you assume that Pentecostals don't preach the need for Christ? LOL, I guess churches in Germany that were controlled by the Government and can't even speak out against sexual perversion like homosexuality but you have an issue with those who speak in tongues?
You sit in a church that is afraid, to tell the truth, and call homosexuality sin. I live in California no other State has done more to support this sinful sexual preference and even attacked the church YET we Pentecostals have stood against it. How about you?
you complain about the foolishness of those who roll around on the floor which we have said was wrong BUT your own church bow down to a sin God said was an abomination. Your church can't even use what is called conversion therapy.
I think you're trolling all Gifts of the Holy Spirit threads is because you are trying to get the satisfaction of attacking those you disagree with because you live and are in a compromised church. I will pray for you.
I know Aidan a bit. What you have just accused him of, is totally wrong. He is a Reformed believer in Christ, loves God and knows his Bible. He is far from compromised. I don't know his church, but I've seen a lot of compromised churches from so many denominations. From Catholic to Protestant to Pentecostal. And other churches in those denominations also can be very much working in the Spirit as the body of Christ.
I've seen too many churches who fight about power and authority, nepotism and sound doctrine. The only one I haven't seen it in is the Orthodox Church, because I have only been in one, and they were not speaking in English.
As for trolling gifts, I have no idea what you are talking about! Romans 12 is clear that all are given gifts.
"Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, in proportion to our faith; 7 if service, in our serving; the one who teaches, in his teaching; 8 the one who exhorts, in his exhortation; the one who contributes, in generosity; the one who leads, with zeal; the one who does acts of mercy, with cheerfulness." Romans 12:6-8
There are a couple of other lists of the gifts. Speaking in tongues is never said to be universal.
Some of my gifts are teaching and encouragement. I've also been told I have the gift of pastoring. That doesn't mean leading a church, but it does mean leading the people of God, and caring for them.
I think until you know someone, it is ridiculous to make these terrible sweeping generalizations about people you know nothing about. God has never commanded anyone in the NT to rail and push people to speak in tongues. If it is truly a gift of the Spirit, then allow God to change hearts in a nano-second - whether we are talking about salvation as in justification, or sanctification. I don't see any verses telling people they will be sanctified and be transformed by speaking in tongues. Interestingly, though, Romans 12:2, just above the passage I posted, does give the way to be sanctified.
"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect." Romans 12:2
I think I prefer to be transformed by the Word of God, with the Holy Spirit, than babbling in tongues. And as I have said, I spent 15 years in the Pentecostal mov't and didn't grow a bit in my spiritual walk with Christ. My Christian walk was thwarted by the teaching which exalted tongues, rather the Jesus Christ.
So berating and insulting fellow Christians. Let's face it, tongues was already fading before the Bible -New Testament was completed! There is no proof that it was a gift meant to last for years, let alone millennium.