Do catholics worship God or the pope?

[TheLearner]

Listen Rome really doesn't accept western "Catholics", they tolerate them. You see yourself as the collective church no matter where you are i.e. universal church = catholic? I am in the understanding of the word and its meaning thank you.

The point is the word catholic is not in the word of God. The term Christian is. And the Doctrine to which I listed as you do know was in context to the RCC which is the Threads topic AKA Pope do they worship

Definition of catholic (Entry 1 of 2)
1aoften capitalized : of, relating to, or forming the church universal
boften capitalized : of, relating to, or forming the ancient undivided Christian church or a church claiming historical continuity from it
ccapitalized : ROMAN CATHOLIC
Her son goes to a Catholic school.
2: COMPREHENSIVE, UNIVERSAL
especially : broad in sympathies, tastes, or interests
a catholic taste in music
Catholic noun
Cath·o·lic | \ ˈkath-lik , ˈka-thə- \
Definition of Catholic (Entry 2 of 2)
1: a person who belongs to the universal Christian church
2: a member of a Catholic church
especially : ROMAN CATHOLIC
Other W

saying a word is not in the Bible is a poor argument and discredits your full post.

There are many doctrines, teachings that are named by titles, words not in the Bible.

 

[CS1]

How many Christians read the Bible for themselves before printing became common and cheap?

I do not disagree that church leaders taught the scriptures before everyone could have their own Bible to read.
Even after that church leaders still teach the scriptures. People know how to read and doing so, learn.

People can learn by hearing(teaching), reading and seeing(dvd).

how many Christians read the bible? I am not debating the gifts of the Christ found in Eph chapter 4 Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, and teachers They are gifts given to the church for the perfecting of the saints. it is the anointing and gifting of the Holy Spirit the Spirit of truth that enables one to be effective. it is the Holy SPirit WHO brings INTO REMEMBRANCE ALL that Jesus has said.

God has kept HIS word and we have it today. Yet there are those who have made a tradition of man authoritative as the word of GOD.

They seek knowledge but have no relationship. dead speaking to the dead.

 

[CS1]

Definition of catholic (Entry 1 of 2)
1aoften capitalized : of, relating to, or forming the church universal
boften capitalized : of, relating to, or forming the ancient undivided Christian church or a church claiming historical continuity from it
ccapitalized : ROMAN CATHOLIC
Her son goes to a Catholic school.
2: COMPREHENSIVE, UNIVERSAL
especially : broad in sympathies, tastes, or interests
a catholic taste in music
Catholic noun
Cath·o·lic | \ ˈkath-lik , ˈka-thə- \
Definition of Catholic (Entry 2 of 2)
1: a person who belongs to the universal Christian church
2: a member of a Catholic church
especially : ROMAN CATHOLIC
Other W

saying a word is not in the Bible is a poor argument and discredits your full post.

There are many doctrines, teachings that are named by titles, words not in the Bible.

Now that you have provided the definition of the word catholic which I said many posts ago,

That has nothing to do with the Error of the institution known as RCC or western Cathloics today.

I am glad you know the origin of the word " Catholic".

 

[TheLearner]

how many Christians read the bible? I am not debating the gifts of the Christ found in Eph chapter 4 Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, and teachers They are gifts given to the church for the perfecting of the saints. it is the anointing and gifting of the Holy Spirit the Spirit of truth that enables one to be effective. it is the Holy SPirit WHO brings INTO REMEMBRANCE ALL that Jesus has said.

God has kept HIS word and we have it today. Yet there are those who have made a tradition of man authoritative as the word of GOD.

They seek knowledge but have no relationship. dead speaking to the dead.

"brings INTO REMEMBRANCE ALL that Jesus has said. " in context that was spoken to the apostles. No one in modern times can say they were with Jesus on earth back then.

 

[Jackson123]

The Pope is coming from the right place when he makes these declarations. But Satan walks freely among us in these end times and he is seizing upon good intention and using it for his own e

No the pope is not right He know the devil plan one world government and he promote it

So the popes work for the devil

Read again ccc 841 ask yourself did Muslim worship man’s kind judge in the last day?

Why catholic lie on it?

The reason is to get support to do Lucifer agenda to rule the world to compete jesus

 

[Mark47Oz]

No the pope is not right He know the devil plan one world government and he promote it

So the popes work for the devil

Read again ccc 841 ask yourself did Muslim worship man’s kind judge in the last day?

Why catholic lie on it?

The reason is to get support to do Lucifer agenda to rule the world to compete jesus

It would seem that all you're here to do is Catholic bash. Have fun with that.

 

[TheLearner]

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm#841

 

[Jackson123]

It would seem that all you're here to do is Catholic bash. Have fun with that.

I am sorry if I offend you, I just want to go by honest logic.

Honest logic and the fact Muslim not worship mans kind judge on the last day, catholic state so, so catholic lie

Jesus will rule the earth, pope promote one world rule by not Jesus but international government, it will be antichrist, so pope work for Lucifer

 

[TheLearner]

how many Christians read the bible? I am not debating the gifts of the Christ found in Eph chapter 4 Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, and teachers They are gifts given to the church for the perfecting of the saints. it is the anointing and gifting of the Holy Spirit the Spirit of truth that enables one to be effective. it is the Holy SPirit WHO brings INTO REMEMBRANCE ALL that Jesus has said.

God has kept HIS word and we have it today. Yet there are those who have made a tradition of man authoritative as the word of GOD.

They seek knowledge but have no relationship. dead speaking to the dead.

John 14:26
But the Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My name [in My place, to represent Me and act on My behalf], He will teach you all things. And He will cause you to recall (will remind you of, bring to your remembrance) everything I have told you. We were not back then to have us tell us anything in person. In context Jesus is speaking only to the apostles, not to us today.

 

[TheLearner]

I am sorry if I offend you, I just want to go by honest logic.

Honest logic and the fact Muslim not worship mans kind judge on the last day, catholic state so, so catholic lie

Jesus will rule the earth, pope promote one world rule by not Jesus but international government, it will be antichrist, so pope work for Lucifer

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

How does the Church view other religions?
n°841-845

842 The Church's bond with non-Christian religions is in the first place the common origin and end of the human race:

What are the four characteristics of the Church?

3 Minute Catechism
n°811-865

843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life."

844 In their religious behavior, however, men also display the limits and errors that disfigure the image of God in them:

Very often, deceived by the Evil One, men have become vain in their reasonings, and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and served the creature rather than the Creator. Or else, living and dying in this world without God, they are exposed to ultimate despair.

845 To reunite all his children, scattered and led astray by sin, the Father willed to call the whole of humanity together into his Son's Church. the Church is the place where humanity must rediscover its unity and salvation. the Church is "the world reconciled." She is that bark which "in the full sail of the Lord's cross, by the breath of the Holy Spirit, navigates safely in this world." According to another image dear to the Church Fathers, she is prefigured by Noah's ark, which alone saves from the flood.

 

[Jackson123]

Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life."

So you believe Muslim teaching prepare or foundation for the gospel?

Do you know Muslim teach Jesus is only prophet?

Quote
Yusuf Ali: Say: "Praise be to Allah, who begets no son, and has no partner in (His) dominion: Nor (needs) He any to protect Him from humiliation: yea, magnify Him for His greatness and glory!"

So ccc 841 and so on is only political propaganda, the real reason is one world government and to be accepted by Christian she lie and find all pretending reason that this paragraph is preparation for the gospel.

Muslim teaching is against the gospel not preparation for the gospel

 

[CS1]

John 14:26
But the Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My name [in My place, to represent Me and act on My behalf], He will teach you all things. And He will cause you to recall (will remind you of, bring to your remembrance) everything I have told you. We were not back then to have us tell us anything in person. In context Jesus is speaking only to the apostles, not to us today.

if that is the case throw your bible away and stay home ok.