The duel of the people and the masks.

[DavidTree]

DISQUALIFIED = adding to and taking away from Scripture
DISQUALIFIED = Conjecture
DISQUALIFIED = You added what is NOT presented in Scripture = ONLY John was taken up - NOT the consumation of His Bride/First Resurrection/ pretrib rapture of the Church.

CORRECT = John said
4 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.”

After this I looked Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.

After this comes the FIRST Resurrection later in Chapter 14 = No rapture before the first resurrection = 1 Thessalonians 4
No rapture before Antichrist = 2 Thess 2 and Revelation 14 and 1 John 2:18

WAKE UP - REPENT and stop preaching damned heresy from arrogant religious leaders.

You DISQUALIFY yourself on every post - READ the RULES

 

[DavidTree]

$1,000 to anyone who can show, ONLY Scripture, that clearly states: The Bride of Christ/His Elect/His Church is pre-trib raptured before the first resurrection.

#1 Rules apply: No Conjecture, No Religion, No Personal Belief Statements, No Arguing

#2 Rules Apply: "I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.
And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book." Revelation 22:18-19

#3 Rules Apply: Proverbs 30: 5-6 "Every word of God is flawless; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

DISQUALIFIED = adding to and taking away from Scripture
DISQUALIFIED = Conjecture
DISQUALIFIED = You added what is NOT presented in Scripture = ONLY John was taken up - NOT the consumation of His Bride/First Resurrection/ pretrib rapture of the Church.

What ever you say... we can continue this once you answer my questions.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Back on topic: using evidence what is your defense for or against masks.

 

[DavidTree]

Back on topic: using evidence what is your defense for or against masks.

EVIDENCE - Common Sense (medical/scientific) - The porous holes in the mask are about 100x bigger then the virus.

EVIDENCE - God did not create us to wear masks for day to day living our natural/normal lives. Under warranted conditions we wear masks, helmets, gloves, protective clothing and even Oxygen Masks(fire fighters, under water work/living, etc)

EVIDENCE - Masks are NOT warranted.

EVIDENCE - Mask are HARMING your God Ordained immune system - this is antichrist in purpose/effect/control.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

EVIDENCE - Common Sense (medical/scientific) - The porous holes in the mask are about 100x bigger then the virus.

EVIDENCE - God did not create us to wear masks for day to day living our natural/normal lives. Under warranted conditions we wear masks, helmets, gloves, protective clothing and even Oxygen Masks(fire fighters, under water work/living, etc)

EVIDENCE - Masks are NOT warranted.

EVIDENCE - Mask are HARMING your God Ordained immune system - this is antichrist in purpose/effect/control.

medical/scientific) - The porous holes in the mask are about 100x bigger then the virus.

Where is your source?

God did not create us to wear masks for day to day living our natural/normal lives. Under warranted conditions

Warranted conditions- bingo

EVIDENCE - Masks are NOT warranted.

Just saying evidence with no data or studies is not evidence.

EVIDENCE - Mask are HARMING your God Ordained immune system - this is antichrist in purpose/effect/control.

Prove it. Source? Reference? Data? Statistics? Studies?

I hate masks so I would love to agree. But so far it is only your opinion with no research behind it.

We ain't getting back into the Antichrist because you will not say who it is or if we are in the 7 year tribulation. So that isn't evidence either. No proof.

 

[DavidTree]

Where is your source?



Warranted conditions- bingo




Just saying evidence with no data or studies is not evidence.



Prove it. Source? Reference? Data? Statistics? Studies?

I hate masks so I would love to agree. But so far it is only your opinion with no research behind it.

We ain't getting back into the Antichrist because you will not say who it is or if we are in the 7 year tribulation. So that isn't evidence either. No proof.

The evidence is CLEAR as stated - God's Children follow TRUTH. Follow the TRUTH - Thy WORD is Truth....SOLA SCRIPTURA

We don't need no vaccination
We don't need no mind control
No Dark sarcasm from the Board Room
No evil masking in the classroom

Hey You - Leave those kids alone

God will require it from all who are part of the Beast System.

 

[TheLordIsMyRedeemer]

Has the 7-year tribulation started? You believe the vaccine is the mark of the beast right?


Revelation 13
New International Version
The Beast out of the Sea
13 The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Has this occurred already? Who is the Antichrist?

Has the 7-year tribulation started? You believe the vaccine is the mark of the beast right?


Revelation 13
New International Version
The Beast out of the Sea
13 The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Has this occurred already? Who is the Antichrist?

Definitely interesting questions to ponder I think. It is my view that these vaccines are part of the mark of the beast system. The technology is permanently altering the DNA. Although it is not the final mark of the beast, the biosensors/nanotechnology being used in the first vaccines are the same as what will be used in this final patch vaccine. The quantum dot tattoo vaccine featuring the micro-needle array patch is a likely candidate for the final mark of the beast system vaccine. Once the US economy collapses, the stage will be set for the global reset. A final cryptocurrency system will likely be connected to this final vaccine.

Satan is quite clever and I don't see why different parts of the mark of the beast can't be gradually introduced over a period of time before the revealing of the Antichrist. You are right in saying that Revelation 13:13-17 has not occurred. I do think they are testing the technology now, and when the Antichrist soon comes onto the scene the final and complete mark of the beast will be ready at that time.

 

[HisKid]

Definitely interesting questions to ponder I think. It is my view that these vaccines are part of the mark of the beast system. The technology is permanently altering the DNA. Although it is not the final mark of the beast, the biosensors/nanotechnology being used in the first vaccines are the same as what will be used in this final patch vaccine. The quantum dot tattoo vaccine featuring the micro-needle array patch is a likely candidate for the final mark of the beast system vaccine. Once the US economy collapses, the stage will be set for the global reset. A final cryptocurrency system will likely be connected to this final vaccine.

Satan is quite clever and I don't see why different parts of the mark of the beast can't be gradually introduced over a period of time before the revealing of the Antichrist. You are right in saying that Revelation 13:13-17 has not occurred. I do think they are testing the technology now, and when the Antichrist soon comes onto the scene the final and complete mark of the beast will be ready at that time.

How do you think the accepting of the mark, or his number, will be presented in such a way that you have to reject Christ to take it?

 

[DavidTree]

How do you think the accepting of the mark, or his number, will be presented in such a way that you have to reject Christ to take it?

#1 Just by taking the Mark alone results in rejecting Christ = No denouncing Christ necessary.

#2 There will be people who affiliate with a christian belief praising God while taking the Mark.

Can you see from Scripture these warnings?

 

[HisKid]

#1 Just by taking the Mark alone results in rejecting Christ = No denouncing Christ necessary.

#2 There will be people who affiliate with a christian belief praising God while taking the Mark.

Can you see from Scripture these warnings?

So how do we know it is actually the mark?

 

[DavidTree]

So how do we know it is actually the mark?

It has been CLEARLY spelled out for us in Revelation chapter 13

Jesus told us in Matthew 24
Paul told us in 1 & 2 Thessalonians
John told us in 1 John 2:18

Follow the example of the 24 Elders of Revelation:
The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembles at my word. Isaiah 66:2

 

[HisKid]

It has been CLEARLY spelled out for us in Revelation chapter 13

Jesus told us in Matthew 24
Paul told us in 1 & 2 Thessalonians
John told us in 1 John 2:18

Follow the example of the 24 Elders of Revelation:
The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembles at my word. Isaiah 66:2

For starters, I just read Matthew 24. I don't see any warning about a mark or how it will come about. I see how we will know the end is near. Can you please be very specific about the mark?

 

[DavidTree]

For starters, I just read Matthew 24. I don't see any warning about a mark or how it will come about. I see how we will know the end is near.

These are all pieces of the puzzle that when we FEED on them MEDITATE day & night on them, God looks upon our hungry hearts for HIM in His Word, seeing out desire to please Him so that we do not allow ourselves to be deceived.
This moves God's Heart - and He bestows to us the Holy Spirit that gives the illumination of scripture.

When our hearts are trained on His Word, our eyes begin to see as He sees.

Have you received the Promise of the Father spoken of by the Lord Jesus Christ?

 

[HisKid]

These are all pieces of the puzzle that when we FEED on them MEDITATE day & night on them, God looks upon our hungry hearts for HIM in His Word, seeing out desire to please Him so that we do not allow ourselves to be deceived.
This moves God's Heart - and He bestows to us the Holy Spirit that gives the illumination of scripture.

When our hearts are trained on His Word, our eyes begin to see as He sees.

Wow, well my husband will be really distressed to hear that since he is very close to the Lord and doesn't see any correlation with this "vaccine" and the mark of the beast.

Further, you must have a great deal of time on your hands if you feed and meditate day and night.. I have two jobs and hardly have the freedom to do that. I do stay in communion with the Lord all day, but don't have the kind of time to feed on Scripture like you do. However, I know the Lord and I know He knows me.. and I know He knows my husband... so just not really sure if you are entirely on point with this.

 

[DavidTree]

Wow, well my husband will be really distressed to hear that since he is very close to the Lord and doesn't see any correlation with this "vaccine" and the mark of the beast.

Further, you must have a great deal of time on your hands if you feed and meditate day and night.. I have two jobs and hardly have the freedom to do that. I do stay in communion with the Lord all day, but don't have the kind of time to feed on Scripture like you do. However, I know the Lord and I know He knows me.. and I know He knows my husband... so just not really sure if you are entirely on point with this.

Forgive me - When i said meditate i did not mean sitting in isolation. I meditate on God's Word when i am at work, driving, etc

 

[HisKid]

Forgive me - When i said meditate i did not mean sitting in isolation. I meditate on God's Word when i am at work, driving, etc

Still. I do appreciate you a lot. I think, however, you are missing something in your knowledge. You are too vague in your teaching. It's not helpful.

 

[DavidTree]

Wow, well my husband will be really distressed to hear that since he is very close to the Lord and doesn't see any correlation with this "vaccine" and the mark of the beast.

Further, you must have a great deal of time on your hands if you feed and meditate day and night.. I have two jobs and hardly have the freedom to do that. I do stay in communion with the Lord all day, but don't have the kind of time to feed on Scripture like you do. However, I know the Lord and I know He knows me.. and I know He knows my husband... so just not really sure if you are entirely on point with this.

When you and your husband have time together read Matthew 25:1-6, then start a daily reading together of the Gospel of John.

Blessing to you and your family.

 

[HisKid]

When you and your husband have time together read Matthew 25:1-6, then start a daily reading together of the Gospel of John.

Blessing to you and your family.

He is a student of the Word. He studies a lot. He has yet to conclude that the "vaccine" has any correlation to them mark of the beast. And, he believes we will be rapture before the wrath of God comes to the earth.. because, we are not appointed for wrath. Again, your teaching is lacking. If you wish to teach here in the forum, then do so!

 

[DavidTree]

He is a student of the Word. He studies a lot. He has yet to conclude that the "vaccine" has any correlation to them mark of the beast. And, he believes we will be rapture before the wrath of God comes to the earth.. because, we are not appointed for wrath. Again, your teaching is lacking. If you wish to teach here in the forum, then do so!

I do not have teaching - I just follow the Savior and His teachings.

Please refrain from adding to my words as that does not come from love or God = I NEVER said we are to suffer God's Wrath.

I have continuously pointed to the Apostle Paul - 1 & 2 Thessalonians.

We, who are in Christ, are NOT appointed to God's wrath - we are DELIVERED from it through our Lord Jesus Christ. In whom we patiently wait for His Return - AMEN