Sabbath

[Charlie16]

How Is that? Do we take it with Romans 4 and Eph 2?

You do understand the scripure must all agree do you not?

Yes I do, but I'm not gonna disregard James 2 just because it seems it disagrees with other points of Scripture. If it's in the Bible, then I believe it. I think with further study you'll that they don't contradict.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The Bible doesn't say that outfront no, but if you study it then you come to that conclusion. If you've studied it and you didn't come to that conclusion, that's fine by me. Like I said, we are all different and we have different ways of interpreting the Scripture. God bless you.

So you can’t even attempt to prove it. I have studied it, Long and hard. And what you are proposing is nothing but propaganda, there is nothing in the passage or scripture which would even hint at such a thing. I am worried about you my friend, Deeply worried about you.

 

[SophieT]

I recommended that video because it's biblically based. If something in it contradicts the Bible then feel free to disregard it.

no

you have posted that video more than once and it is not based on scripture. it is a concoction of the SDA self promoting false beliefs

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yes I do, but I'm not gonna disregard James 2 just because it seems it disagrees with other points of Scripture. If it's in the Bible, then I believe it. I think with further study you'll that they don't contradict.

James 2 does not contradict romans 4 and eph 2. But sadly people want to pull it out and make it its own passage.

I think it would be better to interpret all three so they agree, and not make them fight against each other.

The first step is to look at context as to why each passage was written and to who.

 

[Charlie16]

Actually going to church on Saturday IS breaking the sabbath

Your not to do ANY WORK. Unless you are doing work which is required for life. (Remember, Jesus was told he broke the sabbath because he healed).

What day we go to church is NOT the issue. And you judging people who worship on Sunday as being in sin is just wrong.

if I was you. I would stop focusing on following laws. I would worry about how I love God and serve others (the law of Love) because I can keep all ten commands the best I can and do it all my life. It will not make me righteous person nor will it make me christ like. Thats not why it was given. You need to study galations deep and hard my friend

I don't focus on studying the law, I never said that. My goal is to lead my life with the love of Christ in me, but he said "if you love me, keep my commandments". That doesn't mean I'm always making sure that everything I do is in line with the ten commandments. I believe that naturally as we develop a relationship with Christ, we naturally also follow the commandments. God bless you.

 

[SophieT]

Yes I do, but I'm not gonna disregard James 2 just because it seems it disagrees with other points of Scripture. If it's in the Bible, then I believe it. I think with further study you'll that they don't contradict.

James does not disagree with any scripture

what happens when people try to make doctrine out of a passage they do not know how to reconcile with other scripture, is that error is born and leads people into deception

the Bible does not say what you are promoting. do you have a special SDA Bible like the Jehovah Witnesses have their own special Bible?

 

[Charlie16]

no

you have posted that video more than once and it is not based on scripture. it is a concoction of the SDA self promoting false beliefs

Have you watched it?

 

[Charlie16]

James does not disagree with any scripture

what happens when people try to make doctrine out of a passage they do not know how to reconcile with other scripture, is that error is born and leads people into deception

the Bible does not say what you are promoting. do you have a special SDA Bible like the Jehovah Witnesses have their own special Bible?

No. I follow the same Bible that you follow.

 

[Charlie16]

James does not disagree with any scripture

what happens when people try to make doctrine out of a passage they do not know how to reconcile with other scripture, is that error is born and leads people into deception

the Bible does not say what you are promoting. do you have a special SDA Bible like the Jehovah Witnesses have their own special Bible?

I didn't say it James disagrees with Scripture. I said sometimes it seems like it disagrees with Scripture, but it doesn't.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don't focus on studying the law, I never said that. My goal is to lead my life with the love of Christ in me, but he said "if you love me, keep my commandments". That doesn't mean I'm always making sure that everything I do is in line with the ten commandments. I believe that naturally as we develop a relationship with Christ, we naturally also follow the commandments. God bless you.

He was not talking about the Ten Commandments in that passage my friend.

He also told you HOW to obey his commands. By following the law of Love.

Your trying to obey some law no one can obey, A burden that scripture says even the jews could not keep. Stop looking to self and how good you are. Look to God and others and what you can do to serve them. THEN and ONLY then will you be seen as a command keeper.

 

[SophieT]

Have you watched it?

have you watched the videos on youtube that explain why people generally refer to SDA as a cult?

didn't think so

you are only 15. you believe what you are told. people who do their own study and break free from those who try to control them do not believe SDA teachings are correct

if you study the roots of the SDA you will find much to discredit Ellen White and her devious doctrines

 

[Charlie16]

James 2 does not contradict romans 4 and eph 2. But sadly people want to pull it out and make it its own passage.

I think it would be better to interpret all three so they agree, and not make them fight against each other.

The first step is to look at context as to why each passage was written and to who.

Well I don't see what the probelm is. James says that faith with works is dead. That means that if we have faith it will also show through the works we do. The faith is the only thing that can justify us yes, but the works is why we help the poor and feed the hungry.

 

[SophieT]

I didn't say it James disagrees with Scripture. I said sometimes it seems like it disagrees with Scripture, but it doesn't.

oh right. it just seems like it

you seem to work very hard to correct what you actually say

you are simply following what you are being taught. it is not scriptural

 

[Charlie16]

have you watched the videos on youtube that explain why people generally refer to SDA as a cult?

didn't think so

you are only 15. you believe what you are told. people who do their own study and break free from those who try to control them do not believe SDA teachings are correct

if you study the roots of the SDA you will find much to discredit Ellen White and her devious doctrines

I study the Bible for myself. My age has nothing to do with that. I may not have as much experience as you, but I believe that whether I'm 15 or 50 God will reveal the truth to me through His Word.

 

[Charlie16]

oh right. it just seems like it

you seem to work very hard to correct what you actually say

you are simply following what you are being taught. it is not scriptural

I am following the Scriptures.

 

[SophieT]

Well I don't see what the probelm is

the problem is that the SDA is not in accordance with the Bible.

hopefully you will see that one day when you are older and start to think for yourself and you will break free of this cult

 

[SophieT]

I study the Bible for myself. My age has nothing to do with that. I may not have as much experience as you, but I believe that whether I'm 15 or 50 God will reveal the truth to me through His Word.

no you don't

you study SDA literature and read it under the auspices of that group

you age has alot to do with it and you will see that in years to come

God is not responsible for what you believe. He has already given us the truth but many want to distort that truth and the SDA is a group that does so

 

[SophieT]

I am following the Scriptures.

no you are not

you are following SDA teachings

 

[Charlie16]

the problem is that the SDA is not in accordance with the Bible.

hopefully you will see that one day when you are older and start to think for yourself and you will break free of this cult

It's not a cult. I read the Bible and from what I've seen, everything I do has been in accordance with it. I don't think for myself, I let God guide my thoughts. He has guided me to read the Scripture, and ththe Scripture is where I get my understandings from.

 

[SophieT]

It's not a cult. I read the Bible and from what I've seen, everything I do has been in accordance with it. I don't think for myself, I let God guide my thoughts. He has guided me to read the Scripture, and ththe Scripture is where I get my understandings from.

it is a cult