Unconditional love and the church's approach to homosexuality

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JerryInBoston

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H3n0515 said:
Galatians 2:19-21

You make a mockery of the cross
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Brother,

We are not under the yoke of the law, but we are not excused to live our lives in total disobedience to God's moral standards.

You'll agree, I'm sure, that Apostle Paul was taught by the risen and glotified Jesus.

Accordingly, Paul wrote: "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.
 
H3n0515

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JerryInBoston said:
Brother,

We are not under the yoke of the law, but we are not excused to live our lives in total disobedience to God's moral standards.

You'll agree, I'm sure, that Apostle Paul was taught by the risen and glotified Jesus.

Accordingly, Paul wrote: "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.
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I agree...

If we have the Spirit we will act a certain way...

When we sin the Spirit departs until repentance...

Paul comments on this saying when he sins he is dead...

Jesus is life
 
oyster67

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H3n0515 said:
If it is in love I don't really have an issue
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Any sex outside of marriage is sin. Sin is not love in any way, shape, or form.
H3n0515 said:
1 Corinthians 7 says marriage is a leniency for those who are lustful
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Marriage is much more than that, my friend. Marriage is a picture of God's desired relationship with His Church bride. It is a holy thing (not a vent or a safety valve for a horny man's frustrations).
 
H3n0515

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oyster67 said:
Any sex outside of marriage is sin. Sin is not love in any way, shape, or form.

Marriage is much more than that, my friend. Marriage is a picture of God's desired relationship with His Church bride. It is a holy thing (not a vent or a safety valve for a horny man's frustrations).
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The earthly rendition is a poor substitute

If you must marry they should help you towards God

It is better to not get distracted
 
JerryInBoston

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H3n0515 said:
I agree...

If we have the Spirit we will act a certain way...

When we sin the Spirit departs until repentance...

Paul comments on this saying when he sins he is dead...

Jesus is life
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Brother,

We do indeed have the Spirit. which gives us a sound mind and convicts us of our very thought pattern. When we give in to temptation, we do have an advocate to whom we confess and who cleanses us of all unrighteousness. However, repentance means changing one's mind, turning away from sin and toward God. The ones who sin continually and wilfully are refusing to "retain God in their knowledge, [therefore] God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." Romans 1:28-32.
 
H3n0515

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JerryInBoston said:
Brother,

We do indeed have the Spirit. which gives us a sound mind and convicts us of our very thought pattern. When we give in to temptation, we do have an advocate to whom we confess and who cleanses us of all unrighteousness. However, repentance means changing one's mind, turning away from sin and toward God. The ones who sin continually and wilfully are refusing to "retain God in their knowledge, [therefore] God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." Romans 1:28-32.
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Sin means to miss
Repent means return

If you venture away come back
 
H3n0515

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Galatians 6:1

Too many get lost in sin trying to stop others sinning

Only those mature in the Spirit should council
 
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JerryInBoston said:
Brother,

How often can you miss the mark and return? What happens when you miss the mark and die before you return?
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It is not for me to say what will happen

God is present now, I dislike when he leaves
 
H3n0515

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oyster67 said:
The Word of God says it is vile and unnatural and an abomination.
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It does...

I am celebate for over 15 years...

I think the same is true of heterosexual relations...

You are using a human being for pleasure and arranging to continue doing so...

I am not advocating gay orgies by any stretch...

I am pointing out that this doesn't help your salvation
 
oyster67

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H3n0515 said:
It is not for me to say what will happen
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It is for you to know the fate of those who die in sin. It is for you to share the truth about this to others before it is to late. You have a commission to fulfill, brother.
 
H3n0515

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oyster67 said:
...and He has spoken.
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No, in this case Paul is speaking...

Do not mistake this, these are fallable men...

They are important in so much as they express theosis effectively

Where they fail the results are often tragic
 
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oyster67 said:
It is for you to know the fate of those who die in sin. It is for you to share the truth about this to others before it is to late. You have a commission to fulfill, brother.
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I do not care their fate

I know I am saved

I would like to help others

This is my calling
 
H3n0515

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Ultimately my words desire to create receptivity to grace

Everything else is irrelevant
 
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