Unconditional love and the church's approach to homosexuality

[JerryInBoston]

That’s not the gospel

the gospel is believe on the name of the lord Jesus and you will be saved

we Are saved by grace through faith, not work, lest anyone should be puffed up

not by good deeds which we have done but by gods mercy he saved us

for God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes shall never die but has eternal life

whoever believes is not condemned whoever does not believe is condemned already

whoever calls on the name and believes with the heart shall be saved


you works based self righteous gospel will never save anyone, it will keep,people from God not bring the, close, because their is no new birth

"teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you." Matthew 28:19-20. Jesus said it. I believe it. I'll follow Jesus. Observing all that Jesus commanded is not works when you are saved. Like I tell my kids: "find something you love doing and you'll never work a day in your life."

I love my Lord Jesus, therefore I observe all He commands. If you don't love Jesus, you won't observe all He commands. Do you love the Lord Jesus?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

"teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you." Matthew 28:19-20. Jesus said it. I believe it. I'll follow Jesus. Observing all that Jesus commanded is not works when you are saved. Like I tell my kids: "find something you love doing and you'll never work a day in your life."

I love my Lord Jesus, therefore I observe all He commands. If you don't love Jesus, you won't observe all He commands. Do you love the Lord Jesus?

Yep

teaching THEM

they are already saved.

That is sanctification. Not justification.

Works are a RESULT OF SALVATION.

You teach works are IN ORDER TO RECEIVE SALVATION.

You have it backwards

 

[JerryInBoston]

Yep

teaching THEM

they are already saved.

That is sanctification. Not justification.

Works are a RESULT OF SALVATION.

You teach works are IN ORDER TO RECEIVE SALVATION.

You have it backwards

I am saved, I love Jesus, therefore I observe all that Jesus commands. You don't observe all that Jesus commands, which means you don't love Jesus, which means you are not saved.

 

[Magenta]

I am saved, I love Jesus, therefore I observe all that Jesus commands. You don't observe
all that Jesus commands, which means you don't love Jesus, which means you are not saved.

There is that special hypocritical brand of double standard again...

Since somehow your sins are ok but others' are not, even though they are also saved.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I am saved, I love Jesus, therefore I observe all that Jesus commands.

You don't observe all that Jesus commands,

Show me where I said claimed that I do not keep Gods commands.

especially when I have stated numerous times we do. BECAUSE we are saved.

which means you don't love Jesus, which means you are not saved.

lol. whatever dude. You slander and then pump yourself up as if you are better than me

and there you go judging again!.

Newsflash dude, Your not God

 

[JerryInBoston]

There is that special hypocritical brand of double standard again...

Since somehow your sins are ok but others' are not, even though they are also saved.

My sins earned me the death penalty. How about yours?

Here's three very simple yes/no qestions:

1. Are you saved?
2. Do you love Jesus?
3. Do you observe all that Jesus commands?

Be blessed.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

There is that special hypocritical brand of double standard again...

Since somehow your sins are ok but others' are not, even though they are also saved.

Got to love these pharisee types pumping their chest..

 

[JerryInBoston]

Show me where I said claimed that I do not keep Gods commands.

especially when I have stated numerous times we do. BECAUSE we are saved.




lol. whatever dude. You slander and then pump yourself up as if you are better than me

and there you go judging again!.

Newsflash dude, Your not God

I've only told the truth here. You don't observe all that Jesus commands because you wrongly judge me and condemn me because you wrongly accuse me of trying to earn salvation. If you love Jesus, you will apologize. In advance of your apology, I forgive you.

 

[Magenta]

I've only told the truth here.

Your opinion does not equal truth.

You don't observe all that Jesus commands because you wrongly judge me...

Heh, while you go around wrongly judging others...

Meanwhile, you still sin while claiming to observe all Jesus commanded.

 

[JerryInBoston]

There is that special hypocritical brand of double standard again...

Since somehow your sins are ok but others' are not, even though they are also saved.

I never stated my sins were less damning than anyone's. I forgive you, Magenta, in advance of your apology to me for your lies about me.

 

[JerryInBoston]

Your opinion does not equal truth.


Heh, while you go around wrongly judging others...

Meanwhile, you still sin while claiming to observe all Jesus commanded.

You're the truth police now? So much hate here, and you claim to be saved.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I've only told the truth here. You don't observe all that Jesus commands because you wrongly judge me and condemn me because you wrongly accuse me of trying to earn salvation. If you love Jesus, you will apologize. In advance of your apology, I forgive you.

I Just claim what you admitted yourself
did you think I was going to forget???

My post from a few days ago!

after saying he is being obedient to maintain salvation, or perfect his salvation in the flesh. @JerryInBoston said this

You lie. I never said I was perfected through the flesh.

While calling me a liar, then he claimed he did not do those things to be saved.

I don't do those things to be saved. I am saved, I'm being saved, and I will be eternally saved. Of this I'm certain. Praise Jesus, hallelujah. I do those things because I love God for giving an undeserved sinner like me eternal life, and all that I do, I do for the glory of God.

then he Denys he is trying to earn salvation, stating he has never said salvation can be earned

You keep saying "earn salvation", and you're the only one stuck on that. I've never said I earn salvation or that salvation can be earned. It's your animus toward the biblical truth that you can lose your salvation that has your panties in an eternal bunch.

so I asked him, why does he demand people must obey to be saved, which he has flatly denied

Then why do you demand i and others do those things to be saved?

then he claims it’s not him but it’s God (way to deflect)

I don't demand you or anyone else do anything, God commands it.

i asked once again, to be saved, basically taking us back to when I stated he said these works must be done? (Back to perfecting or maintaining our salvation in the flesh and by works?

to be saved?

and he finally admits it

and to stay saved.

after all the denial, all the rejection, in the end, as it always does, the truth comes out

the above will be saved for reposting if this poster tried to deny works again

not to be mean, but this poster has judged the salvation of a few people in christian chat, and he needs to know the judgement he passes on others, will be passed on him

So as we all can see. According to @JerryInBoston He believed it is God who claims we must not only do good works to be saved. But we have to do them to maintain it, or in Jerry's own words

and to stay saved.

So now who is the liar??

 

[Magenta]

You're the truth police now? So much hate here, and you claim to be saved.

More of your hypocrisy. Ho hum. You are in need of new material.

 

[JerryInBoston]

I Just claim what you admitted yourself
did you think I was going to forget???

My post from a few days ago!

after saying he is being obedient to maintain salvation, or perfect his salvation in the flesh. @JerryInBoston said this


While calling me a liar, then he claimed he did not do those things to be saved.

then he Denys he is trying to earn salvation, stating he has never said salvation can be earned

so I asked him, why does he demand people must obey to be saved, which he has flatly denied

then he claims it’s not him but it’s God (way to deflect)

i asked once again, to be saved, basically taking us back to when I stated he said these works must be done? (Back to perfecting or maintaining our salvation in the flesh and by works?

and he finally admits it


after all the denial, all the rejection, in the end, as it always does, the truth comes out

the above will be saved for reposting if this poster tried to deny works again

not to be mean, but this poster has judged the salvation of a few people in christian chat, and he needs to know the judgement he passes on others, will be passed on him

So as we all can see. According to @JerryInBoston He believed it is God who claims we must not only do good works to be saved. But we have to do them to maintain it, or in Jerry's own words



So now who is the liar??

You are the liar. I never claimed works salvation. No one earns salvation, but we who are saved will do good works for the glory of God.

Unless you repent and observe all that Jesus's commands, all liars will have their place in the lake of fire.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You are the liar. I never claimed works salvation. No one earns salvation, but we who are saved will do good works for the glory of God.

Unless you repent and observe all that Jesus's commands, all liars will have their place in the lake of fire.

I don't demand you or anyone else do anything, God commands it.

to be saved?

and to stay saved.

There it is in black and white/bolded letters.

You admitted you believe we must be obedient to BE SAVED, and TO MAINTAIN IT.

That is works based salvation my friend. You can deny it all you want. But it is.

I do not have to repent of anything, what I stated is truth. And I have YOUR WORDS to back me up

Your the one who needs to repent. You lie about your own belief.

 

[CS1]

You're the truth police now? So much hate here, and you claim to be saved.

don't engage these types, they have a massive amount of hypocrisy lack of memory. many here thrive on the OSAS or working for your salvation debate because they love to circle the wagon ( one wagon) around that topic only. Place them on " ignore" and move on.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

don't engage these types, they have a massive amount of hypocrisy lack of memory. many here thrive on the OSAS or working for your salvation debate because they love to circle the wagon ( one wagon) around that topic only. Place them on " ignore" and move on.

If one teaches salvation must be earned or maintained by works

They teach a works based Gospel

If you do, you do too

 

[JerryInBoston]

If one teaches salvation must be earned or maintained by works

They teach a works based Gospel

If you do, you do too

I don't teach works based salvation. But I forgive you for the false allegations you've made against me, even though you don't see your own error.

You believe the false doctrine of once saved always saved, but there are many professing Christians, pastors included, who do fall away from their faith, and renounce Christianity altogether, some even commit suicide for whatever reasons. When they they fall away and renounce their faith in Christ, are you suggesting they are still saved?

 

[CS1]

I don't teach works based salvation. But I forgive you for the false allegations you've made against me, even though you don't see your own error.

You believe the false doctrine of once saved always saved, but there are many professing Christians, pastors included, who do fall away from their faith, and renounce Christianity altogether, some even commit suicide for whatever reasons. When they fall away and renounce their faith in Christ, are you suggesting they are still saved?

they will say they were never saved, to begin with. it is a prideful argument and both osas and armenians won't give. it is an argument only with those who claim to be saved already.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don't teach works based salvation. But I forgive you for the false allegations you've made against me, even though you don't see your own error.

You believe the false doctrine of once saved always saved, but there are many professing Christians, pastors included, who do fall away from their faith, and renounce Christianity altogether, some even commit suicide for whatever reasons. When they they fall away and renounce their faith in Christ, are you suggesting they are still saved?

so you deny you said that we MUST be obedient to be saved and in your own words KEEP IT?

Even though we see in your own words you said it?

This is not about OSAS my friend. This is about what you stated.

Do you deny the words you said?