PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

[DavidTree]

By far the best scholar and tutor on this topic is a poster by the name of TheDivineWatermark.

Please do a search for his posts on this topic. Honestly he is the finest scholar on Christian chat.
I learned a very great deal from this poster a fact of which I am immensely grateful.

Thank You, and i have the $1,000 is you want to try on your own.

 

[cv5]

Thank You, and i have the $1,000 is you want to try on your own.

It's okay man I think you should give the money to TheDivineWatermark. He is the one who deserves it.

 

[gb9]

Respectfully, are youa M.D.?

respectfully, when you have people tell you that they got the first shot, felt mostly fine, took the second shot, and felt bad or got cold and flu like systems for a day , sometimes several says, do you really need a doctor to tell you what happened??

 

[DavidTree]

It's okay man I think you should give the money to TheDivineWatermark. He is the one who deserves it.

Give my money??? For what?
He has to come on here and prove it - no one has been able so far. Most, like yourself, shy away.
I am looking for men of courage who want to meet the challenge and declare the Truth.
The Rules have been laid down by the Lord Himself - Do not add to My Words or take away.........
PEACE

 

[Genipher]

respectfully, when you have people tell you that they got the first shot, felt mostly fine, took the second shot, and felt bad or got cold and flu like systems for a day , sometimes several says, do you really need a doctor to tell you what happened??

I wonder how they'll feel when they take the booster?

 

[flygplan]

Why does anybody give someone who has for his avatar the picture of a TV personality who's character is vicious murderer who leads a group of people into doing the same and also uses a tagline that denotes he is a follower of that philosophy?

You take life way too seriously if that bothers you.

 

[iamsoandso]

By far the best scholar and tutor on this topic is a poster by the name of TheDivineWatermark.

Please do a search for his posts on this topic. Honestly he is the finest scholar on Christian chat.
I learned a very great deal from this poster a fact of which I am immensely grateful.

He hasn't been online for a while,,,hope all is well...

 

[cv5]

Give my money??? For what?
He has to come on here and prove it - no one has been able so far. Most, like yourself, shy away.
I am looking for men of courage who want to meet the challenge and declare the Truth.
The Rules have been laid down by the Lord Himself - Do not add to My Words or take away.........
PEACE

David I have started multiple threads on the pretrib rapture. Go ahead and check them out.

But most importantly do a search for TheDivineWatermark. Dig in help yourself. As for courage and proving it, TDW got it done and done.

 

[DavidTree]

David I have started multiple threads on the pretrib rapture. Go ahead and check them out.

But most importantly do a search for TheDivineWatermark. Dig in help yourself. As for courage and proving it, TDW got it done and done.

Dear Brother, I have heard it all on this subject and studied for myself before the Lord.

If pre-trib were true the Word Himself would of declared it - but He did not. The Lord Jesus Christ instructed His Apostles (John, Paul, Peter) to write the accurate account of His Return and what will take place.
In fact proud men(not speaking of you) have corrupted His teaching on His Return for Us, His Bride = The Resurrection and Rapture of those who remain at His Coming.
I do not fear the reproach of men and their religious beliefs - Fear God and do not add or take away from His Word.

No one will accept the challenge and abide in Scripture alone because they know the Word does not declare it as they wish.

If you are confident that the Word proves pre-trib, then you are welcome to the challenge with His commandment(s) as Overseer.

PEACE to ALL who call upon the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ -Amen

 

[Aidan1]

YES, knowing God is personal - He initiates the Love relationship, He appoints the time of our New Birth, He Anoints His Children, He sends them forth with His Holy Spirit, He sends His angels to minister to them, They Testify of His Faithfulness.............
and He gives them NEW Glorified Immortal Bodies made in 'OUR' Likeness according to 'OUR' Image.

Do you wish to continue as a 'mocker' or a Refresher?

It seems to me that you just ignore what I have written.
I am a mocker, because I am dont agree with the anti vacc Party, which giving unproofed claimes?
It is very questionable to me that the Holy Spirit told you that the vaccine against the Virus is poison and will lead to the mark of the beast.
You believing halftruth claimes of people whose reasons to claim these things are also questionable.

 

[PennEd]

People like our German friend keep saying there’s no proof to our claims that the vaccine is incredibly dangerous, and we keep presenting evidence that it is: This is classic cognitive dissonance.

Excerpt from the study:


Results of the study
COVID‐19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated. Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method, may worsen COVID‐19 disease via antibody‐dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID‐19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur, obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7645850/

 

[shittim]

Thank you PennEd, You always have good info.

 

[gb9]

It seems to me that you just ignore what I have written.
I am a mocker, because I am dont agree with the anti vacc Party, which giving unproofed claimes?
It is very questionable to me that the Holy Spirit told you that the vaccine against the Virus is poison and will lead to the mark of the beast.
You believing halftruth claimes of people whose reasons to claim these things are also questionable.

you have seem a lot of vax side effect stories in the thread over the last few weeks.

have you looked into any of them?

( i think i know the answer, i just want to see if you will say it).

 

[PennEd]

What is very important to understand is that even these percentages are greatly skewed. On May 1st the CDC proclaimed it was no longer going to count Covid positive cases of those that had been fully vaccinated, unless they were hospitalized or very sick.

They WERE going to continue to count unvaccinated regardless of their symptoms.

You may hear from time to time pro vaxxers saying that “breakthrough” cases were very rare. Their ignorance on this point is the reason why.

In Los Angeles, Breakthrough Infections Are Now 30% Of All New Covid Cases Amid Delta Surge

https://deadline.com/2021/08/los-angeles-breakthrough-infections-covid-amount-cases-1234818477/

 

[DavidTree]

It seems to me that you just ignore what I have written.
I am a mocker, because I am dont agree with the anti vacc Party, which giving unproofed claimes?
It is very questionable to me that the Holy Spirit told you that the vaccine against the Virus is poison and will lead to the mark of the beast.
You believing halftruth claimes of people whose reasons to claim these things are also questionable.

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are PRO-LIFE. Let US make man in OUR Image according to OUR Likeness.
We were created to know God, to hear His voice and to walk with Him.
God has Promised to His Children Life = You will show me the path of life; In Your presence is fullness of joy; At Your right hand are pleasures forevermore. Psalm 16: 11

The Holy Spirit has a question for you Aidan1 = How can two walk together unless they agree?

 

[shittim]

"We were created to know God, to hear His voice and to walk with Him."

And give Him first place.

 

[DavidTree]

When you get to the point where you fully comprehend the difference between Israel and the Church....and are able to DISCRIMINATE between the two Biblically in terms of who the text is addressing, THEN you will come around to the pre-trib position. Its inevitable as you mature.

You are not able to back up your words here and DISCRIMINATE from Scripture alone the 'mature' Truth.
Stop leading people astray - man up to God and His Word.
The Moderator(Christ) has established the Rules for our understanding and ministering His Truth:

Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.

SOLA SCRIPTURA - What religious men fear, where idols are crushed to pieces and where God is Glorified.

His Rules Apply: ONLY Scripture: No Conjecture - No Commentaries - No personal belief statements

PEACE to all who Love Truth and put their trust in Christ alone - Amen

 

[cv5]

It seems to me that you just ignore what I have written.
I am a mocker, because I am dont agree with the anti vacc Party, which giving unproofed claimes?
It is very questionable to me that the Holy Spirit told you that the vaccine against the Virus is poison and will lead to the mark of the beast.
You believing halftruth claimes of people whose reasons to claim these things are also questionable.

Aiden.....you think there is no proof. Yes, double-blind peer-reviewed studies are nice to have. But when you don't have that and you are left with experimental mystery jab juice conjured by sinister apothecaries and promoted by slick politcians .....you just gotta go with your gut.

 

[Moses_Young]

When you get to the point where you fully comprehend the difference between Israel and the Church....and are able to DISCRIMINATE between the two Biblically in terms of who the text is addressing, THEN you will come around to the pre-trib position. Its inevitable as you mature.

Maybe. I thought the Church was grafted into Christ with Israel - no Jew or Gentile - so perhaps that's why I believe as I do.

Absolutely correct.

He first returns FOR His Church, NOT to be seen by all men but only for only those who believe and love him (which is precisely what He did post resurrection before He ascended) when we will be caught UP to meet Him in the clouds. Every eye does not see this event...not unbelievers not Israel! Jesus does not does NOT set foot upon the earth and does NOT sit upon His glorious throne.
This is an intimate affair between the Lord Jesus and his Bride. Jesus escorts His Bride to consummate the marriage in the heavenly realm.

Jesus then returns WITH His Church to the EARTH where every eye WILL see Him....every surviving unbeliever every surviving converted tribulation saint believer and all of surviving Israel also. He sets foot on the Mount of Olives and wages devastating war against His enemies.

Two different times two different places and two starkly different events for two different reasons!

I think the above is actually a good description of what I believe. So is that pre-trib rapture, or pre-wrath rapture?

 

[Smoke]

What is very important to understand is that even these percentages are greatly skewed. On May 1st the CDC proclaimed it was no longer going to count Covid positive cases of those that had been fully vaccinated, unless they were hospitalized or very sick.

Fact Check

I didn't hear about the bold and was really surprised if this was true. So I googled (I know people think Google is evil while they continue to use their android phone), and the first site popped up debunking the claim.

THE FACTS: On Tuesday, an Instagram post circulated stating: “The CDC will no longer report covid cases of those who have been vaccinated, only unvaccinated.”

But this claim is not accurate.

COVID-19 is a reportable condition, meaning that by law every positive test must be reported. The National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System requires testing sites and medical facilities to report positive tests to the local health department. They then pass the information to the state health department, which notifies the CDC.

“CDC is not going to stop reporting cases of COVID-19 in any fashion,” says Kristen Nordlund, health communication specialist at the CDC.

However, mild and asymptomatic COVID-19 breakthrough cases, which occur after someone has been fully vaccinated, will no longer be published separately on the CDC’s website.

If this fact checker is wrong, please post a source where the CDC announces it will no longer count covid positive cases of people who have been fully vaccinated. If you are mistaken, it's alright... I am imperfect and make mistakes all the time, just own it to the people you repeat misinformation to is all I ask.