The duel of the people and the masks.

[Roughsoul1991]

It seems to be that masks are only effective when used in professional or controlled lab settings. In the general population within covid surges they did little to no good. Why? Is it because the people would rather risk the virus than wear a mask? Does the general population see it as tool for tyranny? Does the majority of the population wear the wrong masks? Don't properly dispose of them? Don't change or wash them as necessary? Constantly shifting and touching them? Wearing them the wrong way? Can't breath in them?

For some reason the masks by current studies suggest they work but only if worn by a professional or controlled lab setting.

What do you think? Do you have any updated studies?


Mask mandate and use efficacy in state-level COVID-19 containment
View ORCID ProfileDamian D. Guerra, Daniel J. Guerra
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385
Conclusions Mask mandates and use are not associated with slower state-level COVID-19 spread during COVID-19 growth surges. Containment requires future research and implementation of existing efficacious strategies.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v1

How effective is a mask in preventing COVID‐19 infection?
Yuxin Wang, Zicheng Deng, and Donglu Shi

Based on these studies, all people, regardless of physical conditions and professions, should wear masks at all times in prevention of COVID‐19.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7883189/

 

[Gideon300]

It seems to be that masks are only effective when used in professional or controlled lab settings. In the general population within covid surges they did little to no good. Why? Is it because the people would rather risk the virus than wear a mask? Does the general population see it as tool for tyranny? Does the majority of the population wear the wrong masks? Don't properly dispose of them? Don't change or wash them as necessary? Constantly shifting and touching them? Wearing them the wrong way? Can't breath in them?

For some reason the masks by current studies suggest they work but only if worn by a professional or controlled lab setting.

What do you think? Do you have any updated studies?


Mask mandate and use efficacy in state-level COVID-19 containment
View ORCID ProfileDamian D. Guerra, Daniel J. Guerra
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385
Conclusions Mask mandates and use are not associated with slower state-level COVID-19 spread during COVID-19 growth surges. Containment requires future research and implementation of existing efficacious strategies.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v1

How effective is a mask in preventing COVID‐19 infection?
Yuxin Wang, Zicheng Deng, and Donglu Shi

Based on these studies, all people, regardless of physical conditions and professions, should wear masks at all times in prevention of COVID‐19.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7883189/

Masks are horrible, especially in hot weather. However, they do have some benefits. As well as helping with COVID, there has been almost no flu in Australia since masks became mandatory.

 

[SophieT]

Masks are horrible, especially in hot weather. However, they do have some benefits. As well as helping with COVID, there has been almost no flu in Australia since masks became mandatory.

isn't Australia under strict lockdown again? at least certain parts?

 

[sonshine]

there has been almost no flu in Australia since masks became mandatory.

Stop glorifying the mask.
There has been almost no flu ANYWHERE because it is ALL being called COVID-!9, not flu.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

isn't Australia under strict lockdown again? at least certain parts?

I heard strict lockdown but the surge continued anyways.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Stop glorifying the mask.
There has been almost no flu ANYWHERE because it is ALL being called COVID-!9, not flu.

Yeap, you don't just have a surge in covid but eliminate the flu. Masks would work for both. But yet we still have covid going through both the vaccinated and unvaccinated.

 

[Magenta]

It seems to be that masks are only effective when used in professional or controlled lab settings.
In the general population within covid surges they did little to no good. Why?

Is it because the people would rather risk the virus than wear a mask?

Yes... some people, any ways.

Does the general population see it as tool for tyranny?

Some do. Some say that a corona virus test will give you the mark of the beast. Some say doctors are monsters for performing a standard medical procedure with a Q-Tip on babies. Clearly people are coming up with a lot of theories and insane conclusions around all this.

Does the majority of the population wear the wrong masks? Don't properly dispose of them? Don't change or wash them as necessary? Constantly shifting and touching them? Wearing them the wrong way? Can't breath in them?

For some reason the masks by current studies suggest they work but only if worn by a professional or controlled lab setting.

What do you think?

Many refuse to follow any recommendations or regulations, claiming any such thing is an affront to their sensibilities and a restrictive infringement on their inviolable God-given freedoms, which they vehemently demand to retain regardless of the potential for harm to others. I think masks do help deter the spread, though most people don't use N95 masks. Due to a shortage, health care professionals in some places were being required to use masks improperly, for instance, storing them for use over a week's period of time as opposed to the regular practice of changing to a new one multiple times a day, which would mean after every patient.

Yeap, you don't just have a surge in covid but eliminate the flu. Masks would work for both. But yet we still have covid going through both the vaccinated and unvaccinated.

Saying masks would work for both seems to ignore or overlook the fact that there are variables between the flu and corona which require each to be treated respectively. Plus, corona is much more virulent: So far, more than 32 million people have had COVID-19 in the U.S; 580,000 people have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. in 2020 and 2021 (618,363 deaths according to New York Times as of today). By comparison, during the 2019-2020 flu season in the U.S., about 38 million people had the flu and about 22,000 people died of the flu. source

Not to mention that corona is more prevalent in the unvaccinated, and
those who contract the virus post vax experience less severe symptoms.

 

[ZNP]

Stop glorifying the mask.
There has been almost no flu ANYWHERE because it is ALL being called COVID-!9, not flu.

Can't we look at the silver lining, flu is down, deaths from heart attacks are down, deaths from cancer are down, even car accidents are down.

 

[sonshine]

Can't we look at the silver lining, flu is down, deaths from heart attacks are down, deaths from cancer are down, even car accidents are down.

nope because now with the experimental jabs they are passing out heart issues are on the RISE......
dormant cancer cells are being awoken causing caners to return in people who were in remission.............
I've actually been in MORE, and have witnessed MORE near accidents these past few months than ever before.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Yes... some people, any ways.


Some do. Some say that a corona virus test will give you the mark of the beast. Some say doctors are monsters for performing a standard medical procedure with a Q-Tip on babies. Clearly people are coming up with a lot of theories and insane conclusions around all this.

Many refuse to follow any recommendations or regulations, claiming any such thing is an affront to their sensibilities and a restrictive infringement on their inviolable God-given freedoms, which they vehemently demand to retain regardless of the potential for harm to others. I think masks do help deter the spread, though most people don't use N95 masks. Due to a shortage, health care professionals in some places were being required to use masks improperly, for instance, storing them for use over a week's period of time as opposed to the regular practice of changing to a new one multiple times a day, which would mean after every patient.

Saying masks would work for both seems to ignore or overlook the fact that there are variables between the flu and corona which require each to be treated respectively. Plus, corona is much more virulent: So far, more than 32 million people have had COVID-19 in the U.S; 580,000 people have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. in 2020 and 2021 (618,363 deaths according to New York Times as of today). By comparison, during the 2019-2020 flu season in the U.S., about 38 million people had the flu and about 22,000 people died of the flu. source

Not to mention that corona is more prevalent in the unvaccinated, and
those who contract the virus post vax experience less severe symptoms.

Many refuse to follow any recommendations or regulations, claiming any such thing is an affront to their sensibilities and a restrictive infringement on their inviolable God-given freedoms, which they vehemently demand to retailn regardless of the potential for harm to others.

It is the American spirit to fight for liberty even if it means people die. The colonists did the same thing and started a Revolution. Many will say the war was started over high taxes. A small matter in comparison to go to war over. Same with masks.

Here is the resemblance. It wasn't just high taxes but many grievances listed in the Declaration that caused them to declare independence.

With the masks we have had many grievances that point to a socialist tyrannical mission to destroy all of our human rights.

Mask resistance may simply be a message to the tyrants.

We have seen so much hypocrisy related to free speech and religious freedom. They allowed cities to be burned and destroyed by riots yet lockdowns were still enforced.

Then the election and all the voting irregularities.

Now we are facing a socialist infrastructure bill costing trillions. Not to mention the push to federalize our national elections including passing the Equality Act that will have devastating effects on religious freedom.

The loss of liberty has the greatest risk of losing life.

By comparison, during the 2019-2020 flu season in the U.S., about 38 million people had the flu and about 22,000 people died of the flu.

I agree, but it also shows we have not eliminated the flu either.

Not to mention that corona is more prevalent in the unvaccinated, and
those who contract the virus post vax experience less severe symptoms.

It is also being covered up on how dangerous these vaccines are.

Liberty Council has been documented the data.

This should be a good reason if you are low risk to not get vaccinated. Especially those who are pregnant or want to have kids.

The number of cases experiencing adverse reactions has been reported to be 700 per 100,000 vaccinations. Currently, we see 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations, and the number of fatal side effects is at 4.11/100,000 vaccinations. For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two inflicted by vaccination. Conclusions: This lack of clear benefit should cause governments to rethink their vaccination policy.

https://lcaction.org/vaccine#reactions

Liberty Counsel Action is a law and policy education, training and advocacy organization.

People are still dying either from the vaccine or getting sick after being vaccinated.

US Physicians will now lose their medical license for reporting vaccine injuries and providing informed consent to patients
2021-08-06
https://archive.is/Ez4wG

Why would physicians lose their medical licenses for simply informing people of the risks?

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Can't we look at the silver lining, flu is down, deaths from heart attacks are down, deaths from cancer are down, even car accidents are down.

Data? Drug overdose had a huge spike.

Unintentional injuries were the fourth leading cause of U.S. mortality in 2020—with 192,176 deaths last year, up from 173,040 in 2019. "Increases in unintentional injury deaths in 2020 were largely driven by drug overdose deaths," according to the JAMA analysis.

 

[Nehemiah6]

In the general population within covid surges they did little to no good.

That is a FACT.
Mask-Free Sweden Is Close To ZERO Daily Covid Deaths
https://principia-scientific.com/mask-free-sweden-is-close-to-zero-daily-covid-deaths/

 

[Magenta]

That is a FACT.
Mask-Free Sweden Is Close To ZERO Daily Covid Deaths
https://principia-scientific.com/mask-free-sweden-is-close-to-zero-daily-covid-deaths/

Sweden’s department of health said it expected the entire adult population will have received
two jabs by autumn, and that there will be a good supply of vaccine over the coming years.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

That is a FACT.
Mask-Free Sweden Is Close To ZERO Daily Covid Deaths
https://principia-scientific.com/mask-free-sweden-is-close-to-zero-daily-covid-deaths/

That is good but they seem to blame it their high vaccine rates.

There is a need for preparedness and attention everywhere. One should not draw any conclusions from the fact that no sick people have been found in a municipality this week. It can lead to serious consequences if you drop your guard,’ he said.

On Monday, Tegnell announced plans for booster vaccine doses for the most vulnerable citizens from the start of September.

‘The assessment is that it is not possible to eradicate the virus and therefore vaccination work should be long-term and focused on reducing serious illness and death,’ the health chief said.

Sweden’s department of health said it expected the entire adult population will have received two jabs by autumn, and that there will be a good supply of vaccine over the coming years.

The authority did not give an exact figure for how many people would get a third jab next year, but said that a large part of the population would be offered another jab.

 

[Magenta]

Sweden passed a milestone in the fight against Covid-19 on Thursday with more than half
of all adults in the country having received both doses of a vaccine against the virus.

As of July 29th, a total of 4,118,142 people have now received both doses (all vaccines being used in Sweden require two) while 6,365,362 have received at least one. That’s 50.3 percent and 77.7 percent of Sweden’s adult population respectively. source

 

[DavidTree]

The joke of our current day is this: "masks help in preventing Covid".
and the joke is on you who believe this lie.

Follow the SCIENCE not the science fiction

"For the time will come when people will not tolerate sound doctrine and accurate instruction [that challenges them with God’s truth]; but wanting to have their ears tickled [with something pleasing], they will accumulate for themselves [many] teachers [one after another, chosen] to satisfy their own desires and to support the errors they hold," 2 Timothy 4:3

 

[DavidTree]

Sweden’s department of health said it expected the entire adult population will have received
two jabs by autumn, and that there will be a good supply of vaccine over the coming years.

If, you believe in the death jabb = Why do you promote that which God has said is 'unclean' and of the evil one?

 

[Magenta]

If, you believe in the death jabb = Why do you promote that which God has said is 'unclean' and of the evil one?

Where have I said I believe in the death jabb?

To post that Sweden is going mask free without mentioning it is due to the majority of their population being vaccinated looks to be slanted and one sided and maybe even deliberately deceptive reporting. Why are people so averse to balanced reporting?

Chapter and verse where God says the vaccination is unclean, please.

 

[DavidTree]

Where have I said I believe in the death jabb?

To post that Sweden is going mask free without mentioning it is due to the majority of their population being vaccinated looks to be slanted and one sided and maybe even deliberately deceptive reporting. Why are people so averse to balanced reporting?

Chapter and verse where God says the vaccination is unclean, please.

OK, was not sure, that is why I started with the word 'If' - thank you
I responded because the inference to the 'Double Shot' which can easily be read as if that was the reason for health in Sweden.

 

[DavidTree]

Where have I said I believe in the death jabb?

To post that Sweden is going mask free without mentioning it is due to the majority of their population being vaccinated looks to be slanted and one sided and maybe even deliberately deceptive reporting. Why are people so averse to balanced reporting?

Chapter and verse where God says the vaccination is unclean, please.

ALL of the Truth that is in God starts with His Knowing of all things because He EXISTS before ALL things and = ALL things were made by Him and without Him NOTHING was made that was made. - John 1:1-3

For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. Colossians 1:16

Even from the beginning I have declared it to you; Before it came to pass I proclaimed it to you, Lest you should say, ‘My idol has done them, And my carved image and my molded image Have commanded them.’
Isaiah 48:5