divorce, remarrriage and separation- Bibically?

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unabashedlly

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What does God say about divorce and remarriage in the Bible? Is that applicable to us today?
 

p_rehbein

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Do a quick "search" of this on your 'puter and you will find a plethora of Scriptures to consider
 
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Matthew Chapter 5

31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:

32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
 

oyster67

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What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.




Yes
Amen. And another thought that comes to mind... why do people so easily forget their wedding vows? The Bible also tells us to honor our own words. "...'till death do us part' " seems pretty straightforward to me. Many dive into marriage without counting the possible cost. I realize this is a hard pill to swallow. We must honor our vows.

Remember the children as well.
 

oyster67

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Is that applicable to us today?
Yes, the Bible is for us and applies to us. This is why we read and study it. This is why we honor and obey it.

2 Timothy
3:14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned [them];
3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
 
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Matthew 19:3-12 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
 

CS1

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What does God say about divorce and remarriage in the Bible? Is that applicable to us today?
the problem is not the word of God or God's standard of marriage being applicable, God has not changed his mind on marriage Genesis 2:24 has not changed since God said it. The foolishness is man thinks it is not for today and then wonders why we have the issue we do today.

the main reason why divorce happens is Unforgiveness. I said the main reason not the only one.
 

ResidentAlien

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A lot of people ignore the Biblical teachings on divorce for their own convenience. It's blatant and everywhere in the church, unfortunately. And they have a million excuses for why it's okay.
 

DeanM

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Yes it applies to us today. The world changes, God doesnt.
 

Jackson123

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One time on OT God want Jews divorce their foreign wife

Ezra 10

1While Ezra was praying and confessing, weeping and throwing himself down before the house of God, a large crowd of Israelites—men, women and children—gathered around him. They too wept bitterly. 2Then Shekaniah son of Jehiel, one of the descendants of Elam, said to Ezra, “We have been unfaithful to our God by marrying foreign women from the peoples around us. But in spite of this, there is still hope for Israel. 3Now let us make a covenant before our God to send away all these women and their children, in accordance with the counsel of my lord and of those who fear the commands of our God. Let it be done according to the Law.

But on NT, only when your partner commit adultery

Paul say in 1 for 7
If unbeliever wife leave, let it be so but if she want to stay don't divorce her

12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.
15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?
 
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What does God say about divorce and remarriage in the Bible? Is that applicable to us today?
What's curious is that Jesus said that if someone looks at someone else with lust for them in their heart then that's the equivalent of adultery. Jesus said that adultery is grounds for divorce.

I don't know for sure, but most married adults have probably taken a peek at someone other than their husband or wife and desired them sexually.

If that's true, which it probably is for most adults, then by the word of God a divorce is optional. So when people get divorced for seemingly non-applicable things, it may be that the conditions for a divorce already exist and that God is not judging them. So be careful before being unmerciful to a divorcee who never actually slept with someone else.

Many married people are adulterers and adulteresses, even if in spirit, even though they hate to admit it.
 

Lanolin

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I think divorce can be a mercy to stop couples from killing each other. Maybe they are taking the vows seriously 'till death do you part' I mean imagine if you wanted to hurt your spouse so bad you wanted either to kill them or commit suicide if you had to keep on living in under the same roof.

The snores or smells must be THAT bad. Of course. if you spouse decides to sleep with someone else, or wants to, they would be totally unfaithful to you. Isnt marriage supoosed to be like, forever, even on bad days, through PMS, bad periods and smelly socks and baby vomit?
 

CS1

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What's curious is that Jesus said that if someone looks at someone else with lust for them in their heart then that's the equivalent of adultery. Jesus said that adultery is grounds for divorce.

I don't know for sure, but most married adults have probably taken a peek at someone other than their husband or wife and desired them sexually.

If that's true, which it probably is for most adults, then by the word of God a divorce is optional. So when people get divorced for seemingly non-applicable things, it may be that the conditions for a divorce already exist and that God is not judging them. So be careful before being unmerciful to a divorcee who never actually slept with someone else.

Many married people are adulterers and adulteresses, even if in spirit, even though they hate to admit it.
the context is no the looking or noticing a woman or man who is attractive it is the LUSTFUl look that roll plays a sexual thought.

God knows our thoughts most who cheat on their wife has thought about it long before they did it. Jesus is saying your heart is full of adultery and you need to deal with it or it will deal with you. Matthew 5:27-28
 
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Matthew Chapter 5

31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:

32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
I’m not challenging that this is what Scripture teaches but this is not completely apples to apples. Jewish women at the time of Christ were completely dependent on their husbands. A writing of divorcement was a death sentence unless she sold herself into slavery, or prostitution, possibly as a concubine or marry another man. It’s not like she was capable of owning property.. What Christ taught is true to them but not to us. If I divorce my wife, she is fully capable to support herself. There is no causation for her to need to have sex with another man forcing adultery upon anyone.
 

Chester

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I’m not challenging that this is what Scripture teaches but this is not completely apples to apples. Jewish women at the time of Christ were completely dependent on their husbands. A writing of divorcement was a death sentence unless she sold herself into slavery, or prostitution, possibly as a concubine or marry another man. It’s not like she was capable of owning property.. What Christ taught is true to them but not to us. If I divorce my wife, she is fully capable to support herself. There is no causation for her to need to have sex with another man forcing adultery upon anyone.
I do not think that today's culture changes what the text in Matthew 5: 31,32 says. I prefer to just simply take what Jesus says at face value.
 

Evmur

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I’m not challenging that this is what Scripture teaches but this is not completely apples to apples. Jewish women at the time of Christ were completely dependent on their husbands. A writing of divorcement was a death sentence unless she sold herself into slavery, or prostitution, possibly as a concubine or marry another man. It’s not like she was capable of owning property.. What Christ taught is true to them but not to us. If I divorce my wife, she is fully capable to support herself. There is no causation for her to need to have sex with another man forcing adultery upon anyone.
But that is not the reason Jesus gave. The reason He gave was "what God hath joined together let no man put asunder"
 
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But that is not the reason Jesus gave. The reason He gave was "what God hath joined together let no man put asunder"
Yes, and then later in this chapter He declares that whoever leaves parents, wealth, wife and children for His sake will receive a hundred times when they share in His inheritance. If your wife prevents you from fully serving the Lord because she is selfish and needy for your time and money, then what?
 

SomeDisciple

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What's curious is that Jesus said that if someone looks at someone else with lust for them in their heart then that's the equivalent of adultery. Jesus said that adultery is grounds for divorce
He said that if you lust after them then you've committed adultery in your heart. But doing something in your heart isn't the same thing as actually doing it.
There is no chance Jesus was trying to make divorce something that could be done on a whim!

If that's the case, we could justify executing someone for being angry. Does that really make sense!?!?
 
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He said that if you lust after them then you've committed adultery in your heart. But doing something in your heart isn't the same thing as actually doing it.
Jesus said otherwise. Heart intention of lust is the same as the physical act of adultery itself.

Matthew 5:28
28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Matthew 5:32
32But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.


There is no chance Jesus was trying to make divorce something that could be done on a whim!
See above. Jesus made the grounds for divorce remarkably easy. Which verses say otherwise?

If that's the case, we could justify executing someone for being angry. Does that really make sense!?!?
Actually, God can hold an angry person accountable to His judgement with the possibility of hellfire.

Matthew 5:21-22
21Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

I think where you're getting off track is that the civil authorities do not have the same standards as God.