"Aaron and his sons" - Who are "his sons"?

[pumpkinbread1567]

If Jesus is the holy ultimate replacement for Aaronic priesthood after the order of Melchizedek (as in book of Hebrews), then who are "his sons"? Should I understand that Jesus is our father? (Isaiah wrote "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.)

I'm just trying to figure out how the building of the tabernacle of Moses is fulfilled by Jesus Christ. And who does Moses represent by the way?

 

[Blik]

When scripture speaks of the sons of Aaron, in this case it is speaking literally of the sons who were birthed to him. Scripture is always accurate historically, but we must remember that all scripture is breathed by the Lord so it additionally should be read spiritually. In this way we learn about the duties of all high priests, and learn that Christ as our high priest is free of sin.

The tabernacle, the temple and the high priest is a shadow of what was to come and we need to study those shadows to better understand the reality as the shadow is fulfilled. Shadows never distort what they are a shadow of. As an example, the high priest took the sins of the people to the inner chamber where the ark of the covenant represented God the Father. The high priest was the only one allowed in that chamber. Christ as our high priest takes our sins to the Father for forgiveness.

We are now the temple that the earthly temple was the shadow of, and we invite God the Father to live in our inner chamber--in our heart. No one but the high priest was allowed into that chamber, as we are to do our best to keep our heart clean of sin.

I suggest you read Tom Bradford's commentary on the first five books of the bible as this commentary is careful to relate the old and new testament, and shows, verse by verse, how the shadows of the old testament were fulfilled in the new testament.

 

[Dino246]

The sons of Aaron (his direct physical male progeny) were Nadab, Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar (Exodus 6:23). They also include, more generally, all of his male descendants, who were the priests of the old covenant system.

 

[FlyingDove]

If Jesus is the holy ultimate replacement for Aaronic priesthood after the order of Melchizedek (as in book of Hebrews), then who are "his sons"? Should I understand that Jesus is our father? (Isaiah wrote "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.)

I'm just trying to figure out how the building of the tabernacle of Moses is fulfilled by Jesus Christ. And who does Moses represent by the way?

Father is a Title.

Jews refer to Abraham as their father
Lk 1:73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
(NOTE: Also see Jn 8:39,53, Rom 4:1,16,17,18,)

Jews refer to Jacob as their father
Jn 4:12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
(NOTE: Also see Rom 9:10)

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace

Each Capitalized name in Isa 9:6 is a TITLE. Each title represents a different attribute of the Son, that shall be given.

As our creator, Father, is an applicable title for Christ.

Christ is God our Creator Jn 1:3 & 10, Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6. He holds every TITLE mentioned above.

Moses is a foreshadow/type of Christ & Aaron is as well. Moses & Aaron are descendants of Levi as is Jesus.

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
(MY NOTE: Only God can be both root & offspring)

1 Tim 3:16 (A) Without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh.

 

[FlyingDove]

If Jesus is the holy ultimate replacement for Aaronic priesthood after the order of Melchizedek (as in book of Hebrews), then who are "his sons"? Should I understand that Jesus is our father? (Isaiah wrote "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.)

I'm just trying to figure out how the building of the tabernacle of Moses is fulfilled by Jesus Christ. And who does Moses represent by the way?

I misspoke in post #4 realized to late to edit. Under Jewish law, tribal affiliation is through the birth father only. Jesus, through is adoption by Joseph is from the tribe of Judah & not Levi as were Moses & Aaron, my apologies

 

[reneweddaybyday]

And who does Moses represent by the way?

Moses is a "type".

In one of Moses’ final speeches, he gave this messianic prophecy: “The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him” (Deuteronomy 18:15). The prophet whom Moses foretells bears these qualities: He will be raised up by God, He will come from among the Israelites, He will be like Moses, and He will be worthy of being heard and obeyed. The prophet who fulfills these words is Jesus Christ, the prophet like Moses.​

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On the banks of the Jordan River, the Jews questioned John the Baptist about who he was and why he was baptizing. Their question “Are you the Prophet?” (John 1:21) shows that they were looking for the fulfillment of Moses’ prophecy. John plainly informed them that he was not the Prophet but pointed them to the One who was: “Among you stands one you do not know. He is the one who comes after me, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie” (verses 26–27). John’s description of the Messiah as one “among you” recalls Moses’ prediction that God would raise up the Prophet “from among you” in Deuteronomy 18:15. The very next day, John specifically identifies Jesus as the One they were waiting for (John 1:29–31).​

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In his sermon at the temple, Peter affirms that Jesus is the prophet like Moses (Acts 3:22, quoting Deuteronomy 18:15). Stephen, addressing the Sanhedrin in Acts 7:37, also quotes Moses and applies the prophecy to Jesus Christ.​

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Jesus is like Moses in several ways. Moses was both a prophet and a lawgiver, and Jesus is, too. Jesus was widely recognized as a prophet who spoke the Word of God (Matthew 21:46), and He gave commandments for His followers to obey (John 13:34; 15:12, 17; Galatians 6:2). Both Moses and Jesus mediated a covenant between God and men—Moses the Old Covenant (Exodus 34:27; Acts 7:44), and Jesus the New (Luke 22:20; Hebrews 9:15). Both Moses and Jesus were born during perilous times, and both narrowly escaped a king bent on murdering babies (Exodus 1:22 and Matthew 2:16–18). Both Moses and Jesus had a connection to Egypt (Exodus 2:1–4 and Matthew 2:13–14). Moses was the (adopted) son of a king (Exodus 2:10), and Jesus is the Son of the Most High (Luke 1:32). Moses spent forty years as a shepherd (Exodus 3:1), and Jesus is the Good Shepherd (John 10:11, 14). Both Moses and Jesus were known for their meekness (Numbers 12:3 and Matthew 11:29).​

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Moses and Jesus were alike in that they both led God’s people out of captivity. With great power, Moses led the Israelites out of physical bondage and slavery in Egypt, and Jesus, with even greater power, led God’s elect out of spiritual bondage and slavery to sin. Moses stood before Pharaoh and said, “'Let my people go” (Exodus 5:1). Jesus came “to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and . . . to set the oppressed free” (Luke 4:18). “In Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life has set you free from the law of sin and death” (Romans 8:2).​

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Moses was also like Jesus in that he performed miracles—not all prophets did. Several of the miracles of Moses bear a resemblance to Jesus’ miracles, most notably the provision of bread in the wilderness (Exodus 16:35), which is comparable to Jesus’ feeding of the 5,000 (John 6:1–13). In fact, after Jesus multiplied the loaves and fishes, the people’s thoughts ran immediately to Moses’ prophecy: “After the people saw the sign Jesus performed, they began to say, ‘Surely this is the Prophet who is to come into the world’” (John 6:14).​

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Another way that Moses was like Jesus is that he held intimate conversations with God: “The LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend” (Exodus 33:11). Jesus also had a special relationship to God: “No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son” (Matthew 11:27); “The Father knows me and I know the Father” (John 10:15). When Moses stood in God’s presence, his face shone with a heavenly glory and had to be covered with a veil (Exodus 34:29–35), and this reminds us of Jesus’ transfiguration, when “His face shone like the sun” (Matthew 17:2).​

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Another important way that Moses was like Jesus is that he constantly interceded for his people. When the Israelites sinned, Moses was always standing by, ready to petition God on their behalf and plead for their forgiveness. After the blatant idolatry at the foot of Mt. Sinai involving the golden calf, Moses interceded twice for the people (Exodus 32:11–13, 30–32), and his intercession was needed at other times, too (e.g., Numbers 11:2; 12:13; 21:7). Moses’ intercession was temporary, but our Lord’s is everlasting. “If anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One” (1 John 2:1). Jesus is right now “at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us” (Romans 8:34). Jesus “always lives to intercede” for us (Hebrews 7:25).​

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Not only was Moses an intercessor for God’s people but, like Jesus, he was willing to die for them. In Exodus 32:32, Moses offers his life in exchange for sinners. “Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends,” Jesus said (John 15:13), and Jesus proved His love when He “laid down his life for us” (1 John 3:16; cf. John 10:15).​

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https://www.gotquestions.org/Moses-and-Jesus.html​

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[pumpkinbread1567]

When scripture speaks of the sons of Aaron, in this case it is speaking literally of the sons who were birthed to him. Scripture is always accurate historically, but we must remember that all scripture is breathed by the Lord so it additionally should be read spiritually. In this way we learn about the duties of all high priests, and learn that Christ as our high priest is free of sin.

The tabernacle, the temple and the high priest is a shadow of what was to come and we need to study those shadows to better understand the reality as the shadow is fulfilled. Shadows never distort what they are a shadow of. As an example, the high priest took the sins of the people to the inner chamber where the ark of the covenant represented God the Father. The high priest was the only one allowed in that chamber. Christ as our high priest takes our sins to the Father for forgiveness.

We are now the temple that the earthly temple was the shadow of, and we invite God the Father to live in our inner chamber--in our heart. No one but the high priest was allowed into that chamber, as we are to do our best to keep our heart clean of sin.

I suggest you read Tom Bradford's commentary on the first five books of the bible as this commentary is careful to relate the old and new testament, and shows, verse by verse, how the shadows of the old testament were fulfilled in the new testament.

Right. I mixed up Levites the priests and Aaron's sons. Sorry. And thanks! So I understand that the Levitical priesthood was now passed onto the ones who will be made priests in Jesus Christ, yes?

 

[pumpkinbread1567]

And should I understand that until the time of Jesus, the high priest was a son of Aaron? - So one of Sadducees?

 

[pumpkinbread1567]

Moses and Jesus were alike

Yeah. That's kind of where I got stuck.

So Moses is a type of Jesus, and Aaron also was a type of Jesus. Should I then understand that they both represented Jesus Christ? (In fulfilling of the Law.)

 

[reneweddaybyday]

Yeah. That's kind of where I got stuck.

So Moses is a type of Jesus, and Aaron also was a type of Jesus. Should I then understand that they both represented Jesus Christ? (In fulfilling of the Law.)

yep ... they are both "types" ... foreshadowings ... the tabernacle is a type of Jesus ... all the implements in the tabernacle are "types" of Jesus. Melchizedek is a type of Jesus. so interesting how God set that out in Scripture.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

If Jesus is the holy ultimate replacement for Aaronic priesthood after the order of Melchizedek (as in book of Hebrews), then who are "his sons"? Should I understand that Jesus is our father? (Isaiah wrote "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.)

I'm just trying to figure out how the building of the tabernacle of Moses is fulfilled by Jesus Christ. And who does Moses represent by the way?

the tabernacle that Moses directed them to build , was a pattern of the temple in heaven where God dwells

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“The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven:

his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭11:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬


it’s hard for many to acknowledge because we find out at the end and not the beginning , but heaven is a place with a holy city and a temple and people and a kingdom and angels and in the temple Gods throne

when he gave Moses all of those very detailed instructions like for the layout of the temple , or all Of the instruments like the candlestick of gold and censor of gold and altar of gold , how the ark was to be centered in the temple and hidden from everyone’s sight and Gods glory would appear above the ark upon the seat of mercy and give his words .

those were so specific and detailed because God was giving Moses an earthly pattern of the heavenly temple like a copy for the earth to start learning of Jesus in the forms of figures and prophetic patterns of sacrifice and atonement by blood .



“Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: ( the sons of Aaron the Levite’s the only priesthood of the law on earth )

Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things,

as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭8:1-2, 4-6‬ ‭

the earthly tabernacle was never really Gods temple it’s always been in heaven , the one on earth was a copy of the one we are in Hebrews and revelation . All the Old Testament is a figure of what was to come in Christ when Gods temple on earth became the heart of a believer through Christ

in the restoration there’s no need for a temple any longer after evil is set aside and seperated the temple is about mans sin , and the oriestly intercession for their sins and sacrifices of atonement . The shadows of Christ like the Passover or sabbath , day of atonement , priestly duties all Of those things were a pattern for earth and show all of the things Jesus accomplishes for us in the heavenly tabernacle he is the true high priest , but also the true apostle , also the lord and law giver, also the sacrifice of atonement , also our advocate and intercessor with the father , also the mediator of the new covenant Christ is truly our I AM

when he entered into Gods presence in the heavens he became our everything and the way himself to enter into his kingdom

Moses is really astonishingly a pattern for Jesus at so Many points moses had also told them in the law itself “God would raise a future prophet like him to speak the word to them “

but from Moses miraculous survival at birth , the nation also the wrong the children at the time they were born , escaping into Egypt for a time , the fourty days of fasting the fact that only Moses was allowed to approach God and enter into his presence and then told the people his words

many more but Moses life and calling is almost spooky in its patterning of Jesus when he appeared in the gospel . Like a mirror reflecting one another but one being exalted high above the o her being Gods only son and author of salvstion and the one in the true tabernacle in the heavenly Jerusalem

 

[pumpkinbread1567]

I misspoke in post #4 realized to late to edit. Under Jewish law, tribal affiliation is through the birth father only. Jesus, through is adoption by Joseph is from the tribe of Judah & not Levi as were Moses & Aaron, my apologies

Actually, I think Jesus can be, theologically but not from the Law, considered a son of Aaron because Jesus is the first-born of ALL creation.

 

[pumpkinbread1567]

“The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven:

I wouldn't say the tabernacle of Moses = the temple of God. The reason is that Moses, when he made the tabernacle, was in the wilderness still to reach the promised land. After, a temple was built by Solomon. If the process of moving from the tabernacle to the temple signified a flow of the prophecy, then they have to represent different things. (Yes. Of course there has to be a similarity between them. This is more of a talk on concepts.)

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I wouldn't say the tabernacle of Moses = the temple of God. The reason is that Moses, when he made the tabernacle, was in the wilderness still to reach the promised land. After, a temple was built by Solomon. If the process of moving from the tabernacle to the temple signified a flow of the prophecy, then they have to represent different things. (Yes. Of course there has to be a similarity between them. This is more of a talk on concepts.)

What do you mean they represent different things ? The law and prophets were witnessing e same things of Christ .

It’s about revelation , the instructions Moses received were veiled , the temple Solomon built was a bit more revealed and the one jesusnentered is the true one

they all represent the exact same things it’s that they slowly move from the shadows behind a veil , into the light of the candlestick so they are inderstood

Moses was given the instructions is the point , the mediator of the first covenant this being before Gods presence left them after they made the idol and he was enraged and determined to destroy them and Moses interceded he left the angel with them who would not pardon thier sins to ordain the law to
Moses

“Therefore now go, lead the people unto the place of which I have spoken unto thee: behold, mine Angel shall go before thee: nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them. And the Lord plagued the people, because they made the calf, which Aaron made.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭32:34-35‬ ‭

“Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.

But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭23:20-22‬ ‭

the law was only a copy every aspect of it a faint description of the same things to come but twisted because they broke it as God was writing the first commandments so he left his angel ( to represent his presence like the burning bush ) In charge the law is harsh because the angel was harsh and unforgiving and God left him in authority when they worshipped the calf and gave it his glory for delivering them

the copy given to Moses is less revealed and more veiled like a shadow seen from the other side of a veil the ark is Gods throne in the center , above the mercy seat is his glory behind the veil where no one can see but the high priest only once a year to drop The seven atonements of blood for himself and others in the law it’s a copy the Cherubim have two wings covering above the ark where Gods glory sits above the ark , then in prophecy 4 and revelation 6 everything was dark and hidden in the ot and it’s slowly revealed until you see the new things in revelation


This is only one point but it’s all like this it’s progressively unveiled in scripture one God but man couldn’t understand him in the dark son the earthly copy either in Moses day or here either way

“And the priests brought in the ark of the covenant of the Lord unto his place, into the oracle of the house, to the most holy place, even under the wings of the cherubims. For the cherubims spread forth their two wings over the place of the ark, and the cherubims covered the ark and the staves thereof above.”
‭‭1 Kings‬ ‭8:6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Then in ot prophecy is more revealed but still an incomplete view we see God moving into the heavens

“Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭1:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭4:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Moses received the instructions for the tabernacle , and Solomon copied Moses pattern from the law making the temple .
the place that’s important is the one that the ot was patterned after where Jesus entered in Which all was patterned after first Moses tabernacle thier temple
When God was there , then Solomon’s temple but now we’re being taught in the gospel of the real temple

“Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God. But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people: The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭9:6-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[FlyingDove]

Actually, I think Jesus can be, theologically but not from the Law, considered a son of Aaron because Jesus is the first-born of ALL creation.

Firstborn Does Not Mean Created, it speaks of preeminence.

Christ is preeminent is ALL things within our universe:

Creation: Jn 1:3 & 10, Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6

Redemption: Gal 3:13, Rev 5:9, Col 1:14, Rom3:24

Resurrection: Jn 11:25, Acts 4:33, 1Pet 1:3 & 3:21

Mediation: 1 Tim 2:5, Heb 8:6, 9:15, 12:24

Jugdement: Jn 5:22, Rom 2:16, 2 Tim 4:1

Scriptural help:

Col 1:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(MY NOTE: The Son of God is the "visible" image of the "invisible" God. 2ndly; "firstborn of all creation" "isn't claiming" Jesus is created. Ps 89:27 Refers to David as his "firstborn" king. Yet, Saul reigned as King before David)

6 By Christ "were all things created" that are in heaven & that are in earth, visible & invisible, whether they be thrones, dominions, principalities, or powers: "all things were created by him" & for him
(MY NOTE: Christ/Jesus created all things! Only God creates all things)

17 Christ is before all things & by him all things consist
(MY NOTE: Christ/Jesus created all things. And hold everything together. Only God can create & then hold, all things together)

18 Christ is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence
(MY NOTE: Jesus is referred to as being the "firstborn of the dead". Yet, many died before him. Firstborn of all creation is referring to the fact that Jesus has preeminence. First place in everything that HE brings into existence. To include here: The first Resurrected from the dead)

Strong's g4416 firstborn
4416 prōtótokos (from 4413 /prṓtos, "first, pre-eminent" and 5088 /tíktō, "bring forth") – properly, first in time (Mt 1:25; Lk 2:7); hence, pre-eminent (Col 1:15; Rev 1:5).

4416 /prōtótokos ("firstly") specifically refers to Christ as the first to experience glorification, i.e. at His resurrection (see Heb 12:23; Rev 1:5). For this (and countless other reasons) Jesus is "preeminent" (4416 /prōtótokos) – the unequivocal Sovereign over all creation (Col 1:16).
https://biblehub.com/greek/4416.htm

Dictionary help:

Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words: First-begotten, Firstborn

[ 1,,G4416, prototokos ]
firstborn" (from protos, "first," and tikto, "to beget"), is used of Christ as born of the Virgin Mary, Luke 2:7; further, in His relationship to the Father, expressing His priority to, and preeminence over, creation, not in the sense of being the "first" to be born. It is used occasionally of superiority of position in the OT; See Exodus 4:22; Deuteronomy 21:16-Deuteronomy 21:17, the prohibition being against the evil of assigning the privileged position of the "firstborn" to one born subsequently to the "first" child.

The five passages in the NT relating to Christ may be set forth chronologically thus:
(a) Colossians 1:15, where His eternal relationship with the Father is in view, and the clause means both that He was the "Firstborn" before all creation and that He Himself produced creation (the genitive case being objective, as Colossians 1:16 makes clear);
(b) Colossians 1:18; Revelation 1:5, in reference to His resurrection;
(c) Romans 8:29, His position in relationship to the church;
(d) Hebrews 1:6, RV, His Second Advent (the RV "when He again bringeth in," puts "again" in the right place, the contrast to His First Advent, at His birth, being implied); cp. Psalms 89:27. The word is used in the plural, in Hebrews 11:28, of the firstborn sons in the families of the Egyptians, and in Psalms 12:23, of the members of the Church.

Note: With
(a) cp. John 1:30, "He was before me," lit., "He was first (protos) of me," i.e., "in regard to me," expressing all that is involved in His preexistence and priority.
https://studybible.info/vines/First-begotten, Firstborn

FINALLY:

Micah 5:2 Oh Bethlehem, you are little to be among the clans of Judah; out of you shall One come forth for Me Who is to be Ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth have been from old, from everlasting.
(MY NOTE: Christ is from everlasting, no beginning & not created. Fleshly/born/incarnated in Bethlehem, from the Tribe of Judah [NOT LEVI] also known/called the Lion of the Tribe of Judah REV 5:5)

 

[pumpkinbread1567]

Firstborn Does Not Mean Created

When did I state firstborn = "created"? JWs think this passage means that Christ (the Word) was first to be created, and thus "firstborn of all creations," but it actually means he's born of all creation. Therefore, despite not having descended from Aaron, he can be considered a "son of Levi". That was my point.

 

[pumpkinbread1567]

What do you mean they represent different things ? The law and prophets were witnessing e same things of Christ .

Yes. different things if it has to do with a certain flow of time in the end time. I do believe both tabernacle and temple are fulfilled in Jesus Christ.

 

[Mem]

A priest after the order of Melchizedek, specifically speaks to a priesthood ordained from without a lineage of mother or father

 

[pumpkinbread1567]

@Pilgrimshope
So the reason why Moses had a tabernacle is that they were walking through the wilderness, and thus they could not have a temple in a fixed place but pitch a tent. If you have not known, there is supposed to be another "wandering in wilderness" period. This is from Rev 12 in which vision "the woman" flees into the wilderness wherein is a place God has prepared for her to be nourished for 1260 days. I believe this has a lot to do with the fact that Jesus is our passover lamb which was once made by Israel to escape Egypt. For me, the promised land is New Earth, and I think the whole process from Egypt to Judah was a shadow.

 

[FlyingDove]

When did I state firstborn = "created"? JWs think this passage means that Christ (the Word) was first to be created, and thus "firstborn of all creations," but it actually means he's born of all creation. Therefore, despite not having descended from Aaron, he can be considered a "son of Levi". That was my point.

I didn't see any other point in that part of your reply, my bad. We can agree to disagree on Jesus descending from Aaron. Peace.