If smoking ciggerettes was around at the time of Jesus would it have been classed a sin

[Absolutely]

Never. It was founded by Freemasons.

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You are mis- informed.

Its like saying "i see no christians in the settlers or the founders."

Jefferson was quite a bit off,but tried to reach the indians in his round about doctrine, and others were " out there" in their faith.
The first primer book was the bible.
The declaration of independance states;
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"""

Jesus is the creator.

John Adams
SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE; JUDGE; DIPLOMAT; ONE OF TWO SIGNERS
OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS; SECOND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
""The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.1

Without religion, this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company: I mean hell.2

The Christian religion is, above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equity and humanity.3

Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited. . . . What a Eutopia – what a Paradise would this region be!4

I have examined all religions, and the result is that the Bible is the best book in the world.5""
https://wallbuilders.com/founding-fathers-jesus-christianity-bible/

Go to that site. Spend some time there.
You will never fall for the mess that we are not a christian nation again

 

[Absolutely]

Yes, everyone needs Jesus, but few will repent because they love their sin.

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I came to know Jesus through a woman planting a seed in me. I saw Jesus in her. I immediately thought, "i dont know what she has but i want it"
Her presence alone turned me aside

 

[HisKid]

You are mis- informed.

Its like saying "i see no christians in the settlers or the founders."

Jefferson was quite a bit off,but tried to reach the indians in his round about doctrine, and others were " out there" in their faith.
The first primer book was the bible.
The declaration of independance states;
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"""

Jesus is the creator.

John Adams
SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE; JUDGE; DIPLOMAT; ONE OF TWO SIGNERS
OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS; SECOND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
""The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.1

Without religion, this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company: I mean hell.2

The Christian religion is, above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equity and humanity.3

Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited. . . . What a Eutopia – what a Paradise would this region be!4

I have examined all religions, and the result is that the Bible is the best book in the world.5""
https://wallbuilders.com/founding-fathers-jesus-christianity-bible/

Go to that site. Spend some time there.
You will never fall for the mess that we are not a christian nation again

Christianity is not a religion, it is a relationship.

Certainly you have seen depictions of the founding fathers wearing their Freemason aprons and garb. If not, see below.

 

[HisKid]

You are mis- informed.

Its like saying "i see no christians in the settlers or the founders."

Jefferson was quite a bit off,but tried to reach the indians in his round about doctrine, and others were " out there" in their faith.
The first primer book was the bible.
The declaration of independance states;
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"""

Jesus is the creator.

John Adams
SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE; JUDGE; DIPLOMAT; ONE OF TWO SIGNERS
OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS; SECOND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
""The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.1

Without religion, this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company: I mean hell.2

The Christian religion is, above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equity and humanity.3

Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited. . . . What a Eutopia – what a Paradise would this region be!4

I have examined all religions, and the result is that the Bible is the best book in the world.5""
https://wallbuilders.com/founding-fathers-jesus-christianity-bible/

Go to that site. Spend some time there.
You will never fall for the mess that we are not a christian nation again

Do a study into the symbolism in DC. It will open your eyes.

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[tourist]

Yes, everyone needs Jesus, but few will repent because they love their sin.

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Maybe they got a disease.

 

[CS1]

Yes, everyone needs Jesus, but few will repent because they love their sin.

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stop judging

 

[Absolutely]

Do a study into the symbolism in DC. It will open your eyes.

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Christianity always has been a mixture of good and bad.

The fledgling church was full of error.
Men of God are imperfect.

But your entire deal is boggus in that you think the founding is garbage INSPITE OF the SOLID material i posted.
You just ignore it in favor of your bogus predjudice.

And yes i know all about the weird symbols and obolisk mess.

Freemasonry is putrid.

But it was not so bad in the 1600 or 1700's ( maybe....i looked into it 30 years ago).
But keep just leaving out stuff.
That is what you do

 

[Absolutely]

""Christianity is not a religion, it is a relationship.""

What a streatch.

That is cliche'

Nobody has gone fully into the depths of God.
No man.

To think that we are NOT in a relationship would be bizarre, since we have been born again and He LIVES IN US.

That dynamic is in the INDIVIDUAL DYNAMIC....NOT as a nation.
Christianity is BOTH a religion and a relationship.
No entire country has a "relationship, not a religion" component, or banner over the entire population.

It is the FOUNDING DOCUMENTS that address the core of our God fearing founding.

You choose to just ignore it.

 

[HisKid]

Maybe they got a disease.

Says the world, not the Lord.

 

[HisKid]

""Christianity is not a religion, it is a relationship.""

What a streatch.

That is cliche'

Nobody has gone fully into the depths of God.
No man.

To think that we are NOT in a relationship would be bizarre, since we have been born again and He LIVES IN US.

That dynamic is in the INDIVIDUAL DYNAMIC....NOT as a nation.
Christianity is BOTH a religion and a relationship.
No entire country has a "relationship, not a religion" component, or banner over the entire population.

It is the FOUNDING DOCUMENTS that address the core of our God fearing founding.

You choose to just ignore it.

Christianity has never been and will never be a religion.

This nation was founded by Freemasons. You can deny if you wish, but the truth is right there if you wish to know it.

Again, do a study into the symbolism in DC. It will open your eyes.


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[HisKid]

Christianity always has been a mixture of good and bad.

The fledgling church was full of error.
Men of God are imperfect.

But your entire deal is boggus in that you think the founding is garbage INSPITE OF the SOLID material i posted.
You just ignore it in favor of your bogus predjudice.

And yes i know all about the weird symbols and obolisk mess.

Freemasonry is putrid.

But it was not so bad in the 1600 or 1700's ( maybe....i looked into it 30 years ago).
But keep just leaving out stuff.
That is what you do

Agree, Freemason is putrid. The founding fathers were Freemasons, as were/are many Presidents since G. Washington.

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[tourist]

Says the world, not the Lord.

I believe that the Great Physician is capable of curing a diseased sinful condition.

 

[HisKid]

I believe that the Great Physician is capable of curing a diseased sinful condition.

Sin is not a disease, it is sin. The world calls it a disease because the world lies.

 

[HisKid]

""Christianity is not a religion, it is a relationship.""

What a streatch.

That is cliche'

Nobody has gone fully into the depths of God.
No man.

To think that we are NOT in a relationship would be bizarre, since we have been born again and He LIVES IN US.

That dynamic is in the INDIVIDUAL DYNAMIC....NOT as a nation.
Christianity is BOTH a religion and a relationship.
No entire country has a "relationship, not a religion" component, or banner over the entire population.

It is the FOUNDING DOCUMENTS that address the core of our God fearing founding.

You choose to just ignore it.

Christianity is a state of being. It has nothing to do with religion at all.

Christians don't wear Freemason aprons and garb. Freemasons do.


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[HisKid]

""Christianity is not a religion, it is a relationship.""

What a streatch.

That is cliche'

Nobody has gone fully into the depths of God.
No man.

To think that we are NOT in a relationship would be bizarre, since we have been born again and He LIVES IN US.

That dynamic is in the INDIVIDUAL DYNAMIC....NOT as a nation.
Christianity is BOTH a religion and a relationship.
No entire country has a "relationship, not a religion" component, or banner over the entire population.

It is the FOUNDING DOCUMENTS that address the core of our God fearing founding.

You choose to just ignore it.

 

[HisKid]

""Christianity is not a religion, it is a relationship.""

What a streatch.

That is cliche'

Nobody has gone fully into the depths of God.
No man.

To think that we are NOT in a relationship would be bizarre, since we have been born again and He LIVES IN US.

That dynamic is in the INDIVIDUAL DYNAMIC....NOT as a nation.
Christianity is BOTH a religion and a relationship.
No entire country has a "relationship, not a religion" component, or banner over the entire population.

It is the FOUNDING DOCUMENTS that address the core of our God fearing founding.

You choose to just ignore it.

You can even visit the George Washington Masonic National Memorial. It's just a click away below.

https://gwmemorial.org/

Enjoy!

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[tourist]

Sin is not a disease, it is sin. The world calls it a disease because the world lies.

If sin is not a disease then sin is not a sickness. This verse seems to indicate otherwise.

Mark 2:17
When Jesus heard it, He said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”

The world calls sin a disease as a means to deflect blame, mitigate, or minimize a sinful condition. Sickness is indicative of disease, whether physical, spiritual or both.

 

[HisKid]

If sin is not a disease then sin is not a sickness. This verse seems to indicate otherwise.

Mark 2:17
When Jesus heard it, He said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”

The world calls sin a disease as a means to deflect blame, mitigate, or minimize a sinful condition. Sickness is indicative of disease, rather physical or spiritual.

I agree that the world calls sin a disease as a means to deflect blame, so let's not follow the world's example.

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[tourist]

I agree that the world calls sin a disease as a means to deflect blame, so let's not follow the world's example.

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Exactly, We are called by God to become holy. Holy means to be separate. We are in the world but must not be part of the world in regards to immoral depravity.

 

[HisKid]

Exactly, We are called by God to become holy. Holy means to be separate. We are in the world but must not be part of the world in regards to immoral depravity.

Agree. We are in the world but not of the world and we call sin, sin.

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