Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?
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Psalms 145:20 The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy.
The verb above is in the Hiphil tense:
H8045
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BDB Definition:
1) to destroy, exterminate, be destroyed, be exterminated
1a) (Niphal)
1a1) to be annihilated, be exterminated
1a2) to be destroyed, be devastated
1b) (Hiphil)
1b1) to annihilate, exterminate
1b2) to destroy
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: a primitive root
Same Word by TWOT Number: 2406
The verb above is in the Hiphil tense:
H8045
????
sha^mad
BDB Definition:
1) to destroy, exterminate, be destroyed, be exterminated
1a) (Niphal)
1a1) to be annihilated, be exterminated
1a2) to be destroyed, be devastated
1b) (Hiphil)
1b1) to annihilate, exterminate
1b2) to destroy
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: a primitive root
Same Word by TWOT Number: 2406
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Hell is not mean or cruel. God is a just God and his punishments are just. He isn't cruel or mean. The lake of fire completely burns up and destroys what is thrown into it.
The punishment for sin is death (Romans 6:23), which is also called the second death (Rev 20, 21), and that judgement/decision (also called damnation) is written to be eternal/everlasting (Mark 3:29, Hebrews 6:2).
Psalms 92:7 When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:
Some teach that God will not do as he says.
Psalms 37:16 A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked.
Psalms 37:17 For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.
Psalms 37:18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.
Psalms 37:19 They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.
Psalms 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
Do they perish, consumed away in smoke or do they live forever in torture?? Scripture is clear!
The punishment for sin is death (Romans 6:23), which is also called the second death (Rev 20, 21), and that judgement/decision (also called damnation) is written to be eternal/everlasting (Mark 3:29, Hebrews 6:2).
Psalms 92:7 When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:
Some teach that God will not do as he says.
Psalms 37:16 A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked.
Psalms 37:17 For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.
Psalms 37:18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.
Psalms 37:19 They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.
Psalms 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
Do they perish, consumed away in smoke or do they live forever in torture?? Scripture is clear!
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You're saying that God has predestined who will be saved and who will not be saved. Taking what you said and then cross-referencing it with 2 Peter 3:9, that would either mean God pre-destined people to perish while at the same time not wanting them to perish or that no one perishes at all.
Unfortunately your narrative creates numerous Biblical contradictions. For one, if God doesn't want anyone to perish yet also predestines people to perish then that would mean He wants them to perish. That isn't sound reasoning and contracts 2 Peter 3:9.
For two, the possibility of perishing in hell is real. John 3:16 says that those who do not believe in God's Son will perish.
God desires a particular outcome with humanity, but He is not negating our free will to repent by coming to belief in His Son.
Unfortunately your narrative creates numerous Biblical contradictions. For one, if God doesn't want anyone to perish yet also predestines people to perish then that would mean He wants them to perish. That isn't sound reasoning and contracts 2 Peter 3:9.
For two, the possibility of perishing in hell is real. John 3:16 says that those who do not believe in God's Son will perish.
God desires a particular outcome with humanity, but He is not negating our free will to repent by coming to belief in His Son.
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I think you misunderstand that passage in 2nd Peter.
It's talking about the second coming, not salvation.
2 Peter 3:1-9––“This is now the second letter that I am writing to you, beloved. In both of them I am stirring up your sincere mind by way of reminder, that you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles, knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. They will say, ‘Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.’ For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly."
Adding this: Psalm 33:11 The counsel of the LORD stands forever, the purposes of His heart to all generations. But the plans of the LORD stand firm forever, the purposes of his heart through all generations. But the LORD’s plans stand firm forever; his intentions can never be shaken.
It's talking about the second coming, not salvation.
2 Peter 3:1-9––“This is now the second letter that I am writing to you, beloved. In both of them I am stirring up your sincere mind by way of reminder, that you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles, knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. They will say, ‘Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.’ For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly."
Adding this: Psalm 33:11 The counsel of the LORD stands forever, the purposes of His heart to all generations. But the plans of the LORD stand firm forever, the purposes of his heart through all generations. But the LORD’s plans stand firm forever; his intentions can never be shaken.
Philippians 2:13for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.
Psalm33:11 The LORD frustrates the plans of the nations; He thwarts the devices of the peoples. 11The counsel of the LORD stands forever, the purposes of His heart to all generations. 12Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, the people He has chosen as His inheritance!
Psalm33:11 The LORD frustrates the plans of the nations; He thwarts the devices of the peoples. 11The counsel of the LORD stands forever, the purposes of His heart to all generations. 12Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, the people He has chosen as His inheritance!
The Hebrew word for “fire” is esh. It is spelled with the Hebrew letters, aleph and sheen. Aleph means an ox and denotes strength. Sheen means teeth and denotes consuming or devouring. Thus, “fire” literally means a strong devourer. Hence, our God is a consuming fire (Deut. 4:24; Heb. 12:29).
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