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Seems to happen when lawyers roam the threads trying to push law
The law of many laws
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The law of love is what empowers us to overcome sin
The law of Moses was never given for that purpose. It was given to prove we are sinners and show us the means of redemption once we figure out what it showed us
Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Faith is a force not a work. Have you ever heard a description of faith that sounded like performing well enough, and long enough to ern Gods approval or running for so long and so hard that you eventually cross some unseen invisible line drawn by God ?
Have you ever heard faith portrayed as some sort of spiritual mussle that you have to work strenuously and exaustingly to build up ?
Have you ever heard anyone talking about having enough faith to move God ?
The fact is, Genuine, biblical faith is none of theese things. dont missunderstand---faith is vitally important. Jesus constantly praised it, encouraged it, and was clearly disapointed when his deciples didnt have it.
The new tessertment refers to faith as a multitude of times.
Faith is good and extrraordinarily powerful.
But faith isnt a work that qualifies you to recieve an answer from God.
Faith is a spiritual force that takes holdof the answer God has allready joyfully provided you. Another word for faith is belief.
When we believ God, believe in his utter goodness, kindness, and faithfullness, and believe he is for us, believe his word, believe his sacrifice was sufficient, that faith reaches out and accesses what God has given.
In other words faith isnt something you do to get God to move. Its the calm assurance that he has allready moved, that everything you could ever need has been abundantly supplied.
1 faith is a force
2 God is a force.
3 so are his believers
Have you ever heard faith portrayed as some sort of spiritual mussle that you have to work strenuously and exaustingly to build up ?
Have you ever heard anyone talking about having enough faith to move God ?
The fact is, Genuine, biblical faith is none of theese things. dont missunderstand---faith is vitally important. Jesus constantly praised it, encouraged it, and was clearly disapointed when his deciples didnt have it.
The new tessertment refers to faith as a multitude of times.
Faith is good and extrraordinarily powerful.
But faith isnt a work that qualifies you to recieve an answer from God.
Faith is a spiritual force that takes holdof the answer God has allready joyfully provided you. Another word for faith is belief.
When we believ God, believe in his utter goodness, kindness, and faithfullness, and believe he is for us, believe his word, believe his sacrifice was sufficient, that faith reaches out and accesses what God has given.
In other words faith isnt something you do to get God to move. Its the calm assurance that he has allready moved, that everything you could ever need has been abundantly supplied.
1 faith is a force
2 God is a force.
3 so are his believers
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Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
I thought this post said that faith does come from the spirit.. please read it again. and i feal this posts says faith has power, not faith comes from power. how would you conclude im saying faith comes from power on what ive wrote here ?.
de-emerald said:
Faith is a force not a work. Have you ever heard a description of faith that sounded like performing well enough, and long enough to ern Gods approval or running for so long and so hard that you eventually cross some unseen invisible line drawn by God ?
Have you ever heard faith portrayed as some sort of spiritual mussle that you have to work strenuously and exaustingly to build up ?
Have you ever heard anyone talking about having enough faith to move God ?
The fact is, Genuine, biblical faith is none of theese things. dont missunderstand---faith is vitally important. Jesus constantly praised it, encouraged it, and was clearly disapointed when his deciples didnt have it.
The new tessertment refers to faith as a multitude of times.
Faith is good and extrraordinarily powerful.
But faith isnt a work that qualifies you to recieve an answer from God.
Faith is a spiritual force that takes holdof the answer God has allready joyfully provided you. Another word for faith is belief.
When we believ God, believe in his utter goodness, kindness, and faithfullness, and believe he is for us, believe his word, believe his sacrifice was sufficient, that faith reaches out and accesses what God has given.
In other words faith isnt something you do to get God to move. Its the calm assurance that he has allready moved, that everything you could ever need has been abundantly supplied.
1 faith is a force
2 God is a force.
3 so are his believers
By grace God has already provided everything you need, through the redemptive work of his son, He has made provisions for all forgivness, healing finances, freedom and overcoming power you will ever require. Theese things are yours and mine, they belong to you and me, but as the chiildren of Isreal discovered, there is a critical difference between ownership and possession.
As the Israelite nation approached the land of promise, God spoke to them and said its yours, i give it to you, now take possession of it, (the land became leagally theirs the moment their mighty, soverrign God decreed it so, yet nothing about their lives changed in that moment.
Infact, an entire generation of Isrealites died in the wilderness without even enjoying what rightfully belonged to them, why ? Well maybe they allowed fear and wrong belief to rob them of there God given inheritance.
Belief or faith is your extended hand to take possession of what God allready decreed is yours. to me faith actually reaches over in to the spiritual realm and draws what God has allready supplied, then pulls it back into the physical realm, on earth as in heaven so to speak, understanding this can change your life, as Jesus said it is your faith that made you well. which is power.
So i thing ive explained my faith well here, perhaps someone would like to share theirs please.
As the Israelite nation approached the land of promise, God spoke to them and said its yours, i give it to you, now take possession of it, (the land became leagally theirs the moment their mighty, soverrign God decreed it so, yet nothing about their lives changed in that moment.
Infact, an entire generation of Isrealites died in the wilderness without even enjoying what rightfully belonged to them, why ? Well maybe they allowed fear and wrong belief to rob them of there God given inheritance.
Belief or faith is your extended hand to take possession of what God allready decreed is yours. to me faith actually reaches over in to the spiritual realm and draws what God has allready supplied, then pulls it back into the physical realm, on earth as in heaven so to speak, understanding this can change your life, as Jesus said it is your faith that made you well. which is power.
So i thing ive explained my faith well here, perhaps someone would like to share theirs please.
The Children of Israel, while they were in the wilderness, were disobedient, and by their disobedience Salvation was gained by the nations.
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It is close to where six thousand years will have been accomplished and Israel will be new and we shall all see the New Jerusalem by the grace of Jesus Yeshua.
Of that day and hour yet only our Father knows, our Eternal Father.
We have been born of the Light, and we shall return to the Light. Meanwhile we carry the Light within.
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It is close to where six thousand years will have been accomplished and Israel will be new and we shall all see the New Jerusalem by the grace of Jesus Yeshua.
Of that day and hour yet only our Father knows, our Eternal Father.
We have been born of the Light, and we shall return to the Light. Meanwhile we carry the Light within.
Matthew 19:28
Nothing to do with works. It is to do with obedience whatever the cost. True disciples follow Lord Jesus wherever He leads them. And true disciples know that it is by grace that we are saved, not of works (Ephesians 2:5)
Matthew 16:7. Your interpretation is wrong. Lord Jesus answered the question, "What must I do?" If you took the time to read all of God's word, you would discover that it is impossible for anyone to keep God's commandments. If we could, Jesus need not have died and rose again.
Matthew 24:13. Wrong again. You misunderstand what salvation is about. Yes, I am OSAS. If a person is born again, they have eternal life. Eternal life means just that - it cannot die. If God can die spiritually, so can he who is born again. The salvation that Lord Jesus speaks of here is the salvation of the soul. The salvation of the spirit is instant, of the soul, it is a lifetime's work of God that we must work out in reverential fear and trembling. If you have trouble with this concept, 1 Peter 1: 8 & 9, James 1:21.
The apostle Paul declared that he had taught the whole counsel of God. We do well to learn the fundamentals ourselves before we try to instruct others.
In addition, as my friend reminded me, if you are relying on good works to save you, you are still lost in your sin. That's not a good place to be.
I have never said works get you saved. if i gave that impression i apolagize. My belief is good works is a sign your saved. that is all for now. Jesus makes the rules not me. Jesus is the keeper of the law and the preacher of the law not me. im just a law abider.
I have never said works will get you saved
Not me
not me
not me please end the conspiracy.
Jesus said if a person does works in my name he will recieve eternal life. I did not say that Jesus did. I do not make the rules.
A PERSON WHO DOES GOOD WORKS IN JESUS NAME IS SAVED.
Perhaps a reread of the parable of the Talents of Gold may clear things up quite nicely. Our Father compares our faith to gold. With that in mind and knowing the talents represent the faith given us by our Master while He is away may help to settle things.
you know this prayer, I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope of his calling, what are the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints us (all christians are saints) and you will know the surpassing greatness of his power toward us who believe.
on several occasions Jesus spoke of people who have eyes to see, and ears to hear, and of others who did not.
He clearly wasnt referring to literal eyes and ears, as almost everyone to whom he was speaking had a functioning set of eyeballs and ear drums.
No he was speaking of the ability to see and hear spiritualy truth, spiritual reality, Just as our natural senses help us understand and navigate the natural world.
we have spiritual senses that do the same for us in the spiritual realm.
Paul who was a jew had this in mind when he wrote the prayer of the eyes of the heart in Ephesus.
Like a new born babys eyes contain all the power they will ever need, but they reveal verry little to the babys mind. Thats because the infants mindhasnt been trained. It doesnt know what to look or how tointerpret what it sees.
In a simalar way the eyes of the heart may be equally untrained and immature but those eyes exist all the same,and what there looking at is every bit as important as the big wide world around the bewildered newborn.
In the spirit there is a whole world in which joy peace healing provision and favor have allready been purchased for you, Youd know your name is written upon each gift if only you could see them.
That is precisely why paul prayed as he did in scripture passage above. He knew we nee to have our spiritual eyes illuminated, in order to clearly see all that God has made available to us in Christ. Pul says we need those illuminated eyes so we can know, the hope of his calling the riches of his glory of his inheritance in the saints , and the surpassing greatness of his power toward believers like us.
Ive had just about enough.. doing good works in the name of jesus is an expresion of your faith. Its also a sign your saved. thats is all.
No where and never will is say works will get you saved.
Faith, agift, without works is no faith at all. Only the faithful will pass through the Gate to Heaven.
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1 faith is a force
2 God is a force.
3 so are his believers
Explain what is ment by force.
1 Faith is power
2 God is power.
3 Gods believers have faith powerfull enough to beat the enemy.
No where does this faith comes from a mans power alone like you suggested that was what i was implying. that is all
There is power in faith, but faith is not power.
God has power; but God is not power.
The enemy is already beaten; some believers have both the understanding and faith necessary to draw on that truth.
Its seems there is a discrepancy here.There is power in faith, but faith is not power.
God has power; but God is not power.
The enemy is already beaten; some believers have both the understanding and faith necessary to draw on that truth.
What is faith ?
Does faith have rules ?
Is there a law to faith ?.