Unconditional love and the church's approach to homosexuality

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eternally-gratefull

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JerryInBoston said:
Why are you so interested? I don't celebrate sin like those in the hyper-grace movement.
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Who is celebrating a sin?

I am not the one excusing sin. We call sin for what it is sin.

Your the one celebrating or excusing your sin by calling out the people you deem as more sinful than you

If they do nto have christ, Share Christ with them

If they do have christ. Then there are ways in which we are to come along side and help them

I have yet to witness you do either of these two things
 
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eternally-gratefull

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JerryInBoston said:
Legalism? Not me. Im not burdened by the law, because it's written on my heart, and my yoke is the Lord Jesus's. Your subjective definition of legalism is your problem.
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Yet you still think it is through the flesh we are perfected.

Yeah, You h=are a legalist. Deny it all you want.. I have seen and grown up with your type. You claim grace. but there is no grace in your bones. Just judgment
 
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eternally-gratefull

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DADZ said:
there is no such thing as hyper grace. Calling it that proves you think like an idiot. and we dont celebrate sin, you have to think that in order to feeel superior, its called religous pride, a sin.
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Its like the osas debate. They try to put a name to it, and claim they know what we believe, Only to prove they have no idea what we believe or what we think.

They cant have a regular discussion and just discuss what others say. They have to put them on a spreadsheet and once they do that, They THINK they know everything about us.

Then they go out and say things which are not true about us, And when we call them out for it. They get angry and start attacking

Sadly this is what much of the church has come to. I have witnessed pastors who tell you what so and so believes, Teachers who insist these people believe this, It was not until I actually opened up and went and asked them I found out I was told wrong.

Pride is a dangerous thing
 
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eternally-gratefull

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JerryInBoston said:
When you read the parable of the prodigal son, at what point in that parable do you see that he repented and was saved?
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When you read the prodigal son, What point do you see he was no longer his fathers son?

When he repented is easy, Can you answer the hard question?
 
JerryInBoston

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eternally-gratefull said:
Yet you still think it is through the flesh we are perfected.

Yeah, You h=are a legalist. Deny it all you want.. I have seen and grown up with your type. You claim grace. but there is no grace in your bones. Just judgment
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You lie. I never said I was perfected through the flesh. Stop lying. I said I am wholly imperfect, and only by the atoning covering of Jesus Christ am I made perfect. You don't seem to understand what the atonement is or what it means. Go read up. There'll be a quiz later.
 
JerryInBoston

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eternally-gratefull said:
Who is celebrating a sin?

I am not the one excusing sin. We call sin for what it is sin.

Your the one celebrating or excusing your sin by calling out the people you deem as more sinful than you

If they do nto have christ, Share Christ with them

If they do have christ. Then there are ways in which we are to come along side and help them

I have yet to witness you do either of these two things
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I never said anyone's sin was greater than or lesser than my own. And neither do I celebrate sin, not mine,, not yours. Not anyone's. You like to exaggerate about what others state. Is that an emotional tool for you? I'm not offended, just put off a bit at your lack of honesty.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
When you read the prodigal son, What point do you see he was no longer his fathers son?

When he repented is easy, Can you answer the hard question?
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Do you believe if the prodigal son had never repented and returned to his father that he would still be saved?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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JerryInBoston said:
You lie. I never said I was perfected through the flesh. Stop lying. I said I am wholly imperfect, and only by the atoning covering of Jesus Christ am I made perfect. You don't seem to understand what the atonement is or what it means. Go read up. There'll be a quiz later.
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yet you JUDGE OTHERS.

Practice what you preach

I can only judge you by what I see
 
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JerryInBoston said:
I never said anyone's sin was greater than or lesser than my own. And neither do I celebrate sin, not mine,, not yours. Not anyone's. You like to exaggerate about what others state. Is that an emotional tool for you? I'm not offended, just put off a bit at your lack of honesty.
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I am not the one who judged another person my friend..

Again. Practice what you preach
 
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JerryInBoston said:
Do you believe if the prodigal son had never repented and returned to his father that he would still be saved?
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once again. When did he stop being the son? Did His fathers blood stop flowing through him?

Please answer.
 
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I think homosexuals should boycott any church or denomination that doesnt celebrate perversion in all its forms.
 
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kaylagrl

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eternally-gratefull said:
Judge not lest ye be judged

Jesus never told you to judge anyone salvation! Period!
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This whole thread reminds me of a Gaither song and makes the point I've been trying to make all along. It's called " I Catch Em, He Cleans Em"

I was driving around down south Louisiana
Stopped in a town called Galliano
I saw a sign on a church that said, "Fish fry tonight"
A little old Cajun preacher was preachin'
Reminded me of an old camp meeting
It brought Saint Matthew 4:19 to life


He said, "I catch 'em, God cleans 'em
I bait the hook with the love of the Kingdom
I've been called to be a fisher of men"
"I catch 'em, God cleans 'em
Heaven knows He saves every soul that believes Him
I reel 'em in and He washes away their sin"

Yeah, it didn't take long for Him to catch my attention
He was long on grace and short on religion
He said a prayer and that was all that she wrote
He said, "Amen!", and God as my witness
I fell in that big ole net of forgiveness
And before I knew it we were all in the same boat

He said, "I catch 'em, God cleans 'em
I bait the hook with the love of the Kingdom
I've been called to be a fisher of men"
"I catch 'em, God cleans 'em
Heaven knows He saves every soul that believes Him
I reel 'em in and He washes away their sin"

I catch 'em, God cleans 'em
I bait the hook with the love of the Kingdom
I've been called to be a fisher of men
I catch 'em, God cleans 'em
Heaven knows He saves every soul that believes Him
I reel 'em in and He washes away their sin
Yeah, I reel 'em in and He washes away their sin
Oh yes, He does
I reel 'em in and He washes away their sin
Let's go fishing
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
once again. When did he stop being the son? Did His fathers blood stop flowing through him?

Please answer.
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You're thinking of a completely fleshly father and son, in which case it's obvious. That said, not everyone is a child of the Father in heaven.
 
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kaylagrl

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DeanM said:
I think homosexuals should boycott any church or denomination that doesnt celebrate perversion in all its forms.
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I think homosexuals should boycott any church or denomination that says "love the sin, hate the sinner" and then never actually reaches out in love to the sinner. I catch 'em, HE cleans 'em. ;)
 
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