You agree: man exercised his God-given free will to sin.
Before God gave man free will,, did God know that man would use that God given free will to sin?
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You agree: man exercised his God-given free will to sin.
Before God gave man free will,, did God know that man would use that God given free will to sin?
Yes.
Its just like you and your Children.
You show them what is right, but you can't make them do it when they are alone or on their own.
Adam is........not a Robot.
God didn't create human robots.....He creating living beings with feelings and emotions and desire., and free will.
Did God know that Adam was going to make a bad choice.
Yes.
He understands that about all of us, but, that is FREE WILL...........It has a consequence, and that is.......you have to live with the consequences. Thats the Law of Free will.
You can do what you want, but you have to live with the result of your choices.
God could not blame them for Choosing?
What are you saying now?
Listen, if you go before a Judge, does He send you to jail because God made you do it?
What is this theology of...>"i dont make choices i am a robot just like Adam".
Its really a very anti-bible situation you are invested in.
You are not a young person, so, it would be difficult for you to hear me, as you are so long deceived by your group.
If you can at some point come to the light, then it would be quite a challenge for you to leave what has so harmed your thinking and your theology, for so long.
God is able, if you are willing.
Of course, Scripturally, THEY "CHOSE" {by free will}, to REJECT {Remaining in UNbelief and Damnation!} JESUS CHRIST, And, HIS FINISHED Work On The Cross!:
"...we WILL NOT have THIS MAN to Rule Over us!..." (Luke_19:14 KJB!)
Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!
God's Simple Will!
I do not agree we choose, God wills IN US to do of His good pleasure.
We are born again not by the will of the flesh nor by the will of man but by the will of God.
Christ told them that If they did not believe in Him, they would die in their sins.
That a Choice being given them............ And we have the same choice.
"God would that all men be saved"........"God is not willing that ANY should perish".
Jesus said, if you believe in Him, you have eternal life, and '"""You shall never perish"....
God is Good.
Jesus is Lord
was it not by God's predeterminate plan that they said "we will not have this man to reign over us?"
Its the will of God that all be saved.
That's His will..
His Good pleasure is that God has created a simple way for us to become a part of Him, Spiritually.
This is "the simplicity that is in Christ".
We dont have to die on the Cross. We only have to believe in the One who died for us, on the Cross.
God didnt create robots.
He created free will beings.
I guess that next you will be telling us that what you had for breakfast, is what God made you eat.
The devil makes us robots, he pushes your button and you lie, that's how it works.
Paul says we are servants of who we obey, either of sin unto death or righteousness unto life . You may choose who you will serve [but only if God gives that choice ... and then the power to accomplish it] but you will serve.
The devil only pushes your button if he controls your mind.
In that case, you would have to be a unbeliever, or you would have to be a mind blinded believer.
Free Will comes with being born.
Its built right in to every human being., as God pre-determined....starting with Adam.
Also, Most believers are the servants of the cult they belong to, that has them in the dark.
God says that "as you think in your heart of yourself, that is who your self will become in reality".
To renew your mind, after being born again, is to learn to only see yourself as the "new Creation" "In Christ"
You agree that before God gave me free will, God knew man would use his freewill to sin.
Did God know beforehand the extent to which man would sin from the free will God gave him?
God knew that Lucifer would become Satan.
God knew that "Michael King", would change His name to "Martin Luther King".
There isn't anything that God does not know....including what you will have to eat in the morning.