+ protection that was originally advertised by the FDA after the emergency authorization. Other studies are finding harmful side effects caused by the mRNA jabs are also more prevalent than previously believed.
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