Warning to Christians: Totally Refuse COVID Vaccines

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Nehemiah6

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...panicked into going along with her canadian gov. propaganda...
Actually the Canadian government propaganda has run parallel with that of Fraudulent Fauci in the USA (and that scoundrel is still not behind bars).

Not a single Canadian provincial premier has stood up to all the lies and called out the medical establishment and Big Pharma. Instead they went full Nazi and sent their COVID Gestapo to arrest pastors and shut down churches over a bogus pandemic. And the courts went along with this gross violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

So what are the facts? Worldometer is currently showing 26,526 deaths in all of Canada. The population of Canada is about 39,000,000 perhaps even 40 million.
So let's do the math using the smaller number. That works out to 0.068% of the population (officially). That is about the same as Sweden.

NO ONE ADJUSTED FOR OVER-REPORTING
Death rates have usually been presented per 100,000 of the population. Which means that there were only 68 deaths per 100,000 (using official numbers). But since COVID deaths were over-reported by at least 30%, that should be reduced to 48 deaths per 100,000 (probably even less).

NO ONE INSISTED ON EARLY EFFECTIVE TREATMENTS
The one missing ingredient in all of this is the banning and sabotage of the HCQ combo pack (HCQ/azithromycin/zinc) and ivermectin. Studies have shown that early treatment with these drugs reduced the death rate by at least 60%. So if we apply that to the above, we get only 27 deaths/100,000.

NO ONE ADJUSTED FOR AGE GROUP AT GREATEST RISK
It has also been shown that about 45% of COVID deaths were in the age group of 75 and up. So if we factor that in the death rate for the general population it would be only about 15 deaths/100,000. Did this small death rate justify all the fear-mongering, lockdowns, quarantines, and all the other nonsense?

NO ONE ADJUSTED FOR FALSE POSITIVE PCR TESTS
The PCR tests do not detect an actual virus. Furthermore the Ct (cycle threshold) values were set too high when they should have been only 24-25. As a result 99% of the so-called "cases" were false positives. And this has never been properly addressed. So when we hear about "100 cases" or "1,000" cases, that is pure propaganda.
 
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Actually the Canadian government propaganda has run parallel with that of Fraudulent Fauci in the USA (and that scoundrel is still not behind bars).

Not a single Canadian provincial premier has stood up to all the lies and called out the medical establishment and Big Pharma. Instead they went full Nazi and sent their COVID Gestapo to arrest pastors and shut down churches over a bogus pandemic. And the courts went along with this gross violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

So what are the facts? Worldometer is currently showing 26,526 deaths in all of Canada. The population of Canada is about 39,000,000 perhaps even 40 million.
So let's do the math using the smaller number. That works out to 0.068% of the population (officially). That is about the same as Sweden.

NO ONE ADJUSTED FOR OVER-REPORTING
Death rates have usually been presented per 100,000 of the population. Which means that there were only 68 deaths per 100,000 (using official numbers). But since COVID deaths were over-reported by at least 30%, that should be reduced to 48 deaths per 100,000 (probably even less).

NO ONE INSISTED ON EARLY EFFECTIVE TREATMENTS
The one missing ingredient in all of this is the banning and sabotage of the HCQ combo pack (HCQ/azithromycin/zinc) and ivermectin. Studies have shown that early treatment with these drugs reduced the death rate by at least 60%. So if we apply that to the above, we get only 27 deaths/100,000.

NO ONE ADJUSTED FOR AGE GROUP AT GREATEST RISK
It has also been shown that about 45% of COVID deaths were in the age group of 75 and up. So if we factor that in the death rate for the general population it would be only about 15 deaths/100,000. Did this small death rate justify all the fear-mongering, lockdowns, quarantines, and all the other nonsense?

NO ONE ADJUSTED FOR FALSE POSITIVE PCR TESTS
The PCR tests do not detect an actual virus. Furthermore the Ct (cycle threshold) values were set too high when they should have been only 24-25. As a result 99% of the so-called "cases" were false positives. And this has never been properly addressed. So when we hear about "100 cases" or "1,000" cases, that is pure propaganda.
Canada is not USA.... and things are done differently here... Your information seems accurate enough... It was quite refreshing to read something simple.
 

gb9

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Actually the Canadian government propaganda has run parallel with that of Fraudulent Fauci in the USA (and that scoundrel is still not behind bars).

Not a single Canadian provincial premier has stood up to all the lies and called out the medical establishment and Big Pharma. Instead they went full Nazi and sent their COVID Gestapo to arrest pastors and shut down churches over a bogus pandemic. And the courts went along with this gross violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

So what are the facts? Worldometer is currently showing 26,526 deaths in all of Canada. The population of Canada is about 39,000,000 perhaps even 40 million.
So let's do the math using the smaller number. That works out to 0.068% of the population (officially). That is about the same as Sweden.

NO ONE ADJUSTED FOR OVER-REPORTING
Death rates have usually been presented per 100,000 of the population. Which means that there were only 68 deaths per 100,000 (using official numbers). But since COVID deaths were over-reported by at least 30%, that should be reduced to 48 deaths per 100,000 (probably even less).

NO ONE INSISTED ON EARLY EFFECTIVE TREATMENTS
The one missing ingredient in all of this is the banning and sabotage of the HCQ combo pack (HCQ/azithromycin/zinc) and ivermectin. Studies have shown that early treatment with these drugs reduced the death rate by at least 60%. So if we apply that to the above, we get only 27 deaths/100,000.

NO ONE ADJUSTED FOR AGE GROUP AT GREATEST RISK
It has also been shown that about 45% of COVID deaths were in the age group of 75 and up. So if we factor that in the death rate for the general population it would be only about 15 deaths/100,000. Did this small death rate justify all the fear-mongering, lockdowns, quarantines, and all the other nonsense?

NO ONE ADJUSTED FOR FALSE POSITIVE PCR TESTS
The PCR tests do not detect an actual virus. Furthermore the Ct (cycle threshold) values were set too high when they should have been only 24-25. As a result 99% of the so-called "cases" were false positives. And this has never been properly addressed. So when we hear about "100 cases" or "1,000" cases, that is pure propaganda.

ah, but here is the thing-

in order to get emergency use authorization for the vax, there had to be " no known effective treatments",

that is why hydroxy and the others were demonized and dismissed early on, and any healthcare professional saying that they worked were blacklisted from the t.v. media and kicked off social media...
 

Rosemaryx

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@gb9 ...
Are you still taking zinc ?
I am coming to the end of my first bottle , but not quiet sure if it said to only take them for six months...
...xox...
 

gb9

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@gb9 ...
Are you still taking zinc ?
I am coming to the end of my first bottle , but not quiet sure if it said to only take them for six months...
...xox...

yes, i take 50 mg of zinc 3-5 days of week on top of my daily multi-vitamin .

just have to watch taking it all the time.

i have been spacing it out like this for about 15 months, and have had no issues..
 

Rosemaryx

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yes, i take 50 mg of zinc 3-5 days of week on top of my daily multi-vitamin .

just have to watch taking it all the time.

i have been spacing it out like this for about 15 months, and have had no issues..
@gb9 ...
I just looked on my bottle and it is only 15mg per tab , and I take one every day...
Do you think I could carry on taking this amount daily for the next 6 months , seeing yours is 50 mg ?

Also I take 650 mg of Ester -C vit tab once a day , it is a vitamin C , so is multi vits better to take ?
Just looking for advice...
...xox...
 

Genipher

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I agree with you. So why do all you American Christians hate your own gov't so much?

Why are all you anti-vaxxers not obeying Romans 13? To obey the authorities IS to obey God! Even if they are lying. Of course, there are limits to that, like if the authorities told us to renounce Christ from our lives and disobey God, then we are obligated to stand up for Jesus. So many Christians are being persecuted for their faith around the world, and yet they go to their deaths, proudly proclaiming Christ to be their Lord & Saviour.

"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by God’s appointment, and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God. 2 So the person who resists such authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will incur judgment." Romans 13:1-2

And this was the Roman Empire Paul was talking about, who put him to death, but not till he had shared the gospel with kings and pauper.

All we are talking about on this thread is science and medicine, and people are hysterical like the vaccine is demons being poured into their bodies. It is NOT in any way, shape, or form about God, religion or spiritual obedience. Luke was a doctor and God used him in many ways, including medicine!

And not one person will lose their salvation, if God has made them alive in Christ. That is the only way to be saved, which is even true Arminian doctrine. Let alone lose your salvation because you took a vaccine which lowered the rate of COVID cases and deaths considerably! It is the most heinous heresy -to say that a thing like what you believe about science and medicine are going to cause you to lose your salvation. It also says people do NOT know or read their Bibles. What does Jesus say in Hebrews 13:5?

"Your conduct must be free from the love of money and you must be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you and I will never abandon you.” Hebrews 13:5

First, you can never lose your salvation, because it is not yours to lose! God picks us, and makes us new creations, alive in Christ. We do not choose the sovereign Lord of the universe. He chooses us. We are dead people, until the Holy Spirit makes us born from above!

"As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved." Eph 2:1-5

Clearly verses 4 & 5 say:

GOD made us alive with Christ, even when we were dead in transgressions. Before he saved us, Christ was already preparing to make us new creatures in Christ.

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast." Eph 2:8-9

Not from ourselves. We did not become a child of God by willing it to be so. No! God is the one who saves.

"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!" 2 Cor. 5:17

And even if, hypothetically, we assume it is possible to lose your salvation, it would be something huge, which involves something like blasphemy or heresy. Never in a million years would anyone lose their salvation because they did or didn't take a vaccine. It's ludicrous to even suggest something so false, so far from the heart and purpose of God, it is yet another false doctrine from hell.

I think people should have choice as to whether to have this vaccine or not. I don't believe in vaccine passports which is discriminatory. BUT, this thread is the largest repository of hysterical misinformation and paranoia I have ever seen, regarding taking the vaccine. The fear mongerers are the anti-vaxxers with all their lies, useless sources, exploiting people's ignorance. Really, what difference does it make if people choose to have the vaccine! If I have the vaccine, that is my choice. If you don't have it, that is your choice, unless you have been brainwashed with anti-vax propaganda.

I saw a tweet from a nurse. People in the ICU dying from COVID, listen ask if they can have the vaccine. Sadly the vaccine is preventative, not a cure! Once you have COVID you are out of luck. Don't let that be you!
I saw that tweet by the nurse in a news article. Honestly, it sounds like a big scare tactic.

Where is the line in what we allow the government to put into our bodies? If you say they have the God-given right to make us take a vaccine, then what happens when the Mark of the Beast comes and they demand we "obey" and take it? How many people will be conditioned that we HAVE to take it because we HAD to take all the stuff before it? How many Christians will feel guilted into taking the Mark of the Beast because they were preached at to obey the governmental authorities?

I have a friend who, years ago, had a bunch of vaccines so she could travel to Africa. She told me she didn't get sick from a cold or flu or NADA for about 6 years after all the inoculations. However, she now suffers from autoimmune disorders and is allergic to so many foods, it's ridiculous.

So, sure. You might feel great now. Perhaps the vaccine helped you get over that cold your grandson gave you. But you might be worse off in, say, 5+ years. Nobody knows the long-term effects from this vaccine. We each need to look at what Yahweh is telling us to do and follow accordingly and not just trust the government willy-nilly with our health.
I'm glad you didn't have any immediate negative affects from the vaccine. Praying you wont' have long term issues down the line.
 
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I saw that tweet by the nurse in a news article. Honestly, it sounds like a big scare tactic.

Where is the line in what we allow the government to put into our bodies? If you say they have the God-given right to make us take a vaccine, then what happens when the Mark of the Beast comes and they demand we "obey" and take it? How many people will be conditioned that we HAVE to take it because we HAD to take all the stuff before it? How many Christians will feel guilted into taking the Mark of the Beast because they were preached at to obey the governmental authorities?

I have a friend who, years ago, had a bunch of vaccines so she could travel to Africa. She told me she didn't get sick from a cold or flu or NADA for about 6 years after all the inoculations. However, she now suffers from autoimmune disorders and is allergic to so many foods, it's ridiculous.

So, sure. You might feel great now. Perhaps the vaccine helped you get over that cold your grandson gave you. But you might be worse off in, say, 5+ years. Nobody knows the long-term effects from this vaccine. We each need to look at what Yahweh is telling us to do and follow accordingly and not just trust the government willy-nilly with our health.
I'm glad you didn't have any immediate negative affects from the vaccine. Praying you wont' have long term issues down the line.
Thank you for this massage and hope others this.
 

Genipher

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So now what? Blame it on the new variants and continue to produce more and more vaccines to deal with the never ending variants?
When does this all end? :unsure: I get the feeling it was never meant to come to an end.
It ends with the majority of the world desensitized to taking vaccines so when the Mark of the Beast comes they believe it isn't a big deal and roll up their sleeves like they've been programmed to do.
 

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It is going to be a great year as the deaths and serious illnesses from COVID begin to plummet over the next 6 months.
That was April, this is July and the numbers are going up due to Delta...but we never took you to be a prophet. :)
 

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It ends with the majority of the world desensitized to taking vaccines so when the Mark of the Beast comes they believe it isn't a big deal and roll up their sleeves like they've been programmed to do.
The words "grooming" and "dress rehearsal" come to mind.
 

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